| Do you want our guild to be open or private? |
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 Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:21 am
EDIT:
Hello fellow members!
We recently held a poll to find out how many members wanted the guild to remain open and how many wanted it to become private.
There were only 12 votes:
9 to keep it open
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3 to make it private.
I do realize that a lot of this is because very few of you even saw the announcement.
However we do have 503 members now and 12 votes can not tell us very much. I will attempt to send out another annoucement in a few weeks to see if we can get a better turnout.
Thank you to all of you who voted.
Blessings to you all.
Felina75 ~Open or Private~
For some reason, I can't make an announcement in the guild right now. Must be a Gaia glitch. The title says it all. We have members who want to keep the guild open and some who want to make it private.
I believe that it would be better to keep it open for those who are not believers to find out more about Christianity. However, it does make Christians feel beat down and tired when there are so many rude remarks made toward our Father. We get that everywhere, and we don't need it here in our guild.
Therefore this poll will be officially open for 2 weeks. On October 10, 2010 the poll will be closed and hopefully by then I can make an announcement letting everyone know what the results were.
I am putting it to you, our fellow members and visitors. What ever you decide on the matter, will make it so.
Any rude remarks made on this thread will be deleted and you will be ignored, and please no heavy debates. The poll will speak for its self. NO amount of bickering will change the results.
I hope this will make our guild more enjoyable and more fun. Thank you.
Felina75
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:29 am
I think it needs to be an open forum. We have a duty to God to teach Him to any and all. I know it's hard, and can be discouraging, but we have to carry on nonetheless.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:37 am
I say keep open. How will atheists or struggling Christians ever come to Him if we block them out?
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:50 am
Ideally, you should keep it open so that it could be more inviting to others and people from the outside would be more inclined to post. However, this would mean that you'd need to relinquish the right to ban people who post things that would be considered offensive or hurtful to the members, causing a stressful and unpleasant atmosphere for those that are actually a part of the guild. You'd also be subjecting the members to further verbal abuse by the trolls and flamers that stop by.
Just some things you should consider.
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:51 pm
i think it should be open becuz we are suppose to spread the word about god and help people repent but people won't find out about god and how happy they can be and live a wonderful life in heaven but tha won't happen for them if we kepp the guild private so think about it becuz it should still be open
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:21 pm
it should be kept open and just moderated better than it has been in the past.
offensive posts made by Christ-haters should be edited and or deleted on a more timely manner.
razz
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:54 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:31 am
If any rude person decides to say something rude there are like you said
503 members
So I think we could come up with a good way to keep those rude people from doin anything.
And maybe we could even save those rude people
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:44 am
I am getting sick and tired of people not realizing what private means for a guild.....
it doesn't mean that no one can join *far from it* if this guild was private it would save many problems.
1 we have control over punishments and we can take action if someone is being rude or worse.
2 it would mainly stop the influx of people who are just going to cause problems on here and troll
3 we could create rules and they would have to follow them *like keeping the ToS and keeping the peace etc...*
now if this were to remain public
I want you to give you a example: say if you had a christian child of the age of 11 on here and they took what others said to heart, and there was a rude and bullying person on this guild and they kept harassing this 11 year old all the time on here and that child committed suicide, how would you stop this bullying person from making that happen?........ you can't and you would regret this would happen from the bottom of your heart and it would have been your fault that this happened cause you did *not* take action......
do you see what I am getting at
just cause this guild is private doesn't mean that no one can join but far from it anyone can join it's just that we can kick them out if it gets to far out of hand
in other words we have control if this where private........
if this remains public
we will have no control whatsoever of the actions that go on here even if that includes people committing suicide from cyber bullying *which is a very real danger*
so you see you just can't *save* a person that is cyber bullying without any dire situations from happening it is best that this should be private not public
and it is for those reason that I am leaving
read my announcement and maybe you can keep me to stay...... but I think not
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:11 am
Akira Wolfguard I am getting sick and tired of people not realizing what private means for a guild..... it doesn't mean that no one can join *far from it* if this guild was private it would save many problems. 1 we have control over punishments and we can take action if someone is being rude or worse. 2 it would mainly stop the influx of people who are just going to cause problems on here and troll 3 we could create rules and they would have to follow them *like keeping the ToS and keeping the peace etc...* now if this were to remain public I want you to give you a example: say if you had a christian child of the age of 11 on here and they took what others said to heart, and there was a rude and bullying person on this guild and they kept harassing this 11 year old all the time on here and that child committed suicide, how would you stop this bullying person from making that happen?........ you can't and you would regret this would happen from the bottom of your heart and it would have been your fault that this happened cause you did *not* take action...... do you see what I am getting at just cause this guild is private doesn't mean that no one can join but far from it anyone can join it's just that we can kick them out if it gets to far out of hand in other words we have control if this where private........ if this remains public we will have no control whatsoever of the actions that go on here even if that includes people committing suicide from cyber bullying *which is a very real danger* so you see you just can't *save* a person that is cyber bullying without any dire situations from happening it is best that this should be private not public and it is for those reason that I am leaving read my announcement and maybe you can keep me to stay...... but I think not please stop. do not try to upset us with posting such an extreme example as that of making us feel responsible for a childs death. I for one watch this guild very closely. If i ever witnessed such bullying being done to anyone of any age i feel i have the wisdom and experience to deflect such harassment. Also,posts can be altered and deleted if they contain harrassment and bullying. thought more about this and want to add more razz I think the idea of keeping this Guild open to the public should inspire us to take more active roles in this guild as part of our Christian community. The reason young people are committing suicide, and the numbers are higher among females rather than males, is a break down in their social and supportive relationships. It is my goal as a Christian to become a supportive part of other Christians lives and people in general that i feel God wants me to associate with and who i feel safe relating to. Christian Churches are open for the public to come in and observe Christians and be shown Christ-like love and hear truth and learn about the God of the Bible. i dont see any reason for this guild to be made private based on your paranoia of our being somehow responsible for adolescent suicide.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:42 am
Akira makes a good point. While his example was extreme, he has a point when he says any harassment and suffering caused by trolls and flamers will be the responsibility of the guild. And I don't mean to offend, but the crew wasn't that successful the last time a troll came in the guild. It's the responsibility of the crew to protect the members of the guild. But if a troll runs rampant, who knows how much damage they could cause not only to the guild (which is supposed to be a sanctuary for the members and a place where they can build their faith) but also to the members who are on their spiritual walks with Christ.
Putting the guild on private doesn't mean non-Christians are suddenly not allowed to join. If they honestly wish to learn more about God, they can take the extra two seconds it takes to click the "join" button. But keeping the guild open means that the crew has absolutely little to no control over what happens with the trolls.
There's a reason why activity went down when the last troll came around. There are reasons why Christian guilds don't survive attacks from others. There are reasons why Christians choose to not frequent a guild just because it was taken over by a troll. I know many people want to keep the guild open so they can try to show trolls and flamers the light of Christ. But nothing came from the last troll attack. Absolutely nothing. If anything, the troll was even more adamant about their hatred towards Christians and the guild suffered spiritually and emotionally because of that troll. I understand that the leaders might be strong enough in their faith to not be swayed by such attacks, but what about the members? Did they not experience some sort of emotional turmoil because their sanctuary was invaded by someone and their faith was under attack? I know I didn't want to come around while that troll was here and I'm sure the same could be said for others.
People get tired - spiritually tired - of being under constant attack. Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I thought this guild was established to give the members a sense of security and peace when building their faith. It's not about turning others away, but I really don't think it takes too much to have someone click a join button.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:34 pm
I am in agreement with Wishboxx and thankyou for seeing what I'm trying to get at * I am trying to at least give out help befoer I leave*
if you guys still are blinded by false believe that private means no one can join then I'm just going to head bang on my desk at your ignorance.
and as Wish said...... that last troll was not dealt with properly and if I didn't know any better some of you guys tried to make friends with the troll....... what if she had gone to the extreme in her trolling methods? what then? you wouldn't be able to make the troll stop at all...... and I would rather wash my hands or dust my feet *as the bible states* from this and just boot her from the guild which would have caused less problems then more.
also the bible states feed my sheep...... so what are you going to feed them with trolls and bullies...... or with security and peace? I rather the latter
also Sarlo........ if you are believing that my example is extreme........ then you have spent far to much time in the virtual world.... I gave you a real life example of what could happen if you can't accept that then you are very much blind to reality, also if you are crew or being specific vice captain then you are not protecting the flock from the wolves in sheep's clothing which I totally dislike in a person for not protecting the flock.
I will just pray for you Sarlo and explain to God you know not what you do AMEN.
also I AM NOT PARANOID and DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE ME for you HAVE NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER.
you are the most ignorant naive and *not trying to offend you and if I have then it's true* stupid Christian I have ever met if you can't take what I say seriously then your either very naive or very stupid..... either one suites you just fine.
and as I like to say this is why you would want to have a guild private because you can't even boot me from here which is good for me and bad to you.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:21 pm
Akira Wolfguard I am in agreement with Wishboxx and thankyou for seeing what I'm trying to get at * I am trying to at least give out help befoer I leave* if you guys still are blinded by false believe that private means no one can join then I'm just going to head bang on my desk at your ignorance. and as Wish said...... that last troll was not dealt with properly and if I didn't know any better some of you guys tried to make friends with the troll....... what if she had gone to the extreme in her trolling methods? what then? you wouldn't be able to make the troll stop at all...... and I would rather wash my hands or dust my feet *as the bible states* from this and just boot her from the guild which would have caused less problems then more. also the bible states feed my sheep...... so what are you going to feed them with trolls and bullies...... or with security and peace? I rather the latter also Sarlo........ if you are believing that my example is extreme........ then you have spent far to much time in the virtual world.... I gave you a real life example of what could happen if you can't accept that then you are very much blind to reality, also if you are crew or being specific vice captain then you are not protecting the flock from the wolves in sheep's clothing which I totally dislike in a person for not protecting the flock. I will just pray for you Sarlo and explain to God you know not what you do AMEN. also I AM NOT PARANOID and DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE ME for you HAVE NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER. you are the most ignorant naive and *not trying to offend you and if I have then it's true* stupid Christian I have ever met if you can't take what I say seriously then your either very naive or very stupid..... either one suites you just fine. and as I like to say this is why you would want to have a guild private because you can't even boot me from here which is good for me and bad to you. i apologize for offending you. I will change the wording from "paranoia" to "worry". Based on your worry of the extreme issue of Child Suicide brought on by cyberbullying (there have been 4 cases of suicide as a direct result of cyberbulling in the USA) i still do not feel this Guild should be set to private. Again, my apologies for making you feel wrongfully judged.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:38 pm
well thank you for apologizing...... and I'm sorry if I appear to be..... short...... but hey you can't blame a guy from trying as of right now I'm in a private guild and it feels a lot better cause you can keep track of everyone I even set my own guild on private
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:43 pm
~I completely understand what you both are talking about. I agree with you. Unfortunately though, we have non-believers who are not members that come into the guild looking for answers that they can't find anywhere else. They themselves would never join a Christian Guild. The only way that they would even come and chat with us is through an open guild.
~I absolutely hate reading profanities about my Lord, but He was called many things as He walked to His own crucifiction. He was spit upon, kicked and cursed by his own people. If He can take that much abuse and still die for us, then I think that we need to gerd ourselves and be strong in Him, because no matter what others do to us, we still have victory.
~Ask yourselves why these people who come in here only to abuse us get so angry. It hurts, yes, but it is still more proof that God is moving in our guild. Perhaps it is a test. We are the ones that will go before the Lord and be judged for the lost sheep that we did not go out and find. Here they come to us.
~I will end with this tidbit. The main "person" and we all know who that is, has several Bibles in her own home. Both parents are Christians. She is only rebeling. She would claim to be much more, but she is rebeling from God. I pray that she will come back to Him, but it is her choice.
~I hope that I will be able to send out an annoucement soon, so this discusion can be truly closed. If our members choose to make the guild private then we will change it. The poll will not lie.
~God bless you all and keep you all safe.
Felina75
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