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 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:16 am
In other words... I need help.
I have trouble making my Dad understand about Jesus.
He keep telling me that Jesus is only a Man.
I keep telling him some verses in the Bible that prove Jesus and God are one. Such as " I and my Father are one" and "Who have seen me has seen the Father" and the miracles and things that he did that ONLY GOD can do. Most of all, that is, Forgive sins.
I also have trouble in making him not FEEL so alone. I even collected Bible Promises just for him. I mean, Im searching for Bible Promises but I just landed on one, and that is the Bible Promises of - hopelessness. I read them all to dad and... it did do him some good but, still, he don't have enough trust on God.
He is also blaming a Muslim man... or that is a firnd of him, of not returning his money and kept thinking what to do just to make him pay. I mean, he plants anger in his heart'! He just won't forget those bad times and I keep telling him that leave all your burderns to Jesus christ ( and God) and he will be the one to act. He keep telling me that, we are living in the world of Evil, that, we can't just give up everything to god, that, we can;t just rely on God.
Also, he gets angry so easily. I don't know why. Maybe its the stress, but the thing that disturbs me the most is his faith. In short, he don't trust god at all. If he do, maybe a little.
He said ALL we need in this world is -- Money.
Would you even think of that?! Money!
Why? man don't live by bread alone!!
Please, brothers and sisters. I really need some advice right now and bible promises that I can hold on too. I'm just, of course, worried of him.
~ Thank you for reading and God Bless~!
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:36 am
Money makes the world go round; not faith. Your dad seems to have a good grip on reality. His bullshit radar probably starts going off when you start shoving the Bible down his throat, which is why he won't "Accept Jaysuz".
Maybe you're the reason he has anger problems. I would be pretty pissed off too if my daughter followed a fake religion.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:35 pm
xXBlueBomberXx Money makes the world go round; not faith. Your dad seems to have a good grip on reality. His bullshit radar probably starts going off when you start shoving the Bible down his throat, which is why he won't "Accept Jaysuz". Maybe you're the reason he has anger problems. I would be pretty pissed off too if my daughter followed a fake religion. For Your Information xXBlueBomberXx,
My Father is a CHRISTIAN. He just grew up in a life that is full of... Troubles and dangers. and we AGREE in our religion. My dad is a Christian, Mom is Catholic... ( I know, not a pair xd )
Plus, our religion is not fake.
10 Things I believe Money can't buy:
Here is how mankind tells money, quoting from the Book of Job: "Thus far shalt thou go, and no farther." Here are the ten things money can't buy.
1. Family and friends
The greenbacks won't bring you any closer to your family if you are far too busy earning them. Nor will they guarantee your family understands you at all. (Mummy's cooking is a sub-group in this 'things you can't buy anywhere' list.)
There are exceptions to this. You might just pay off irritating in-laws to stay out of your hair, or order a hit on them. But in the normal course...
With friends, it works the same way, only more so. If your wealth draws them, they aren't real. If they don't stay, or your life has no place for them, you are on your own. With real friends, you've almost got it made.
2. Home
Get married, start a family, have kids. Will they grow up into fine people? Have you got the hang of father/motherhood? Is your home really your castle, a cocoon of comfort? Or is it just a house with people in it? The card really stops here.
3. Happiness
Alright, cliched, but it gets truer as the years pass. There is always something missing whether you are on the beach at Algarve or adding the newest antique wood furniture to your collection. If you can't get at the root of it, everything you can get is merely a narcotic.
4. Peace
Here is the big one, ever since they started asking smart questions to beauty contestants. The small peace is inside your head and that is elusive enough to come by, for which you have antacids and Ketorol, which only push it away for another day. Also think world peace and other big matters. What if they nuke the city? Kidding.
5. Immortality
If you can make it for three decades on top of the Forbes list, that is a measure of fame. But to be truly immortal requires other things, other ways of striving. Ever wondered how some dirt-poor hardscrabble guys have instant recall value centuries afterwards? And literal immortality is yet several pages farther in human civilisation's sci-fi book. Best you can do is get a ticket on Sir Richard Branson's [Images] space taxi.
6. Respect
You can smirk at the poor ants down below on the street, but they will pull faces behind your back if you are the sort who is perpetually asking for it. Dignity is the most fragile of public possessions. And God help you if they know about the skeletons in your closet or that you were called Stinky as a kid. This is one asset you really need to work on all the time to earn...
7. Talent
Another cliched, misused, misunderstood word, like creativity, and maybe no one knows what it is anymore, but you are either born with it or not. No way you can get a bill of sale on this one. What you do with it is of course your business. History has been very frequently marked with astonishing examples of creativity outdoing... well, money and everything else. Possibly the best example is Lenoardo da Vinci and a certain portrait of a woman. He took 16 years to paint it, did not bother to name it, packed it with himself wherever he travelled in Europe, refused to sell it to kings and counts. It was ultimately sold by his assistant after he died. Someone down the line decided to call it the Mona Lisa.
At the other end of the example is Vincent Van Gogh. All that talent and he sold just one painting of the nearly thousand he made, struggling with poverty all along. Didn't make a difference either way: in 1990, his Portrait of Dr Gachet went under the hammer for a current equivalent of $ 136.1 million, making it the fourth most expensive painting ever sold.
8. Health
Sure healthcare costs being the way they are, you need all the money you can lay your hands on when it comes to facing the bills and pills and the doctor scaring you with a dozen different possible diseases you have never heard about. But, viewed sanely, a good efficient treatment is not that much of a substitute for a good healthy life. Isn't it better not to need healthcare in the first place?
9. Love
It matters, that little empty feeling when you are sitting with a Sauvignon Blanc (for choice) on your balcony on a Saturday evening and twenty sober thoughts in your head, and no one to tell them to. That feeling of intense loneliness can neither be bought off, papered over or told to keep quiet and leave the room. Someone says, "Money can't buy love, but with all the other things it can, I'll give love a miss." Your call. You still have the Sauvignon Blanc...
10. Character
In case it matters. It is a sneaky creature, goes by other strange names like virtue and righteousness and at one time, if we remember reading correctly, a certain generation used to call it "true wealth". We don't really know whether it is around in these times but if you are looking to have it, it has to come from within. Or some such thing...
Even if you say that Money can Buy LOVE, it cannot buy Long Lasting Relationships.
P.S I see bluebomber is back! why, you tried to stirrr up some trouble in the other guilds? XD
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:43 pm
you really need to lay off, christianity and Catholicism are not "fake religions" as you say they are very real and the majorty of the world has those such religions, but different sects. I am not christian or catholic, but at least I am smart enough to know they are real religions, and the girl needs help, she may not be coming at it like you would, but really. I'm keeping her dad in my prayers, (jewish ones XD) xXBlueBomberXx Money makes the world go round; not faith. Your dad seems to have a good grip on reality. His bullshit radar probably starts going off when you start shoving the Bible down his throat, which is why he won't "Accept Jaysuz". Maybe you're the reason he has anger problems. I would be pretty pissed off too if my daughter followed a fake religion.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:39 am
Mirana of Marmoreal you really need to lay off, christianity and Catholicism are not "fake religions" as you say they are very real and the majorty of the world has those such religions, but different sects. I am not christian or catholic, but at least I am smart enough to know they are real religions, and the girl needs help, she may not be coming at it like you would, but really. I'm keeping her dad in my prayers, (jewish ones XD) xXBlueBomberXx Money makes the world go round; not faith. Your dad seems to have a good grip on reality. His bullshit radar probably starts going off when you start shoving the Bible down his throat, which is why he won't "Accept Jaysuz". Maybe you're the reason he has anger problems. I would be pretty pissed off too if my daughter followed a fake religion.
Thanks Mirana! I appreciate it. heart heart
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:41 am
LoveComes-From-LittleDove In other words... I need help.
I have trouble making my Dad understand about Jesus.
He keep telling me that Jesus is only a Man.
I keep telling him some verses in the Bible that prove Jesus and God are one. Such as " I and my Father are one" and "Who have seen me has seen the Father" and the miracles and things that he did that ONLY GOD can do. Most of all, that is, Forgive sins.
I also have trouble in making him not FEEL so alone. I even collected Bible Promises just for him. I mean, Im searching for Bible Promises but I just landed on one, and that is the Bible Promises of - hopelessness. I read them all to dad and... it did do him some good but, still, he don't have enough trust on God.
He is also blaming a Muslim man... or that is a firnd of him, of not returning his money and kept thinking what to do just to make him pay. I mean, he plants anger in his heart'! He just won't forget those bad times and I keep telling him that leave all your burderns to Jesus christ ( and God) and he will be the one to act. He keep telling me that, we are living in the world of Evil, that, we can't just give up everything to god, that, we can;t just rely on God.
Also, he gets angry so easily. I don't know why. Maybe its the stress, but the thing that disturbs me the most is his faith. In short, he don't trust god at all. If he do, maybe a little.
He said ALL we need in this world is -- Money.
Would you even think of that?! Money!
Why? man don't live by bread alone!!
Please, brothers and sisters. I really need some advice right now and bible promises that I can hold on too. I'm just, of course, worried of him.
~ Thank you for reading and God Bless~! Little Dove you must ask the Holy Spirit to guide you and give the right words to say. Maybe you won't be the one that says the leading words,even so continue to pray for the Spirit to touch his soul. I will pray too as I'm sure others in the guild will.We will also pray that you continue to be strong in your faith.It is very hard sometimes, I know. All the people in my house claim to know The Lord but they keep spewing filth from their mouths everyday. They do good works and all but I get tired of hearing their filth. Please stay strong little Sister. Peace and Blessings heart biggrin heart
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:53 am
If you're reading Bible verses to him, be persistent and patient! I'll pray for you, but it usually takes a long time for an atheist to become Christian.
Trust is something someone has to build. It's not like you get it overnight. So pray, update us if anything happens, and don't be afraid of spreading the word of Christ around!
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:30 pm
LoveComes-From-LittleDove In other words... I need help.
I have trouble making my Dad understand about Jesus.
He keep telling me that Jesus is only a Man.
I keep telling him some verses in the Bible that prove Jesus and God are one. Such as " I and my Father are one" and "Who have seen me has seen the Father" and the miracles and things that he did that ONLY GOD can do. Most of all, that is, Forgive sins.
I also have trouble in making him not FEEL so alone. I even collected Bible Promises just for him. I mean, Im searching for Bible Promises but I just landed on one, and that is the Bible Promises of - hopelessness. I read them all to dad and... it did do him some good but, still, he don't have enough trust on God.
He is also blaming a Muslim man... or that is a firnd of him, of not returning his money and kept thinking what to do just to make him pay. I mean, he plants anger in his heart'! He just won't forget those bad times and I keep telling him that leave all your burderns to Jesus christ ( and God) and he will be the one to act. He keep telling me that, we are living in the world of Evil, that, we can't just give up everything to god, that, we can;t just rely on God.
Also, he gets angry so easily. I don't know why. Maybe its the stress, but the thing that disturbs me the most is his faith. In short, he don't trust god at all. If he do, maybe a little.
He said ALL we need in this world is -- Money.
Would you even think of that?! Money!
Why? man don't live by bread alone!!
Please, brothers and sisters. I really need some advice right now and bible promises that I can hold on too. I'm just, of course, worried of him.
~ Thank you for reading and God Bless~! Hey sister! First of, yes money is unfortunately needed in this world. But it is the love of money that brings the downfall to people. God knows what we need and that it takes money to get food, shelter, etc. But there is a differences between what we need and what we want. It sounds like your dad is under a lot of stress. And when people are stressed it is very difficult for them to let go and let GOD. It is a human trait to blame others. You mentioned that your dad is a Christian. Please keep in mind that only because you were raised in a Christian home, doesn't make you automatically a Christian. Since your father's action speak louder than anything, his relationship with Jesus is off the mark. Although leading a person to the Scripture is important, you need to remember what the person's circumstances are. Let's say, for someone who grew up Muslim, quoting Scripture doesn't help to understand the Greatness of our God. For now, the most powerful thing you can do, is praying for your dad and lift him up to God.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:54 pm
Thanks guys!
For the update, I told him about the the Rapture (second coming of Christ) and the Signs are coming an end... (hopefully it WILL come to an end). He listened intently when I talked about Jesus Christ and his Resurrection. He even asked questions about it! whee
But, I never insisted on the topic of Jesus being The Son of God because i have a strange feeling he still is Not ready for it.
But Im happy that its another little step for him to get to know Jesus more. As of the Christians, honestly, he is BORN a catholic but he NEVER really followed it. I don't know why but he said he had some Bible Lecture (or study) when he was young. and, besides, he KNOW how to pray! starting from "Heavenly Father" up to the end of "In Jesus name we/I pray, Amen" he even add a "Savior" in it which goes something like this "In Jesus name, our Savior... Amen"
and, I will stay strong in Faith... ( I have the habit of writing down my thoughts and prayers so, it helped )
That.. a, TOTALLY SURPRISE FOR ME.. o.O
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:37 pm
That's amazing!! Step by step, one by one, you'll get there!!
Great job, LoveComes-From-LittleDove!! When your dad is ready, you can tell him about the story about Jesus being God's Son, and so on....
But for now, you seem to be taking the right direction!
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:49 pm
xMasterMokuseix75 That's amazing!! Step by step, one by one, you'll get there!! Great job, LoveComes-From-LittleDove!! When your dad is ready, you can tell him about the story about Jesus being God's Son, and so on.... But for now, you seem to be taking the right direction!
biggrin Tnx for the Support! heart heart
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:07 pm
LoveComes-From-LittleDove xMasterMokuseix75 That's amazing!! Step by step, one by one, you'll get there!! Great job, LoveComes-From-LittleDove!! When your dad is ready, you can tell him about the story about Jesus being God's Son, and so on.... But for now, you seem to be taking the right direction!
biggrin Tnx for the Support! heart heart
Noo problem, sis!!! heart 3nodding @BlueBomber: So you're the infamous BlueBomber? I must say it's nice to meet you. You can get acquainted with all of us loving Christians in here, yes?
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:53 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:32 pm
xXBlueBomberXx Money makes the world go round; not faith. Your dad seems to have a good grip on reality. His bullshit radar probably starts going off when you start shoving the Bible down his throat, which is why he won't "Accept Jaysuz". Maybe you're the reason he has anger problems. I would be pretty pissed off too if my daughter followed a fake religion. Oh jeez, I had a good laugh when I read this one. So you think Christianity's fake, yet you joined a guild for Christians. Ohohoho man...someone people really are ridiculous.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:23 am
Ramen and Pocky xXBlueBomberXx Money makes the world go round; not faith. Your dad seems to have a good grip on reality. His bullshit radar probably starts going off when you start shoving the Bible down his throat, which is why he won't "Accept Jaysuz". Maybe you're the reason he has anger problems. I would be pretty pissed off too if my daughter followed a fake religion. Oh jeez, I had a good laugh when I read this one. So you think Christianity's fake, yet you joined a guild for Christians. Ohohoho man...someone people really are ridiculous. Yah.. I know.
But she is here in the guild of Christians so she can Convert Christians to Atheists...
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