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Axel Walker the Trickster

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:25 pm


Fred Weasley is ten times more popular to RP than George. I know of at least three still-active Freds, no Georges. What is this, guys? What makes one twin more liked than the other, other than the fact that Fred was killed and George wasn't? I just don't get it. And if you DO know of an active George, let me know. One of my friends plays Fred and she's looking for one.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:29 pm


        [ I don't know actually. That's a good point.
        I don't think I've ever come across a George either. lol
        Well, I may have done, back in the day... but my memory is attrocious.
        To be fair, I always thought Fred was the funnier twin.
        Maybe that's a part of the reason?


        Another RP oddity that irks me...
        Is the Tom Riddle's I find are always pre-occupied with badly written, under-developed Mary-Sue OCs. mad
        Why is this?!

        -- x ]

MistressVoldemort
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Axel Walker the Trickster

Hilarious Entrepreneur

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:10 pm


MistressVoldemort
        [ I don't know actually. That's a good point.
        I don't think I've ever come across a George either. lol
        Well, I may have done, back in the day... but my memory is attrocious.
        To be fair, I always thought Fred was the funnier twin.
        Maybe that's a part of the reason?


        Another RP oddity that irks me...
        Is the Tom Riddle's I find are always pre-occupied with badly written, under-developed Mary-Sue OCs. mad
        Why is this?!

        -- x ]


Darling, that's why badly-written, underdeveloped Mary Sue's exist. Either they're trying to reform Tom/Draco, steal Lucius away from Narcissa, become the fifth Marauder (whose animagus form is often some kind of cat because cats are apparently sexy. New way to look at Professor McGonagall?), join the Quidditch team of any house only to have Oliver Wood fall in love with them (implausible; as much as I hate to admit it, Oli/Quidditch is his only true canon), replace Hermione in the golden trio, outprank the twins, and/or be some kind of love interest for any character, male, female, or inhuman. And sadly, those of the Griffindor persuasion aren't the only offenders. If I truly must, I'm going to play the My Immortal card.

But on the point of George...we need one. Seriously, people! You're letting an unmatched set run around! Someone else with OCD, hop on that! GO.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:28 pm


Maeve Gilhooley
MistressVoldemort
        [ I don't know actually. That's a good point.
        I don't think I've ever come across a George either. lol
        Well, I may have done, back in the day... but my memory is attrocious.
        To be fair, I always thought Fred was the funnier twin.
        Maybe that's a part of the reason?


        Another RP oddity that irks me...
        Is the Tom Riddle's I find are always pre-occupied with badly written, under-developed Mary-Sue OCs. mad
        Why is this?!

        -- x ]


Darling, that's why badly-written, underdeveloped Mary Sue's exist. Either they're trying to reform Tom/Draco, steal Lucius away from Narcissa, become the fifth Marauder (whose animagus form is often some kind of cat because cats are apparently sexy. New way to look at Professor McGonagall?), join the Quidditch team of any house only to have Oliver Wood fall in love with them (implausible; as much as I hate to admit it, Oli/Quidditch is his only true canon), replace Hermione in the golden trio, outprank the twins, and/or be some kind of love interest for any character, male, female, or inhuman. And sadly, those of the Griffindor persuasion aren't the only offenders. If I truly must, I'm going to play the My Immortal card.

But on the point of George...we need one. Seriously, people! You're letting an unmatched set run around! Someone else with OCD, hop on that! GO.


I had to comment on this.
This,Gilhooley,is the most fantastic description.And the last bit - heh.
Made my day.
Except for the cat bit...I think I'm mentally scarred at that image.

iMalfoy


MistressVoldemort
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:43 am


        Maeve Gilhooley
        I couldn't have put it better myself. I can't bear their attitudes either.
        Their writing and roleplaying skills are simply insulting and somehow they're able to waltz about as though they're some form of royalty. I'm finding it difficult to hold my tongue concerning one Mary-Sue, who I think's storyline is just ridiculous and out-of-character. Then again, that's not really a rarity in Barton Town.

        Don't get me started on Voldemort's many offspring I've come across on Gaia... Tell me this, please... Why would he have a child? Why?! Please explain why Mr. Flight from Death would even consider needing an heir. This is the same man who drank unicorns blood, desired the philosopher's stone, created malicious horcruxes and went in search of the Deathly Hallows... All because he believes he will find a way to evade death and live forever. So why would he need an heir? I mean, really... /bouts of rage

        I will find us a George!

        iMalfoy
        Aw, bless. Do you get women wanting to make you their pet, Malfoy?~ o uo

        -- x
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:59 am


iMalfoy
Maeve Gilhooley
MistressVoldemort
        [ I don't know actually. That's a good point.
        I don't think I've ever come across a George either. lol
        Well, I may have done, back in the day... but my memory is attrocious.
        To be fair, I always thought Fred was the funnier twin.
        Maybe that's a part of the reason?


        Another RP oddity that irks me...
        Is the Tom Riddle's I find are always pre-occupied with badly written, under-developed Mary-Sue OCs. mad
        Why is this?!

        -- x ]


Darling, that's why badly-written, underdeveloped Mary Sue's exist. Either they're trying to reform Tom/Draco, steal Lucius away from Narcissa, become the fifth Marauder (whose animagus form is often some kind of cat because cats are apparently sexy. New way to look at Professor McGonagall?), join the Quidditch team of any house only to have Oliver Wood fall in love with them (implausible; as much as I hate to admit it, Oli/Quidditch is his only true canon), replace Hermione in the golden trio, outprank the twins, and/or be some kind of love interest for any character, male, female, or inhuman. And sadly, those of the Griffindor persuasion aren't the only offenders. If I truly must, I'm going to play the My Immortal card.

But on the point of George...we need one. Seriously, people! You're letting an unmatched set run around! Someone else with OCD, hop on that! GO.


[ I had to comment on this.
This,Gilhooley,is the most fantastic description.And the last bit - heh.
Made my day.
Except for the cat bit...I think I'm mentally scarred at that image. ]


Hm, Malfoy compliments me. Me. This day shall live in infamy. But yes, thank you. I do try my best. To be honest, I've been reading about Animagi for quite a while now, but I've only recently even entered that odd state of devil-take-the-hindmost mental insanity in which I'd actually want to attempt anything. Though I've heard that you don't actually get to choose what you transform into, your animal reflects your inner self, a bit like the form a Patronus will take. Fascinating stuff, advanced magic.
((Your sig, by the way? Brilliant.))

Axel Walker the Trickster

Hilarious Entrepreneur


Axel Walker the Trickster

Hilarious Entrepreneur

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:08 am


MistressVoldemort
        Maeve Gilhooley
        I couldn't have put it better myself. I can't bear their attitudes either.
        Their writing and roleplaying skills are simply insulting and somehow they're able to waltz about as though they're some form of royalty. I'm finding it difficult to hold my tongue concerning one Mary-Sue, who I think's storyline is just ridiculous and out-of-character.

        Don't get me started on Voldemort's many offspring I've come across on Gaia... Tell me this, please... Why would he have a child? Why?! Please explain why Mr. Flight from Death would even consider needing an heir. This is the same man who drank unicorns blood, desired the philosopher's stone, created malicious horcruxes and went in search of the Deathly Hallows... All because he believes he will find a way to evade death and live forever. So why would he need an heir? I mean, really... /bouts of rage

        I will find us a George!

        iMalfoy
        Aw, bless. Do you get women wanting to make you their pet, Malfoy?~ o uo

        -- x


Dear lady, as someone who actively participates in DC and Marvel-based RP, I can honestly say you're preaching to the choir. In out own little 'verse, some of us are actually planning on staging a coup against the worst of the lot...who happen to be in charge. 'Fools leading fools' indeed, eh? Frankly, I think if your character can neither pass a litmus test or stand up to the dreaded 101 survey (which I am in the middle of working on as we speak), crumple the paper and start over. Not to risk sounding like an elitist, but you can't slap together a few characteristics and call it a person.

In all fairness, some of the most awful, hilarious fiction has stemmed from such an idea.
I think one may have been found, though lord only knows if the mule has been created yet, or if the person in question will stick with it.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:54 am


I took this litmus test and I got... 11? crying
[ 0 - 16 is classed as being safe from appearing as Mary-Sue ]

However, I can explain reasons for certain "Mary-Sue" traits and defend my reasons for using them. And I will do, because I don't consider my character to be a Mary-Sue and when ticking the few boxes, it got me worried...

● First one I had to tick was that I use the name Lemily for my character, which is also a nickname of my own. However I was thinking of changing this name a while back, when people who had read my other work encouraged me me to keep it, because they were fond of it. So, I'm afraid, after seven years of haunting the subforum the name Lemily has well and truly stuck. I keep it because it's no longer my nickname but recognised as the official name of my OC.

● She witnesses the death of her father. Not in some dramatic murder scene or anything like that. He just dies of sickness. Hardly Mary-Sue... And she doesn't angst on it for the remainder of the story. She weeps for a while, but mostly looks back upon his influence fondly.

● Lemily loses the man she considers to be her lover/her love. We all know why. Voldemort dies at the end of book seven of course.

● She's introduced in the first paragraph and the fanfiction is written from her perspective. Now, I know some people go into elaborate detail on how attractive and impressive their character is with their introduction, my story is very much unlike that. My fanfiction starts at the end, Lemily imprisioned and writing about her eventful and chaotic life alongside the Dark Lord. I thought that by writing it from her perspective, I could describe the Death Eater life in intimate detail...

● Another tick I had to give was because Lemily falls in love with the Dark Lord. However, I think it's important to mention that the love she feels is unrequited throughout.

● She's not sarcastic, powerful, cocky, talented, exceptional, of a different species. Lemily's of an average normal appearance, average ability and often considered a coward. Lemily is aware she has made many mistakes in her life and regrets them, though, at the time, was too scared and selfish to have chosen the noble path in life.

I don't know, what do you think?
I don't want to be a hypocrite? ;~~;
I am shamed...

On the subject of George, I invited two or three of them.
We just have to wait and see if they're active.

-- x

MistressVoldemort
Captain


Axel Walker the Trickster

Hilarious Entrepreneur

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:11 am


MistressVoldemort
I took this litmus test and I got... 11? crying
[ 0 - 16 is classed as being safe from appearing as Mary-Sue ]

However, I can explain reasons for certain "Mary-Sue" traits and defend my reasons for using them. And I will do, because I don't consider my character to be a Mary-Sue and when ticking the few boxes, it got me worried...

● First one I had to tick was that I use the name Lemily for my character, which is also a nickname of my own. However I was thinking of changing this name a while back, when people who had read my other work encouraged me me to keep it, because they were fond of it. So, I'm afraid, after seven years of haunting the subforum the name Lemily has well and truly stuck. I keep it because it's no longer my nickname but recognised as the official name of my OC.

● She witnesses the death of her father. Not in some dramatic murder scene or anything like that. He just dies of sickness. Hardly Mary-Sue... And she doesn't angst on it for the remainder of the story. She weeps for a while, but mostly looks back upon his influence fondly.

● Lemily loses the man she considers to be her lover/her love. We all know why. Voldemort dies at the end of book seven of course.

● She's introduced in the first paragraph and the fanfiction is written from her perspective. Now, I know some people go into elaborate detail on how attractive and impressive their character is with their introduction, my story is very much unlike that. My fanfiction starts at the end, Lemily imprisioned and writing about her eventful and chaotic life alongside the Dark Lord. I thought that by writing it from her perspective, I could describe the Death Eater life in intimate detail...

● Another tick I had to give was because Lemily falls in love with the Dark Lord. However, I think it's important to mention that the love she feels is unrequited throughout.

● She's not sarcastic, powerful, cocky, talented, exceptional, of a different species. Lemily's of an average normal appearance, average ability and often considered a coward. Lemily is aware she has made many mistakes in her life and regrets them, though, at the time, was too scared and selfish to have chosen the noble path in life.

I don't know, what do you think?
I don't want to be a hypocrite? ;~~;
I am shamed...

On the subject of George, I invited two or three of them.
We just have to wait and see if they're active.

-- x


I personally favor this test, mainly because it has descriptions of the various kinds of Sues beforehand and keeps score as you check things: http://anyoneeb.net:83/mst/suetest/suetest.php Verdict?
Score: 550
Verdict: Non-Sue. Congratulations! Your character is not a Mary Sue. Continue on your merry non-Mary way.

I like that you take the time to explain things, and that you've got an actual story up somewhere. I'd honestly like to know more about your character.

To be fair and honest, I checked a hell of a lot of things that negated my score (length of story, realistic dialogue, detailed settings etc) based on a story that is still in progress, and I took the test based on the fact that I mostly play Maeve as an adult, not a student. For instance:

-I checked the animagus box because yes, at some point, she's going to attempt to become a registered animagus.

-I like reading about interesting-looking clothes and interesting-looking people so yes, I will sometimes describe these things. In my (yet unposted, still being written [up to five chapters now]) story, Maeve's friend Agnes Whipple gets this treatment a chapter an a half before Maeve herself, because the story is written from Maeve's perspective. She knows what she looks like.

-To many people, Maeve is an unusual name. It's certainly not one you hear often in Florida. But I liked it, and I preferred to give Maeve an ethnicity to go along with her personal sense of identity, because it's always nice to have both. Her original name was to be Drusilla, because it's the kind of name a pure-blooded wizard would try to convince his muggle-born wife to name their unborn child.

-A major part of Maeve's character is that while in school, she barely interacted with other students aside from what was necessary. Her only real friend was the aforementioned Agnes Whipple, a Ravenclaw. Other than that, her interactions were reactionary at best, and aside from being a heavy target for the Weasley twins' pranks their first six years (she's a year above them, in the same year as Wood, Flint, and Diggory.), she has little to no interaction with any non-Slytherin central characters. After leaving Hogwarts, she gets a job at Flourish and Blott's, which is one of the main settings of the story itself.

You can usually tell if someone is active based on their last login date and the dates of their latest comments, and seeing if they bothered to reply. Anyone whose last login is earlier than November, I don't bother with as they're most likely a seasonal RPer.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:30 am


Well, my OC isn't just some fleeting idea I had and jotted down within moments, shoving her into whatever plotline I saw fit. It's taken me years of crafting to have her manifest into what she is today. I mean, a long time ago, when I was starting my first fanfictions... (around 2002) Lemily first presented herself as a school-friend of Riddle, and her name was Lemily Prince. She was Eileen Prince (Snape's mother) older sister. But I soon came to scrap that idea completely. I didn't like having her connected to too many canon characters, so now she comes from an OC pureblood family and only through reminscing do Lemily and her family interact.

Your character sounds legitimate. I don't think any of what you explained is remotely Mary-Sue... What's the plot for the fanfiction concerning your OC, if you don't mind me asking?

Oh and I took the Sue handbook text. I got 200.
The only things I had to tick were;
"She falls in love with a canon," and that said canon is Voldemort.

I'm sure a George will turn up at some point.
I'll keep my eyes open.

-- x

MistressVoldemort
Captain


Axel Walker the Trickster

Hilarious Entrepreneur

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:37 am


MistressVoldemort
Well, my OC isn't just some fleeting idea I had and jotted down within moments, shoving her into whatever plotline I saw fit. It's taken me years of crafting to have her manifest into what she is today. I mean, a long time ago, when I was starting my first fanfictions... (around 2002) Lemily first presented herself as a school-friend of Riddle, and her name was Lemily Prince. She was Eileen Prince (Snape's mother) older sister. But I soon came to scrap that idea completely. I didn't like having her connected to too many canon characters, so now she comes from an OC pureblood family and only through reminscing do Lemily and her family interact.

Your character sounds legitimate. I don't think any of what you explained is remotely Mary-Sue... What's the plot for the fanfiction concerning your OC, if you don't mind me asking?

Oh and I took the Sue handbook text. I got 200.
The only things I had to tick were;
"She falls in love with a canon," and that said canon is Voldemort.

I'm sure a George will turn up at some point.
I'll keep my eyes open.

-- x


Well, let's see. I'm planning on writing at least five stories so far. The first story begins before the twins open up Weasley's Wizard Wheezes in Diagon Alley and is set to run another two chapters, up to their grand opening. It's mostly about the comings and goings of wizarding life outside of Hogwarts, on Diagon Alley focusing mostly around Maeve (as she's the narrator), Agnes, Agnes' fiance, and the twins. It's also about overcoming House prejudices once you graduate.

I mean, think about it. With the possible exception of Mr. Olivander, probably everyone that works in or opened a shop on Diagon Alley once went to Hogwarts. Sure, House ties run pretty deep, but the shopkeepers couldn't have shunted all the former Slytherins off to Knockturn Alley, now could they? In order for a local economy to function, people who work together have to at least be civil to each other.

Anyway, the central plot of the first story is thus: Twins: Sorry we were kinda dicks, Maeve. Agnes says you never go out, wanna come to a party? Maeve: I like books! People, not so much. I should work on that. Agnes: I'm getting married! Oh, look, potion ingredients! Warren (Agnes' fiance): Firewhiskey? Firewhiskey! Warren, uh, has very little characterization in the first story.
Long story short, it's something I work on at four in the morning after a long night of uninspired drivel. Seriously, I've cranked out two chapters a day for the last two days. This is the most productive I've been in weeks!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:39 am


MistressVoldemort
        Maeve Gilhooley
        I couldn't have put it better myself. I can't bear their attitudes either.
        Their writing and roleplaying skills are simply insulting and somehow they're able to waltz about as though they're some form of royalty. I'm finding it difficult to hold my tongue concerning one Mary-Sue, who I think's storyline is just ridiculous and out-of-character. Then again, that's not really a rarity in Barton Town.

        Don't get me started on Voldemort's many offspring I've come across on Gaia... Tell me this, please... Why would he have a child? Why?! Please explain why Mr. Flight from Death would even consider needing an heir. This is the same man who drank unicorns blood, desired the philosopher's stone, created malicious horcruxes and went in search of the Deathly Hallows... All because he believes he will find a way to evade death and live forever. So why would he need an heir? I mean, really... /bouts of rage

        I will find us a George!

        iMalfoy
        Aw, bless. Do you get women wanting to make you their pet, Malfoy?~ o uo

        -- x


No comment.
Sometimes I have to lock doors,and windows..

iMalfoy


iMalfoy

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:47 am


Maeve Gilhooley
iMalfoy
Maeve Gilhooley
MistressVoldemort
        [ I don't know actually. That's a good point.
        I don't think I've ever come across a George either. lol
        Well, I may have done, back in the day... but my memory is attrocious.
        To be fair, I always thought Fred was the funnier twin.
        Maybe that's a part of the reason?


        Another RP oddity that irks me...
        Is the Tom Riddle's I find are always pre-occupied with badly written, under-developed Mary-Sue OCs. mad
        Why is this?!

        -- x ]


Darling, that's why badly-written, underdeveloped Mary Sue's exist. Either they're trying to reform Tom/Draco, steal Lucius away from Narcissa, become the fifth Marauder (whose animagus form is often some kind of cat because cats are apparently sexy. New way to look at Professor McGonagall?), join the Quidditch team of any house only to have Oliver Wood fall in love with them (implausible; as much as I hate to admit it, Oli/Quidditch is his only true canon), replace Hermione in the golden trio, outprank the twins, and/or be some kind of love interest for any character, male, female, or inhuman. And sadly, those of the Griffindor persuasion aren't the only offenders. If I truly must, I'm going to play the My Immortal card.

But on the point of George...we need one. Seriously, people! You're letting an unmatched set run around! Someone else with OCD, hop on that! GO.


[ I had to comment on this.
This,Gilhooley,is the most fantastic description.And the last bit - heh.
Made my day.
Except for the cat bit...I think I'm mentally scarred at that image. ]


Hm, Malfoy compliments me. Me. This day shall live in infamy. But yes, thank you. I do try my best. To be honest, I've been reading about Animagi for quite a while now, but I've only recently even entered that odd state of devil-take-the-hindmost mental insanity in which I'd actually want to attempt anything. Though I've heard that you don't actually get to choose what you transform into, your animal reflects your inner self, a bit like the form a Patronus will take. Fascinating stuff, advanced magic.
((Your sig, by the way? Brilliant.))


I choose to only compliment those who deem worthy of it.
Most of these things I don't even learn about,until it actually takes place. Not so often from my point of view - that,or the fact that I don't venture much,unless it seems interesting.
(( Thank you.))
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:29 pm


iMalfoy
Maeve Gilhooley
iMalfoy
Maeve Gilhooley
MistressVoldemort
        [ I don't know actually. That's a good point.
        I don't think I've ever come across a George either. lol
        Well, I may have done, back in the day... but my memory is attrocious.
        To be fair, I always thought Fred was the funnier twin.
        Maybe that's a part of the reason?


        Another RP oddity that irks me...
        Is the Tom Riddle's I find are always pre-occupied with badly written, under-developed Mary-Sue OCs. mad
        Why is this?!

        -- x ]


Darling, that's why badly-written, underdeveloped Mary Sue's exist. Either they're trying to reform Tom/Draco, steal Lucius away from Narcissa, become the fifth Marauder (whose animagus form is often some kind of cat because cats are apparently sexy. New way to look at Professor McGonagall?), join the Quidditch team of any house only to have Oliver Wood fall in love with them (implausible; as much as I hate to admit it, Oli/Quidditch is his only true canon), replace Hermione in the golden trio, outprank the twins, and/or be some kind of love interest for any character, male, female, or inhuman. And sadly, those of the Griffindor persuasion aren't the only offenders. If I truly must, I'm going to play the My Immortal card.

But on the point of George...we need one. Seriously, people! You're letting an unmatched set run around! Someone else with OCD, hop on that! GO.


[ I had to comment on this.
This,Gilhooley,is the most fantastic description.And the last bit - heh.
Made my day.
Except for the cat bit...I think I'm mentally scarred at that image. ]


Hm, Malfoy compliments me. Me. This day shall live in infamy. But yes, thank you. I do try my best. To be honest, I've been reading about Animagi for quite a while now, but I've only recently even entered that odd state of devil-take-the-hindmost mental insanity in which I'd actually want to attempt anything. Though I've heard that you don't actually get to choose what you transform into, your animal reflects your inner self, a bit like the form a Patronus will take. Fascinating stuff, advanced magic.
((Your sig, by the way? Brilliant.))


I choose to only compliment those who deem worthy of it.
Most of these things I don't even learn about,until it actually takes place. Not so often from my point of view - that,or the fact that I don't venture much,unless it seems interesting.
(( Thank you.))


It's always wise to pursue knowledge, young Malfoy. You open up a new world and a new line of thinking with everything you learn. Graduating from school doesn't mean you know everything there is to know, trust me.

Axel Walker the Trickster

Hilarious Entrepreneur


Helena Cheever

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:02 pm


Well, for me, everyone who ever wants to RP twins, always ask for George....But I do see a lot of Fred ones at that.... Tis very strange.....
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