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 Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:10 pm
I was recently on a totally random webpage for news and there was this totally random thing about nudists. It was actually quite interesting.
Now, what does eveyone else think of nudism? Is being totally in the nude natural, or does it stink of sin?
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:09 pm
i don't see it as sinful.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:04 pm
I don't see how it could be sinful.
The human body is a natural thing. It only becomes sexual when you choose to look at it in a sexual manner.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:10 pm
Nudity, modesty, indecency, etc. etc. etc.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:50 pm
its not realy a sin but it is gross oh and dont run naked in the street you migth fall and skin your you know what
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:54 pm
xD I do believe the biggest problem would be the lack of pockets.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:57 pm
lenon01 xD I do believe the biggest problem would be the lack of pockets. good point
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:16 pm
I asked my dad the same thing a few weeks ago, according to him its sick and a perversion of everything. But thats what he feels about every view that isnt his.
I personally think they are awesome how they get over that whole "AHH NO CLOTHES?!?" thing.
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:14 pm
Well. As long as they stay in their nudist colonies or beaches, then I'm ok. It would be fun to join them but I'd be scared of scarring my memories with images of male parts. talk2hand
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:08 pm
OK, lets pretend your a christian; and lets pretend your not going to lie.
Seeing naked peeps of the same gender is going to be awkward, seeing naked peeps of the opposite gender is going to invoke some sort of response. Now, yes you can control your mind to a certain extent but there inlies the tiny seed that is prone to grow once something is seen as desireable. It is put into soil by the thoughts of I'm Christian I'll just ask for forgiveness, I'm mature enough to know that's a person, I didn't look lustfully, etc. Yet somewhere in your comfortability you justify looking upon nude bodies regularly... This will branch into 2 different scenarios.
1. You'll be so comfortable with nudity, it will be nothing special to see your significant other uncovered on your honeymoon(if you plan on purity anyway), more over you might be even dissatisfied with what you see because you've seen better.
How's that for jacked up, you won't like that feeling.
2. You won't tell your self in your mind that you really like what you see but as you stare you say "this is perfectly normal, i'm not looking lustfully..." Then why are you still looking..? ...and your a snowball at the top of the hill... there you go.
Comon people, if your alive and human your not immune to lust. Especially christians, we probably have it harder because we know better, supposedly.
Remember when the prostitute was caught in the act of adultery and brought to Jesus? If they caught her in the act and brought her out, she probably didn't have any clothes on, but what did Jesus do? He looked down and drew in the dirt. before saying "Let he who has not sinned be the first to cast a stone."
Someone explained that to me and i was like woah... that's tight.
so decide wisely my beloved family, If you have any questions pm me.
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:52 pm
Do I believe that being a nudist in and of itself is a sin... no
Do I believe if the fall hadn't happened we would still be nude...yes
HOWEVER
Do I believe that causing your brother to stumble into sin is a sin...yes
Do I believe sexual immorality is a sin...yes
Do I believe that being a nudist has the ability to cause your brother to stumble into the sin of sexual immorality... yes
If I believe that causing my brother to sin is in fact a sin and that by being a nudist I could in fact cause my brother to stumble into the sin of sexually immorality then is being a nudist a sin... yes
Why? Because the Bible says
Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that we all possess knowledge.[a] Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. 2The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know. 3But the man who loves God is known by God.
4So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one. 5For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"), 6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
7But not everyone knows this. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat such food they think of it as having been sacrificed to an idol, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. 8But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.
9Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? 11So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.
1 Corinthians 8:1-12 (New International Version)
I think that sums up my argument
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:29 pm
Friar Thomas Do I believe that being a nudist in and of itself is a sin... no Do I believe if the fall hadn't happened we would still be nude...yes HOWEVER Do I believe that causing your brother to stumble into sin is a sin...yes Do I believe sexual immorality is a sin...yes Do I believe that being a nudist has the ability to cause your brother to stumble into the sin of sexual immorality... yes If I believe that causing my brother to sin is in fact a sin and that by being a nudist I could in fact cause my brother to stumble into the sin of sexually immorality then is being a nudist a sin... yes That's like telling me that because I have a two thousand dollar vase in my living room, I'm making someone rob me. Or like telling a man that because he has a pretty wife, he's making his neighbor violate their marriage by sleeping with that man's wife. Or like telling a woman that because they're not dressing head-to-toe in the most Puritan-style clothing, they're making men look at them lustfully. The fault is not on the one who the sin is directed at. The fault is on the sinner. And in placing the fault on the nudist (who, by the way, is just trying to live their life the way they prefer to live it; they are not deliberately drawing someone into sin neutral ) you are implying that the one who has actually committed the sin bears no fault. Humans are capable of controlling themselves. Christians are no exception. We should learn to do so. I highly doubt Christ would be very happy with us blaming our sin on others.
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:09 pm
Traumatized Dollie Friar Thomas Do I believe that being a nudist in and of itself is a sin... no Do I believe if the fall hadn't happened we would still be nude...yes HOWEVER Do I believe that causing your brother to stumble into sin is a sin...yes Do I believe sexual immorality is a sin...yes Do I believe that being a nudist has the ability to cause your brother to stumble into the sin of sexual immorality... yes If I believe that causing my brother to sin is in fact a sin and that by being a nudist I could in fact cause my brother to stumble into the sin of sexually immorality then is being a nudist a sin... yes That's like telling me that because I have a two thousand dollar vase in my living room, I'm making someone rob me. Or like telling a man that because he has a pretty wife, he's making his neighbor violate their marriage by sleeping with that man's wife. Or like telling a woman that because they're not dressing head-to-toe in the most Puritan-style clothing, they're making men look at them lustfully. The fault is not on the one who the sin is directed at. The fault is on the sinner. And in placing the fault on the nudist (who, by the way, is just trying to live their life the way they prefer to live it; they are not deliberately drawing someone into sin neutral ) you are implying that the one who has actually committed the sin bears no fault. Humans are capable of controlling themselves. Christians are no exception. We should learn to do so. I highly doubt Christ would be very happy with us blaming our sin on others. You clearly misunderstand what I'm saying. We don't know what sins our brothers and sisters struggle with. So someone who struggles with the sin of homosexuality for example goes to his Christian friends house of the same gender and that Christian has decided that he is going to embrace the nudist way... is he not causing his brother to stumble? Don't like that example fine lets try another one: A Christian brother struggles with Alcoholism. It is something that they have struggled with for years and years and have finally gotten clean. They are now clean for 6 months and you decide to invite them over for dinner and you have a beer for dinner and you offer your Christian brother a beer for his dinner as well. He refuses for now but after he leaves satan works on him and as a result of you offering him alcohol he falls off the wagon... are you not in part to blame for your brother's sin? I'm sorry but the fact of the matter is that we are held responsible for causing our Christian brothers and sisters to sin. We cannot simply go through our lives doing whatever we please because we want to do it. Your examples are blown out of proportion to what I am saying. True nudists don't simply remain in their houses behind closed doors nude. Also your example of women I do believe fully that their style of dress causes men to look on them with lust. Our minds are wired a certain way and the way that women dress today is designed to make our minds lust. Do I believe they need to wear puritan style clothes no but I do believe that modesty is important. I'm sorry but again I disagree with you, if humans were capable of self control we would not be in the predicament we are in today we would not live in a fallen world. Adam and Eve the first humans did not practice self control thus they plunged our world into its misery place that we are in today. Look around at the world humans while they may be ABLE to use self control does not mean that they are going to. If humans used self control we would not have the number of unwanted pregnancies every year that we have, the number of abortions, the number of STD's. If human's used self control we would not have the need for a force of law makers and enforcers. We would not need a code of laws if humans operated with self control. We do not thus we need rules to follow. I am not saying that Christians should not practice a level of self control. Obviously they should but everyone struggles with something and Christians are supposed to help our brothers not cause them to stumble into what they are sinning in... which if we do that we will be held responsible. You don't believe that God will punish those who do something that causes their brother to stumble? You believe I am being too harsh? You may but the fact of the matter is that the Bible makes clear we aren't to cause our brothers to stumble. There are various verses on the subject not just the one I quoted.
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