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Man-Hungry Conversationalist
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:51 am
Hello, guild, this topic is likely to be controversial, and rightfully so. Faith, or lack of, is a strong topic, and one universally important to individuals. But unlike my normal habit, this isn't a discussion of religions and comparison and contrasting, but a simple discussion of how we, those of the creative bend, are affecting by our faith, or lack there of.
Simply put: Have you ever noticed themes running deep in your stories that whisper of your faith? For those without a faith or belief, do you think it affects your writing? Would you be open to discussing this faith and how you think it's affected you?
For me, I absolutely believe my faith affects my writing. Very little of my work has something that wouldn't be deemed 'supernatural' in some way or another. Many of my main characters also hold beliefs I hold myself, including universal human freedom. My villains often embody the things I personally revile.
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:04 am
I think I'd be referred to as an atheist but at the moment I'm writing about a family's belief in the goddess of the craft and the devil etc...
I suppose in some ways your beliefs may shape your characters but also your empathy. As long as you have the ability to understand how someone will react with whatever belief then it doesn't matter if you personally believe it or not.
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:37 am
I think it really reflects in one of the stories I'm still in the idea stage of. I'm agnostic, so I'm open to all beliefs and try not to judge. I have so many characters of different religions. The main character, Angel, is an atheist. Her guardian was into New Age and Neopagan beliefs, and so is Angel's daughter. Angel's biological parents are from a planet that has prophecies and stuff like that.
The antagonistic is an atheist, like Angel. He's depicted as the typical media atheist, who lost faith in God when he lost faith in man. His parent's had been killed, his home world destroyed, ect. Angel, on the other hand, is a much better icon for atheist. She just doesn't believe. Nothing horrible happened to make her come to this conclusion. She just sees religion as foolish and sees better things for her time. After her guardian dies she changes a bit. She tries to appreciate life, because it's the only one we'll ever get.
I've also got two Christians. Brody is a coworker of Angel. He's an all around decent guy. His wife is a shrew though. So we've got our good Christian and our bad Christian, like how we had a good Atheist and our bad Atheist.
I also had religion a topic of my first novel. It was a romance where the heroine was already married to a Duke. He was an awful man that was having an affair with her sister. Well the heroine, Anastasia, was very religions. She freaked out when she had a sex dream about the knight, Sir Maxwell. Maxwell was an agnostic, questioning God throughout the whole book. Anyway, the problem with Anastasia was she was so religious that she would never commit adultery, like she was suppose to. It took her husband sentencing her to death to get her to admit her love for Maxwell and break her vows. But in the end she decides God would rather her be with Maxwell, a kind angel sent from the Heavens to rescue her.
So yes, I use religion. I see my characters as real people, and real people have these crazy beliefs that tells them to do crazy things. Wars are caused over religion. How can you leave something so powerful out of your story? But I try to use all religions and attempt to stay true to them, out of respect.
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:45 am
It's strange. I'm agnostic but at least one story (well, set of short stories) had a theme of falling from grace and gaining redemption. Also I have a habit of damning god even though I don't know or care if he/she/it exists or not. It shows in my writing, too. (Speech-wise, that is. I say "goddammit" and so do they.) Themes are about it, though. I don't have religious characters unless I design one to be religious. It's not a big part of my life, I don't think about it often, and so I don't find it a necessary component of a character. For instance, my latest story has a prominent cult--but only because I thought it would be interesting to have a group of people worshipping a clock. Quote: For me, I absolutely believe my faith affects my writing. Very little of my work has something that wouldn't be deemed 'supernatural' in some way or another. Many of my main characters also hold beliefs I hold myself, including universal human freedom. My villains often embody the things I personally revile. As for this... A lot of my stories have things that are fantastic if not outright supernatural. Most people's characters tend to hold the same views that the author does--it's how we got things like "mouthpiece characters" and stuff. Same with villains. I don't see how any of those things have anything to do with faith or lack thereof, since both you and I share them and one of us is faithful and one of us isn't.
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:49 am
I'm not sure. My writing speaks a lot of life, youth, aging, and sometimes death. I'm Catholic, so I don't know how that influences things...
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:15 am
Before anything religious, I believe in myself. Fanatically and absolutely. That comes out with my characters a great deal; in several of my longer projects, the characters have their 'inner journey of discovery' towards liking themselves and becoming confident.
Then we hit religion. I tend to have elements of religion and religious mythology in my writing. Many, many of my characters are religiously apathetic despite the fact that I'm not. The character most heavily abused by my personal views is the setting.
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All Purpose Muling Device
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:00 pm
I quite enjoy religious characters, especially passively religious characters (lazy-a** Catholicism is what I know best) -- probably what I write the most if only because they default to religious but then it hardly ever comes up. At times, there are also really devout ones who are having problems reconciling what they must do with what they believe they cannot ever do. And then there are the ones who have focused themselves so fully on one aspect of their faith (say, honor thy mother and thy father) that they'll completely gloss over other things (thou shalt not kill).
I have a bias toward Catholics in historical fiction. In anything modern or fantasy, it varies. With modern, religious themes tend not to come up. In fantasy, I think I generally tend to model religions as either Catholic-like, nature-based, or both. And I actually really like the combination of them.
Either way, though, none of it is as a soapbox for my personal beliefs or opinions on religions, though I can see how some might think otherwise ... but if they read enough of what I write, I would seem to contradict myself enough that I think that would be covered. I try to treat everything fairly, though the historical Catholic characters sometimes have nothing but awful, awful things to say about those upstart Protestants.
One thing I do particularly enjoy is addressing the fact that there are always ulterior motives to things like religious wars.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:43 pm
I'm not religious anymore and in the time that I was religious I doubt that it had anything to do with my writing. It never really had any effect. Although, there was a time that I was Wiccan and I was once inspired to write about this society of Wiccans. It was this silly idea where a woman fell in love with someone outside of the society and had a child with him, ended up dying during child birth and the daughter lived with the father instead of the mother's relatives within the society... That was the only time that religion ever really had any influence in my writing.
Nowadays, it's the lack of religious conviction that plays a part in my writing. According to one of my friends I'm "anti-religious" and because of that, none of the characters in my stories are religious. They can be spiritual, but never religious. In all of my stories and books I manage to slip in a minor message that you don't need religion. At all. It's all about yourself, not some being and doctrine. Although, maybe someday I'll make a religious character using that same message, dunno.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:16 am
For some people maybe, but for me when I write I don't really think about religion. I think why I don't think about it is I don't want it to affect how my stories come out, but a the same time I try to set a bit of my personality into the charcters as well. I don't want my stories to be about what my religion is, but about the characters on the inside, since I want them to be themselves and not me.
But on the other hand it depends on what you're writing about also when your religion affects how you write. It probably doens't affect me as much since I like to write alot of fiction and fantasy in my writing.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:42 am
redheadsrule13 It probably doens't affect me as much since I like to write alot of fiction and fantasy in my writing. It's the number of people who treat fantasy as an excuse to avoid tough issues that makes the genre as badly regarded as it is. I write speculative fiction myself, and attempt to ask or answer a question somehow.
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Man-Hungry Conversationalist
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All Purpose Muling Device
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:26 am
redheadsrule13 But on the other hand it depends on what you're writing about also when your religion affects how you write. It probably doens't affect me as much since I like to write alot of fiction and fantasy in my writing. It does affect you. That you can't actually see it is another matter. Fantasy doesn't mean you just magically avoid things like this. I write fantasy, too, and these things always come up. You can have intentionally work on avoiding it, and I don't honestly think anyone really succeeds in that. Not fully.
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:08 am
redheadsrule13 It probably doens't affect me as much since I like to write alot of fiction and fantasy in my writing. Just because they're not conventional religions, doesn't mean it's not religion. Take stargate (sci-fi) for example - faith is in there all the time! It doesn't sound preachy, it's just part of the storyline.
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:00 pm
I'm not religious, but a lot of my characters are. Religion and culture interest me a lot, so I would have probably researched other faiths on my own time anyway, but especially because of my writing projects, I've been researching a lot of Islam lately in particular.
Personally, though, I was raised Jewish, but now I'm an atheistic-spiritualist. I don't believe in a "God" so to speak, but I do think there are unconscious forces out there that we don't yet fully understand. In general, I like Eastern ideas like Karma and Reincarnation. I'm a cynic of Western views as a whole, and I think that shows in my writing. At the same time, I have a respect for all peaceful cultures, but still, my inner cynic wheedles its way into a lot of what I write.
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