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 Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:23 am
Hello everyone! I'm dedicating this little thread as the specific spot where we'll dump the ideas of Lore or myths and legends we will be planning. If you can use a picture to help emphasize the story, then go ahead and use it. Make sure that it is okay first though. We don't want any scandals going on unless it is in RP. I also request that you give it a title, so everyone can take a quick guess as what it is. It also help people remember it by a name, rather than using random facts for remembrance. Please and Thank you.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:24 am
The Origin of Gefangener  Once being a mortal human man who lived a peaceful life as a knight underneath of Adrian's(??) old ruling; before he died, Gefangener [Prisoner] used to have the name of Andrew. But it wasn't until one night that he had been slaughtered by none other than King Deseption himself that he had experienced death first hand. But whenever he had arrived down into the Underworld, Methose had another plan in store for him instead of sending him to Heaven, Hell, or Limbo; the lesser places. Making a deal with Andrew, Methose would grant him life once more in turn for an immortal life of being a soul bound demon. An Embracer. Accepting this fate so he would not have to feel the pain of his loss and the grief his family was going through, Andrew would not have a clue what was in store for him as he would be transformed into a demonic[see image above] being, along with having his name changed to Gefangener, due to the fact that he had unexpectedly met fate long before it had intended to meet his 25 year old life. Now lost within his sorrow, Gefangener's life and death was yet a sad story. But with that granted to him, Methose had decided to grant him even more gifts with his new form. Gefangener would be a juggernaut of power. A true war machine. A berserker. But of course his story is spread world wide and known to those who hadn't yet embraced death in a cruel cruel way. As of today this man once known to be Andrew, still walks through out the Underworld with one wish on his mind. To meet the fabled Gods called the Prima. And with that on mind, he would not expect to meet Venghence; the Goddess of the two Primas, if she were to summon him.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:25 am
Quote: History of the Elementals A long time ago, elemental creatures lived in harmony and fed off the land. These creatures were naturally herbivores and kept their peace. They were gifted with long lives. There were different types; earth, water, fire, and sky or wind.
Let's go further back to the beginning. In the beginning, there was only one being. The world was just one glob of matter kind of like water, but not quite. He began to form the universe, and in the work, he bred two children. From him, they came to be known as Light and Dark. The two siblings use to work together and make peace. Soon enough they came to create the four elements; Earth, Air, Fire, and Water. Despite their accomplishment, the two soon came to a disagreement with each other. Now brother and sister are at war with each other. One representing good. The other representing evil. From the feud, the elementals were born; creatures raised from the magical elements themselves.
The elemental beings lived in harmony, that is, until the humans showed up. It was during the middle ages with dragons, soldiers, and horses. Despite how long we've been around, man seen the elementals as wicked creatures and soon began to slay them like they did the dragons.
They set fire to forests. They killed the elementals and other wildlife in them. What made it worse was that they sometimes used their own elementals. Ones they tamed and used as...pets. They degraded the name of the elemental beings and drove them to extinction.
They killed the adults and captured the offspring. The humans were ignorant and foolish. Not understanding the peaceful attitudes of the creatures, they began to feed them meat. Raw flesh was served to the young ones. The elementals were on able to live off of this, became sick, and perished. There were a few though that was able to live off of the meat. They had to. It was either adapt and eat, or stay the same and die. Eating the meat began to change them a bit. They started to lose their rational peaceful minds. Soon enough they started to become ruthless.
The magic users began to study them, still not understanding the herbivore in them. They used their abilities over the elements and began to harness them. This was achieved in a painful way, which caused some of the elemental's deaths. That is where the 'elementalists' gained their power, but this was not the end of the torture.
Not only did they take the power of the elementals, but they also tried to strengthen them for their own gains. They tried to increase the elemental power found in the creatures. They attempted to imbue in them the power of the other elements. This did not work out as planned.
Many of the elementals screamed out in pain. They were stressed to their limits. Mutations began to happen to them, causing them to change appearances and carry on more than one elemental state or ability. Only a few of them survived the power invested in them. The others died of from the strain or from the harsh settings they were set in. Either way it seemed dim.
The ones that survived began to act strange. Their minds were corrupted by the humans. In order to sustain themselves, they began to extract the elemental essence from their fallen brothers. The same ones that they looked towards to as defense and company, they now fed off of and sometimes killed just to strengthen them and live.
If that wasn't enough, the humans decided that their 'experiments' were too dangerous and began killing off their work. The super elementals began to be slain one by one, but there was an incident. When the cage was opened, one of them came out and attacked the handler. Many of the humans and elementalists came to stop it, but they were unsuccessful.
The elemental began to consume their flesh and absorb their elemental essence. Because of that monstrous act, he began to transform. Soon enough it took on the form of a human. It became humanoid. He had pink skin, walked on two legs, and didn't know what to do. The reason it turned human was because of the restraining 'containers' they had the elemental in. It went into hiding.
That one lone being went into hiding. Forever, he must adapt to the forever changing world. It traveled to many places. He been through 2 major world wars and seen it all. He seen all the destruction and mayhem man and demon can do.
For a long time, the elementals were thought to be extinct. They were thought to have been wiped off the face of this globe by the carelessness of humans. Those demons who control one element at a time are not true elementals. They obtained their power from the elementalists, bred with them, and aquired that power. And just a few of them, were descendants of the lone elemental himself.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:26 pm
Neotepid Quote: History of the Elementals ... it sounds a little like you're writing a little biography for the whole world. or is it simply mere myth invented by the scribes of said world?
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:23 am
Metriath Neotepid Quote: History of the Elementals ... it sounds a little like you're writing a little biography for the whole world. or is it simply mere myth invented by the scribes of said world? Hmm? Well, I believe Gefangener will definately be a myth. The history of the elementals....Funny thing about that is, when I first typed it up, my character Ark--who is (by his own belief) is the last true elemental--have told the story to a succubus that just laughed at him and went away. Total a**, huh? It is the lost belief and 'religion' that the elementals once had. Though now, they should be extinct, unless you want them to still stay around. Yeah, there is one Avatar Elemental around, but he's there purely, because I want a 'bigfoot' legend. Of course, most, if not all, must be true. The part with the last elemental being there could just be some little twist or hubbub to say 'Hey! Humanity didn't kill them off! There's still one left!'
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:42 pm
Why does this guy scare me?  I wonder.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:36 pm
Neotepid Metriath Neotepid Quote: History of the Elementals ... it sounds a little like you're writing a little biography for the whole world. or is it simply mere myth invented by the scribes of said world? Hmm? Well, I believe Gefangener will definately be a myth. The history of the elementals....Funny thing about that is, when I first typed it up, my character Ark--who is (by his own belief) is the last true elemental--have told the story to a succubus that just laughed at him and went away. Total a**, huh? It is the lost belief and 'religion' that the elementals once had. Though now, they should be extinct, unless you want them to still stay around. Yeah, there is one Avatar Elemental around, but he's there purely, because I want a 'bigfoot' legend. Of course, most, if not all, must be true. The part with the last elemental being there could just be some little twist or hubbub to say 'Hey! Humanity didn't kill them off! There's still one left!' The History of the Elementals….I think we will definitely be able to include very many ‘big foot’ type legends. But I do think that the History of the Elementals either would need large modifications or just be re-created to be adequate for this world. We could use the beginning of the world for this world, but there would need to be a lot added for when other races come forth… lots of detail work and from there it would be morphed into something else. Thus, Ark would need a different creation of sorts if you like the idea of having him in the world....sorry I thought I'd already replied to this >.> don't know what happened.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:48 pm
It's okay. Besides, he can show up in the world in either one of two ways. As the last elemental, or as an Elementalist with some elementally inclined magical gear. LOL!
Anyways, how do you think we can recreate the History of the Elementals? I mean, when I first did it, it was a complete run through without me proof reading. That and it came from the horses mouth. This was mainly what Ark said anyways.
No matter, how do you think we should go around with this?
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:04 pm
Well, as is, it can't be used in the world. The myth could be that the world was created through those steps, a world of matter being formed into a universe, breading two children [light and dark], they created the elements [beings of magic and nature], some type of conflict...[need legit reason and outcome]...from there we need to have a way the other races came to the world and explain how the world became inhabitable for them...ex darkness who won the battle and the loyalty of the elements exiled light and forgot about it. Light never truly left, but began making subtle changes to the world that darkness payed little attention to as the loyal elements worshiped and played as they wished. These subtle changes allowed for animals and eventually humanoid type creatures which emerged from the outer plane of light... these could be elves or humans or gnomes or anything really.
There would need to be a way for these beings to become powerful and see the elementals as dangerous rather than a superior being that cared little about their plights. Eventually the humans could chase the elementals out of the material plane...could be out of torture/slavery or could be because they changed the material plane so much that it made it uninhabitable for them and they had to leave for an outer plane which could support each of them.
Elementals could be those humans who somehow obtained bits of power from these elementals. Ark could be a creation between all of the elementals in cursed to human form to spy on the humanoids for them. Possibly for a vengeful attack to retake the plane which would allow each of the elementals to reside together as they had originally been created to do.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:14 pm
Feign Child Well, as is, it can't be used in the world. The myth could be that the world was created through those steps, a world of matter being formed into a universe, breading two children [light and dark], they created the elements [beings of magic and nature], some type of conflict...[need legit reason and outcome]...from there we need to have a way the other races came to the world and explain how the world became inhabitable for them...ex darkness who won the battle and the loyalty of the elements exiled light and forgot about it. Light never truly left, but began making subtle changes to the world that darkness payed little attention to as the loyal elements worshiped and played as they wished. These subtle changes allowed for animals and eventually humanoid type creatures which emerged from the outer plane of light... these could be elves or humans or gnomes or anything really. There would need to be a way for these beings to become powerful and see the elementals as dangerous rather than a superior being that cared little about their plights. Eventually the humans could chase the elementals out of the material plane...could be out of torture/slavery or could be because they changed the material plane so much that it made it uninhabitable for them and they had to leave for an outer plane which could support each of them. Elementals could be those humans who somehow obtained bits of power from these elementals. Ark could be a creation between all of the elementals in cursed to human form to spy on the humanoids for them. Possibly for a vengeful attack to retake the plane which would allow each of the elementals to reside together as they had originally been created to do. *bows to your greatness* What I find funny about darkness and light is the fact that dark is supreme. Though people rather run to the light, no matter what, darkness is there. Light comes from fire, energy, bodies like the sun, but when those are gone, darkness fills the void. Darkness is what keeps things stable. Light is what keeps things changing and moving forward. Like, if a person stays in the dark about a subject, they won't change themselves because of it. I like that. Okay. Is it possible that the part with how the elementalists gained their power be true? Not for my sake, but for the fact that it would make sense on how they achieved it. Now for the legit reason why they argued. Why did the Dark and Light argue? Do you have any ideas oh supreme one?
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:49 pm
Neotepid Feign Child Well, as is, it can't be used in the world. The myth could be that the world was created through those steps, a world of matter being formed into a universe, breading two children [light and dark], they created the elements [beings of magic and nature], some type of conflict...[need legit reason and outcome]...from there we need to have a way the other races came to the world and explain how the world became inhabitable for them...ex darkness who won the battle and the loyalty of the elements exiled light and forgot about it. Light never truly left, but began making subtle changes to the world that darkness payed little attention to as the loyal elements worshiped and played as they wished. These subtle changes allowed for animals and eventually humanoid type creatures which emerged from the outer plane of light... these could be elves or humans or gnomes or anything really. There would need to be a way for these beings to become powerful and see the elementals as dangerous rather than a superior being that cared little about their plights. Eventually the humans could chase the elementals out of the material plane...could be out of torture/slavery or could be because they changed the material plane so much that it made it uninhabitable for them and they had to leave for an outer plane which could support each of them. Elementals could be those humans who somehow obtained bits of power from these elementals. Ark could be a creation between all of the elementals in cursed to human form to spy on the humanoids for them. Possibly for a vengeful attack to retake the plane which would allow each of the elementals to reside together as they had originally been created to do. *bows to your greatness* What I find funny about darkness and light is the fact that dark is supreme. Though people rather run to the light, no matter what, darkness is there. Light comes from fire, energy, bodies like the sun, but when those are gone, darkness fills the void. Darkness is what keeps things stable. Light is what keeps things changing and moving forward. Like, if a person stays in the dark about a subject, they won't change themselves because of it. I like that. Okay. Is it possible that the part with how the elementalists gained their power be true? Not for my sake, but for the fact that it would make sense on how they achieved it. Now for the legit reason why they argued. Why did the Dark and Light argue? Do you have any ideas oh supreme one? I placed darkness as supreme in this case just as an example, but then decided it was a good idea as a race which came from light could easily turn dark while a dark race would have a harder time turning to the light. Also it could affirm the idea that nature is evil/dark while advancements in magic technology and such are good coming from people who came from the light...which could eventually lead to the destruction of the world and the number 3 part. How the elementals gained their power is totally legit. I think it would be better if they were created through the disagreement of light and dark, creating something of wild beings who only have aligence to those who have more power than they....ex. the disagreement could be that light wanted to invite humanoids to their world all to worship them, but darkness thought it was trivial to have such beings. As light returned to her plane of existence, darkness took the opportunity to quickly create the elements, which were very powerful and pure magic; thus, making the material plane uninhabitable for humanoids. When light returned light tried to rebel and maybe condemned part of each element into a human body [Ark]. This, condemnation of part of each elemental was to make the elementals less powerful and gave them a form rather than them simply being pure magic, making them inferior to both darkness and light. Ark is the only reason the elementals could not take power of the world, because darkness was nieve and made them too powerful. Rather than admitting that he had been mistaken in his creations, he banished light from the material plane. Since the elements represented his nievity, darkness payed little attention to the material plane which allowed light to make her subtle changes. [ps Ark would have lived with light for this time, could be her lover if you'd like. This was light's way of keeping the elementals at bay, but Ark was a prisoner because he could not return to his elemental brothers] The elementalists could gain their power as you'd said, but that means elementalists would have to be a race rather than a class, it could not be learned but would have to travel through the bloodlines of people. Maybe we could have a bloodline of elementalists and a class type of elementalists. If we keep the bloodline, I'd like to make it a bit different...because they have true/pure magic coursing through their veins and they are mortals, the magic is a poison of a type. They have power from birth that eats them alive...kinda like a parasite.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:02 pm
Gross. Anyways, I thought of the elementalists more as people who learned how to use the power of the elementals rather than infuse it into themselves. Saying that, the power must be learned rather then a mere I have the power. Though, the idea that it's in the blood line seems legit.
I love your thinking, I really do, but, in a way, I imagined the elementals somehow making humanity and ALL races. Which is kind of ironic seeing as they are destroyed by what they created. Nonetheless, that does not need to be in their.
I always tried to figure out Ark's history though. THe orientation from elemental beast to a humanoid state was made for some part. Of course, in two RPs, he was on the side of humans. One he fight the demons that tried to control the world. In the other, he slays demons that kill humans. Which is weird.
Anyways, I guess we should expand on your idea some more with some of mine being more of detail work. What do you say?
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:04 pm
I think we should put this in Ark's lore. You know, because it's centered around the Elementals and him. It would be fitting. I expected this place just where we put our FINISHED work. Like a Rough Draft area rather than Pre-Planning.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:15 pm
If you want the elementals to be the creators of humans, that is doable. What I wrote was just a seeded thought for a possibility, there are tons of others and if you want it with the elementals I can give a thought or two on that...but I've got to go for now. I might be on again tonight...
You see what you come up with and post it somewhere and I'll read it or you can just wait till I get back and have some time. If I could I'd invent worlds for a career because I love it so much and it's so easy, but unfortunately that can't bring me a paycheck. sad
As for this thread just being the completed works for the lore, I think it would be better to post another thread with the specific name of the lore with [finished] beside it. That way I can sticky it and all the finished stuff will be obvious and you can find it easily rather than scroll through pages of finished things...
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:33 pm
Understood.
I assume that Gefangener will be the only finished Lore product that we have as all has been explained. Other than personal history since birth, he is perfectly fine.
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