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 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:46 am
i had a dream the other night where i was standing on a lake looking at the moon and the sun above me and i saw a women with golden hair walk up to me i couldn't tell you what she looked like and i couldn't tell you her name all i could say is that she was very beautiful. this isnt the only time ive seen her i saw her before in a dream when i was four. she made the true prediction that i would be a wiccan. anyway she came up to me and took my hand she said somthing like " chi you are not to fear everything will be fine the world you live in is full of hurt but love to you will find him chidodi you will" now my name is lizzie and ive been called that name before by her and it may sound odd but that name sounds right for me it feels like me.
i guess what im saying is what is going on in my freeky dreams they dont even feel like dreams.
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:22 pm
It sounds like something I would call a "journey" dream. You can astral project in your sleep and it seems as though this is when you do your journey work. Which I recommend for every Pagan. I always found that dream time is also your most vulnerable time, your defenses are down and it helps those who wish to speak to you to contact you through your dreams. It sounds like Chidodi is your other name, your spiritual or craft name. After all Lizzie is what your family named you not what you may wish to be called. I've been called by other names in dreams as well, but I won't say those names to just anyone.
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:23 pm
ok thank you very much smile
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:28 am
I'm not a drag queen....
I wouldn't be mentioning your magical name to people on the internet....A smart magician could use that against you if they wanted to.
Not that one is going to on here, just saying.
....but I play one on stage
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:55 am
A name is a name is a name. Loki is Trickster is Sky-Treader is Flame-hair is the Burden of Sigyn's Arms. Odinn is Helblindi is Ygg is Valfather is Vinr Lopts is One-Eye.
A name particularly given, a ritual name or spiritual title, is very special and important to the person, but it's a sad magician who can't cast a spell against a person without a very specific name. A name is a name. We all have many of them. If you know who you're dealing with, whatever name you use will be powerful. A smart magician could use "skullstostuds". It's the poor magician who has to depend on a ritual name.
I know many will disagree. But then I think a lot of magicians can't see the woods for the trees anyway.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:53 am
Sanguina Cruenta A smart magician could use "skullstostuds". It's the poor magician who has to depend on a ritual name. I know many will disagree. But then I think a lot of magicians can't see the woods for the trees anyway. I agree with you for the most part. When I use names in healing rituals, it's because it can focus the magic through sympathy, which would make me think that the connection to the name would change it's effectiveness.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:25 pm
Sanguina Cruenta A name is a name is a name. Loki is Trickster is Sky-Treader is Flame-hair is the Burden of Sigyn's Arms. Odinn is Helblindi is Ygg is Valfather is Vinr Lopts is One-Eye. A name particularly given, a ritual name or spiritual title, is very special and important to the person, but it's a sad magician who can't cast a spell against a person without a very specific name. A name is a name. We all have many of them. If you know who you're dealing with, whatever name you use will be powerful. A smart magician could use "skullstostuds". It's the poor magician who has to depend on a ritual name. I know many will disagree. But then I think a lot of magicians can't see the woods for the trees anyway. While this is true, I never said that one magician had to depend on a ritual name, merely that one could use it against another. Certainly one could use a screen name, but I feel it would be more focused to use a ritual name or even a personal name. But I will agree on that latter part, tis too true.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:10 pm
Sanguina Cruenta A name is a name is a name. Loki is Trickster is Sky-Treader is Flame-hair is the Burden of Sigyn's Arms. Odinn is Helblindi is Ygg is Valfather is Vinr Lopts is One-Eye. A name particularly given, a ritual name or spiritual title, is very special and important to the person, but it's a sad magician who can't cast a spell against a person without a very specific name. A name is a name. We all have many of them. If you know who you're dealing with, whatever name you use will be powerful. A smart magician could use "skullstostuds". It's the poor magician who has to depend on a ritual name. I know many will disagree. But then I think a lot of magicians can't see the woods for the trees anyway. Wow, I find it amazing that I come back from a long hiatus and I find myself agreeing with you quite often now Sanguina. While, like I said, I agree with you. Being, if I want to use a ritual against someone, I do not need their "ritual name" or even their real name. Anything that has a tie to the person and their "energy" would be enough. I think most people have the general idea that something that is more personal to a person gives you a stronger "link" and availability to that person, as it were. Probably the results of movies and stories... But, in a sense most people who are not well versed in certain things, that would be the only direct way of achieving their goal. But again, that is me just agreeing with what you have already said. But, in retrospect, I believe that if you are skilled enough and experienced enough in your practices, you should have the confidence to not be afraid to share any piece of information with people. If you are experienced enough... People shouldn't be able to effect you. I myself have no fear in telling anyone, online or otherwise my given name in any form, or in anything else.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:58 pm
l True Dragon l If you are experienced enough... People shouldn't be able to effect you. I myself have no fear in telling anyone, online or otherwise my given name in any form, or in anything else. That doesn't seem like a good idea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:04 pm
Esiris l True Dragon l If you are experienced enough... People shouldn't be able to effect you. I myself have no fear in telling anyone, online or otherwise my given name in any form, or in anything else. That doesn't seem like a good idea. Again, Like I said, if you are experienced enough in your practice, you should have the confidence that you can handle whatever people attempt to throw at you. I have a lot of enemies myself, and I laugh at them when they try and effect me to no results. I am good at what I do, I have no reason to worry =).
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:22 pm
l True Dragon l Esiris l True Dragon l If you are experienced enough... People shouldn't be able to effect you. I myself have no fear in telling anyone, online or otherwise my given name in any form, or in anything else. That doesn't seem like a good idea. Again, Like I said, if you are experienced enough in your practice, you should have the confidence that you can handle whatever people attempt to throw at you. I have a lot of enemies myself, and I laugh at them when they try and effect me to no results. I am good at what I do, I have no reason to worry =). All it takes is for someone to be better at what you do than you are. There is always someone better. But even then, giving out personal information to people online, when it doesn't take a curse but a tracking cookie and a bit of data for them to trace you strikes me as a bad idea all around. I guess I'm not the kind of person to tempt men or fate.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:09 am
There is always a bigger fish. Always attempt to be better, but never assume you are the best.
And the empty vessel makes the greatest sound. The more people brag about their power, the weaker they generally are.
I wouldn't share a ritual name because it is personal. I'm not going to go around telling people ritual names that are personal or sacred to me just to prove how powerful I am, because that would be obscene, ridiculous and very stupid.
I wouldn't make enemies, because I think it's a foolish person who goes out of their way to make enemies just to prove how powerful they are, when it's clearly a much more "powerful" and sensible act to simply make the effort to Get Along. Perhaps I read too much of Granny Weatherwax when I was a young witchling, but honestly. Develop some sense. Sense enough not to make enemies with empty-headed, weak little twits, and sense enough not to brag about whatever power you have. I mean no wonder you have enemies. Other empty vessels leap at the chance to cast spells at people who walk about saying how omg powerful they are. The brain in your head's your most powerful tool so develop one, along with some sense.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:11 am
Arcanist Angus While this is true, I never said that one magician had to depend on a ritual name, merely that one could use it against another. Certainly one could use a screen name, but I feel it would be more focused to use a ritual name or even a personal name. But I will agree on that latter part, tis too true. I tend to think that the name you most associate with a person is going to be the most powerful. If I was casting a spell to help someone on Gaia, I'd probably use their Gaia name even though I know their real name, because that's the name I most strongly associate with that person.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:26 am
Sanguina Cruenta Arcanist Angus While this is true, I never said that one magician had to depend on a ritual name, merely that one could use it against another. Certainly one could use a screen name, but I feel it would be more focused to use a ritual name or even a personal name. But I will agree on that latter part, tis too true. I tend to think that the name you most associate with a person is going to be the most powerful. If I was casting a spell to help someone on Gaia, I'd probably use their Gaia name even though I know their real name, because that's the name I most strongly associate with that person. I'm kind of like that- but instead I use the name they most associate with themselves.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:32 pm
Esiris All it takes is for someone to be better at what you do than you are. There is always someone better. But even then, giving out personal information to people online, when it doesn't take a curse but a tracking cookie and a bit of data for them to trace you strikes me as a bad idea all around. I guess I'm not the kind of person to tempt men or fate. I never said anything about being the best, I said, have confidence in yourself. If something happens to you, deal with it. But, i find it a pointless feat to run around being terrified of what could happen to you. That is not a way to live life. Besides, Giving out your first and last name or your path name is not going to get you tracked. Sorry, If I look up my first and last name on google, I find numerous people with the same name. And, even if they did find my address. So what? The only important piece of information as far as that goes is your social security number. If people want to take your identity, there are ways to do it without you willfully giving a name. Believe me. If they want it, they will take it regardless. Sanguina Cruenta There is always a bigger fish. Always attempt to be better, but never assume you are the best. Again, why are you assuming I am saying I am the best. Or, to believe you are the best. I said have confidence in your abilities and not act like a scared little closet pagan. Quote: And the empty vessel makes the greatest sound. The more people brag about their power, the weaker they generally are. Who is bragging? I am making a point. That I do not care because I am confident enough in my abilities. That doesnt say how "powerful" or "weak" I am. It just says that I believe in my self and what I know and faith in the protection of my deities. Quote: I wouldn't share a ritual name because it is personal. I'm not going to go around telling people ritual names that are personal or sacred to me just to prove how powerful I am, because that would be obscene, ridiculous and very stupid. To you a ritual name is personal. Not everyone is the same way. Sorry Sanguina, but not everyone is just like you. In my path your given name (which you receive by the deities during a trance) is a gift. It is something that is given to you specifically and we are proud of it. It is not personal. It is sacred. But, just because it is sacred doesn't mean it is secret. We are proud of the name we receive and because it is not personal, it is something we have no problem saying. Quote: I wouldn't make enemies, because I think it's a foolish person who goes out of their way to make enemies just to prove how powerful they are, when it's clearly a much more "powerful" and sensible act to simply make the effort to Get Along. It is also more powerful to see that there are other beliefs other than your own and that they may not be the traditional wiccan practices you may be accustomed to. If you want to make accusations and assumptions I will do the same thing. Sorry, I do not go around making enemies. But, people have enemies. Confidence brings jealousy. Much like that you are expressing right now. Again, it isn't about "power" that you seem so obsessed about. It's about being confident in your own self worth and abilities. I never said "I am teh all mighty powerful god of azerath and will smite all enemies in my pathz!". You said that. Not me. Quote: Perhaps I read too much of Granny Weatherwax when I was a young witchling, but honestly. Develop some sense. Sense enough not to make enemies with empty-headed, weak little twits, and sense enough not to brag about whatever power you have. About developing sense.... just remember... when you point your finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing right back at you. And, again, no one here (nope not even me) is bragging about my "power" except you. Quote: I mean no wonder you have enemies. Other empty vessels leap at the chance to cast spells at people who walk about saying how omg powerful they are. lol...once again, the only one saying how powerful I am is you. So what does that say? Quote: The brain in your head's your most powerful tool so develop one, along with some sense. After reading this entire thing, I could say the same about you.
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