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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:40 pm
Ever notice how similar these two are, maybe they are the same person. Maybe Shadowman survived all that time between Megaman Series till Megaman Zero Series?Note
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:17 pm
Sure, and maybe Mega Man X really is just Mega Man upgraded, or Zero is Bass/Protoman/Rush (I've never heard this one, but others have) upgraded. Maybe Roll is really Alia. Maybe X really died in Z3. Maybe Zero's really a girl!
Sorry, but there's no way that he survived, unnoticed, until the Zero series, and was upgraded to Reploid status along the way.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:19 pm
Then explain how Cutman was in Megaman X8, if he was able to survive that long, a ninja could survive unnoticed longer.I
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:34 pm
Well, seeing as how I never played X8 (No PS2) I wouldn't know the circumstances at which he appeared. However, if you're going to use that, then let me prove it by a more practical means.
The Shittenou were created in the image of their leader, X. Each of the four were modeled after one of his armors, of which Leviathan is the only one that is considered questionable. Phantom was modeled after the Shadow Armor, as seen in X6.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:11 pm
That may be true, but Robotic A.I.'s are virtually indestructable, Shadowman's A.I. could have piggybacked into the main processor of that body.believe
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:53 pm
you do have to adnit, the way they look, even their tactics in a fight are painfully similar, i dont think they are one and the same, but perhaps phantoms body was influenced by shadow mans
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:35 pm
Well I never said it was the same body, but maybe, since Computer A.I.'s are virtually indestructable, maybe when Wily created Zero, shadowmans Data got transferred into Zero as well, and then when Zero gave X his weapon Shadoman's A.I. piggybacked over, and then somehow made it into the computer system that Phantom's A.I. was programmed with and he rewrote it with a portion of himself.this
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:56 am
Rerando Well I never said it was the same body, but maybe, since Computer A.I.'s are virtually indestructable, maybe when Wily created Zero, shadowmans Data got transferred into Zero as well, and then when Zero gave X his weapon Shadoman's A.I. piggybacked over, and then somehow made it into the computer system that Phantom's A.I. was programmed with and he rewrote it with a portion of himself. While creative, Phantom is derived from the Shadow Armor, designed by Dr. Light, not by any weapons that X retrieved. And the only time X had a weapon was the Z-Buster (Which is optional) and the Z-Sabre (Which wasn't given to him, nor was it created by Wily)
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:19 pm
I was referring to the Z-Buster which he recieved in the first game from Zero. And then when Phantom was being programmed Shadowmans Data got transferred in.theory
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:12 pm
Rerando Then explain how Cutman was in Megaman X8, if he was able to survive that long, a ninja could survive unnoticed longer. stare You mean the holographic Cutman that appeared in the training stage, which created a variety of artificial/holographic "tests" to go through? The one that was announced as "It looks like some data has been downloaded from an outside source!"?
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:27 pm
Exactly, It proves that the A.I. Data from Wily's Robot Masters have survived.is
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:06 am
Rerando Exactly, It proves that the A.I. Data from Wily's Robot Masters have survived. 1) Why would Shadowman's data, of all the robot masters, be included in Zero's buster? Shadowman wasn't even Wily's favorite! (Guts Man is, in case you didn't know) 2) You don't necesarily have to get the Z-Buster. You could always get the modified X-Buster that Light created instead, which is equal in power and ability. 3) Cut Man's data being downloaded into the training session only proves that 1 of Wily's robot master's A.I. data survived, Cut Man. Nothing else is proven.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:25 am
Shadow DelaSangre Rerando Exactly, It proves that the A.I. Data from Wily's Robot Masters have survived. 1) Why would Shadowman's data, of all the robot masters, be included in Zero's buster? Shadowman wasn't even Wily's favorite! (Guts Man is, in case you didn't know) 2) You don't necesarily have to get the Z-Buster. You could always get the modified X-Buster that Light created instead, which is equal in power and ability. 3) Cut Man's data being downloaded into the training session only proves that 1 of Wily's robot master's A.I. data survived, Cut Man. Nothing else is proven. Yes but isn't Capcom known for throwing in crazy storylines like this, I mean at first Zero was just a reploid, then they "reveal his past" to make him a creation of Wily. So it is highly possible something like this is possible. And on a side note I said "Shadowmans data could have piggybacked" that means Wily didn't include it. It means that Shadowman hacked his own way in. Note: Sorry If is misspelled any words, I just woke up and haven't dranken my coffee yet. bunk
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:46 pm
Rerando Yes but isn't Capcom known for throwing in crazy storylines like this, I mean at first Zero was just a reploid, then they "reveal his past" to make him a creation of Wily. So it is highly possible something like this is possible. And on a side note I said "Shadowmans data could have piggybacked" that means Wily didn't include it. It means that Shadowman hacked his own way in. Note: Sorry If is misspelled any words, I just woke up and haven't dranken my coffee yet. Yes, Capcom turned Zero from mere reploid into Advanced Robot Master, but this crazy storyline wasn't part of the original plan. Zero was meant to die. But because fans loved this new character so much, they decided to ressurect him and make him a more intrical part of the story, which is still, while a bit crazy, plauseable, and has significance. There would be no significance in making Phantom an upgraded Shadowman, especially since he's the most dedicated of X's Big Four. And since Shadowman was destroyed early on, how would he get into Wily's last (or one of the last) machines? And for what purpose? Survival? He'd been destroyed for a good amount of time. There were plenty of Robot Masters. Why wait for this one? And on a final note, you still fail to acknowledge the fact that there is a posibility that X never got the Z-Buster, thereby never getting this Shadowman data, thereby never letting it be transfered into the Shadow Armor of which Phantom was based, not built.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:22 pm
Shadow DelaSangre Rerando Yes but isn't Capcom known for throwing in crazy storylines like this, I mean at first Zero was just a reploid, then they "reveal his past" to make him a creation of Wily. So it is highly possible something like this is possible. And on a side note I said "Shadowmans data could have piggybacked" that means Wily didn't include it. It means that Shadowman hacked his own way in. Note: Sorry If is misspelled any words, I just woke up and haven't dranken my coffee yet. Yes, Capcom turned Zero from mere reploid into Advanced Robot Master, but this crazy storyline wasn't part of the original plan. Zero was meant to die. But because fans loved this new character so much, they decided to ressurect him and make him a more intrical part of the story, which is still, while a bit crazy, plauseable, and has significance. There would be no significance in making Phantom an upgraded Shadowman, especially since he's the most dedicated of X's Big Four. And since Shadowman was destroyed early on, how would he get into Wily's last (or one of the last) machines? And for what purpose? Survival? He'd been destroyed for a good amount of time. There were plenty of Robot Masters. Why wait for this one? And on a final note, you still fail to acknowledge the fact that there is a posibility that X never got the Z-Buster, thereby never getting this Shadowman data, thereby never letting it be transfered into the Shadow Armor of which Phantom was based, not built. Okay you still aren't getting what I'm saying so I'll break it down for you. 1) Computer A.I. is virtually indestructable, meaning whatever computer Wily used to program Shadowman would still contain Shadowman's A.I. even after his destruction. 2) I never said that Phantom was built from the Shadow Armor. I said his data somehow got onto the computer that the A.I. was being written for Phantom and He took the place. 3) It all depends on what you consider Canon of the two possible storylines in MMX.
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