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 Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:25 pm
Are you confused as all hell?! Or maybe not so confused as just curious about the setting, or maybe something in the rules isn't clear? Any question you have post it here! Maybe you don't have a question but a good idea~ This thread is also the place where you can submit it and get a response from the shop staff.
Please turn off your text formatting so that mod replies are clearly visible in your posts!
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:36 pm
While I know how City People die, I'm not really sure how long they live. Is it more like human people, who are usually between 70-100 to die natural deaths, or is the typical range far greater? (I'm mostly asking because I'd like to know how old /old/ is for a City Person - how long does one have to be around to be really established as being not a young person in the community.)
Or is it more random, dependent on each person?
(I just don't want to be like "oh yes, my person is 400 years old!" if that is utterly implausible in the general atmosphere. XD)
The average City Person kicks it at about 130. You're considered SUPER OLD if you hit 150. As a young person, your license for stupidity and irresponsibility runs out at around 45. After that it's expected you handle yourself like a mature, "adult" individual should. ~ Egg
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:54 pm
On that note, what age are city people "born" at?
Also, I know they can inherit things from those who pass it on, but can they be "born" into money? Or do all City People come into existence poor, and then have to work their way to being a rich posh person? <3
City People are born at a youngish age - enough that they can stumble around and feed themselves at least. But it's hard to tell their ages anyway. Unlike humans who we can clearly see progressing from an infant state to one that's old, aside from an increase in size it's harder to tell when a City Person is old or young. They do not have bodies that can display wrinkles or other signs of age, after all. With old age some of them become a bit more gaunt or willowy... but essentially the most reliable way to tell a "new born" City Person from an older one is that a younger City Person has to get a bit taller/bigger.
As for being born into money, it's nearly impossible. City People just happen to pop into existence (more or less) within the City. Maybe they get lucky and immediately after emerging into life a very rich City Person or Book Child sees them and thinks they are particularly adorable, or smart, or what have you, and they decide to "adopt" them right off the bat. But there's little way to knowing when or where a City Person is going to appear... some times they've appeared in very unpleasant and inconvenient places. ~ Egg
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:45 pm
Would it be acceptable to have an insectoid City Person with four arms, so long as they follow the functioning-hands rule for all of them?
Also, are there other smaller university-type establishments besides Fin Magna? Is it the only one, or just the biggest/most prestigious academy?
Hmm... I think it's really cute! Normally I'd say things are getting kind of weird there, since City People are normally more human than not, but in this specific case I would probably make an exception for it because that's sort of... absolutely adorable to me. I'd also get Vamps' opinion though.
There are definitely smaller institutions. They're not located in the upper layer, though. Fin Magna is the biggest most awesome academic establishment, but it's not the only one. There's also a plethora of trade and craft schools. ~ Egg
For insect like city people with having more then the traditional 2 arms of a humanoid, it would depend on how they're present in RP. City people are humanoid in appearance, and those at break the norms to greater extents will have to deal with a bit of social 'defect' in character. And also it would make it more difficult to get them approved. Having four arms on an insect city person it certainly possible, I wouldn't reject it outright. But what it will boil down to is content and context. if I saw someone saying they had four arms and could play two instruments at a time and suffered no IC backlash for having something overly unuasual, I'd nix it. Where as someone who's second set of arms while useful, can also be a hinderance, I'd feel more comfortable? Again, there really is no real flat answer to here as is boils down to context and content.
By all means go for it, but be aware of how your character will play and the shop's setting is all I ask. ~Vamps
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:41 pm
As far as stories for Book Children go, would something with mostly pictures and few or no words be okay?
I'm afraid not. Book Children are based off of works of literature, which is why comic books, manga, and lyric books won't work. You can use an illustrated book, but it has to have a high ratio of writing to pictures. Book Children are spawned from the words of the story, specifically.~ Egg
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:21 pm
Oh, was gonna ask, Egg, more than one child can come from the same book, right? Just like with the Kwaiden for the current Mythology Month characters? Would each child then be able to recite the whole book, or would they have to be based on separate stories from the same book, and therefore only be able to recite their particular story?
Basically, if I want to maybe use a book that is superlong and has a ton of characters, would the Child be limited to one particular story from the whole?
If it's a huge long book with a million characters all involved in one story, every Book Child spawned from that book can still recite the entire thing. If it's a collection of short stories a Book Child will only know the narrative they're connected to. Fairy tales, for instance: A book contains Snow White, Sleeping Beauty and Red Riding Hood and spawns a child for each story. Snow White's child can only recite the story of Snow White even though s/he comes from a book containing all three stories. ~ Egg
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:42 am
I asked this in the main thread, but just so you don't miss it, Mundane!
Does the story of the first book child still live on today, and would it still be taught to others? Or is it something more obscure? <3
Oh yes! Pretty much everyone knows it, it's like a fairy tale. Like hearing the story of Little Red Ridinghood while you're growing up or something like that, it gets told to "younger" City People usually.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:11 pm
I've got a couple of questions.
What's the weather like in this world? Does it rain? If so, will the lower and middle levels experience it?
It doesn't rain. There are no clouds, either. The sky's only features are the tiny sun and moon, both of which do a terrible job at providing light. The City gets its water from a river that flows out of the forest through the lower levels and natural springs in the cleared area surrounding the City.
Can the City People and the Book Children leave the city (not to die)?
If so, what is the terrain like outside of the city other than the forest?
They cannot. It is strictly forbidden to leave the City. It's like a giant religious taboo for one, and there are guardians (big monsters basically) in the forest which prevent people from leaving. Everyone who enters the forest never comes back, anyway.
Outside the city there is nothing but the paper forest. It stretches on forever, or at least as far as the eye and any telescope can see.
Do the City People/Book Children sleep?
They sleep! Book Children are immortal, but they feel tired and get hungry. They could technically go on forever feeling tired and hungry, but that's incredibly unpleasant so nobody wants to do that. City People are like humans and will die if they don't eat or sleep.
~ Egg
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:22 am
For the Meta (Night of Stories), do you need a Book Child meta-stamped to RP, or can you get a City Person meta-stamped instead?
City people can also get the meta stamp as well! Book children are just more universally desired characters being growing and in full color. But certainly you can have a city person get the Meta stamp!
~Vamps
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:50 pm
Does the city have a form of currency? If so, what is it called and what is an approximate exchange rate for products?
The City uses paper bills and copper and silver coins, and a smaller unit (like our now-forgotten half-pense) called "tens."
1 copper is probably comparable to 25 cents in USD, about. In the City 1 copper would be a rather large loaf of bread. In general, things are less expensive in the City than we're used compared to our modern day inflated currency.
A new shirt is probably around 7 coppers. Food products are the least expensive of all commodities, though they've been rising lately with the population increase. The cost of dinner for a "family" of 3 is around 4 coppers. Provided they're not eating fancy, the average person living alone can feed themselves a decent 3 meals a on 2 coppers a day.
1 silver is 125 coppers. 1 silver is worth something around $37 if we do the math, but things are less expensive. So think of 1 silver as being more like the modern day value of $100 USD in the City.
1 silver is a piece of furniture or an expensive, well-made pair of shoes for a working class person. A good middle-class mechanical pet - one that's nice to look at, functions well and performs useful tasks around the house - is 2 ~ 4 silvers, depending on size, function and prettiness. Like a modern day $200 ~ $400. They're intended to last a long time. A wealthy person's very nice clockwork pet, like a golden bird, can run you anywhere between between 15 silvers and 80 ($1,500 ~ $8,000 modern day USD) depending on how big and elaborate it is.
Rent in the middle layer is usually between 3 silvers and 5. Places in Strathness are on the higher end of that, Eyncastor is more likely to be 5 or even up to 7 in some nice areas. For bad areas, rent is usually like 1 silver. If it's really, really shitty, you can find nasty, smelly places for 90 coppers.
To buy a mechanized carriage upfront is probably about 130 silvers. Maintaining it each month is another 3 or 4 more. You probably pay your driver 2 silvers a month, which is a pretty good salary given he doesn't have to pay for rent or food.
Tens are little coins which, as their name implies, need 10 to make 1 copper. They're useful for buying really little things and giving to homeless people, but not much else. Most people prefer to avoid them. Farmers and other people selling products based on weight usually only allow shoppers to buy a certain amount of their product at once - EX: a 1.5lb bag of whatever for 1 copper - in order to avoid having to make change with tens.
Paper bills are basically only for very large amounts of money, the upper class prefers them. You don't generally want to announce that you're carrying around 10 silvers in your pocket and coins tend to jingle. They stand in for silvers. They come in 5, 10, and 50 (modern day $500, $1000, $5000).
Average poor person's salary - 1 silver ~ 1 silver and 70 coppers a month
Grunt work jobs, just scraping by. Eat really cheap and live in a smelly, smelly place.
Average middle class person's salary - 4 ~ 9 silvers a month.
Doing okay, and you eat well and live in a good, if small, place - but money gets tight sometimes and rent eats most of your salary. Gotta save up for the nice things.
Average middle-class-richish person's salary - 10 ~ 15 silvers a month.
Most of the time you can the buy stuff you want when you want it and you can live where you like in the middle layer, even though rent is still your major cost. You have some money in the bank!
Wealthy person's salary - a lot
Haters gon' hate.
Are there any rarities in Library City that have high exchange rates (like diamonds and gold in our world)?
Animal products are probably one of the highest commodities in this world. They only come in on Book Children, and there aren't that many of those in the City - maybe a few hundred at the most. The only other place to get animal products is if you happened to find them somewhere hidden in the City - but those are extremely old, and mostly leather book covers. Archeological finds, basically.
So a nice fur coat - a real fur coat - is a pretty priceless symbol of wealth.
That being said, shiny rocks and gold and such are all still valuable, just like in our world.
~ Mundane Egg
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:05 am
Question! The City People talk in text, so everything is technically silent. My question is...
Say City Person A was trying to get the attention of another City Person B, but B was not looking near A's direction or anything... Could B still know they were being talked to, or shouted at, etc?
Same question goes toward a City Person and a Book Child. Easy to say, a BC could just shout and grab the attention of the City Peep. But what if the BC was needed by the City Person? Could a BC sense words being directed at them?
If this was answered somewhere, I apologize.
They probably have to direct their words in a way that they'll end up flying past their friend's face, lol. When "shouting" a City Person's letters get much bigger and tend to fly farther. Although if you're trying to get to someone to notice you from across a crowded square you're probably s**t out of luck, lol. But I think City People, who are a little bit magical anyway, are rather attuned to that sort of thing. You know that weird thing that happens when someone is looking at you and you end up turning your head to look at them directly, even though there was no way you could have known they were staring at you? I imagine that sort of thing happens with City People and talking.
I think Book Children are a little more obtuse. The same thing still probably happens with them, but they end up realizing someone is trying to get their attention a lot slower than a City Person would.
~ Mundane Egg
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:24 pm
Mm.. I have a question about the City People fashion. [Lol]
Are the clothes colourful? [[Before the City People touch them, of course.]]
Or is colourful clothing made specifically for the Book Children?
There is colorful clothing available to everyone, but it's slightly more expensive than just getting something with the simple black or white dyes. You know, grinding the dye for a purple shirt is far more work than just leaving it white and all. So since the clothes are just going to turn black and white when they wear them anyway most middle class City People don't bother buying clothes with colors. Upper class people have the money to burn so they're more prone to buying colorful clothing.
The places where City People invest in putting color are usually in their homes. Their furniture, their wallpaper, etc.
~ Egg
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:09 am
I have a question about the stamps, actually. I'm new to Paper Forest and well aware that I'm able to participate in the meta event, but is there a difference in whether a character's profile is stamped as "meta-approved" or "approved"? I noticed that everyone else who isn't own a Book Child who are participating in the Meta have a "Meta-Stamp" but Akihiko's stamp is just an "Approved". Is there a difference in them or is it just me? @__@
As far as I understand it (since this is really Vamps' area of expertise)
The "Meta stamp" means that character is technically considered "unfinished" - the profile still needs work or maybe the player isn't even sure they're going to stick with that set of personality traits - but they're approved to test out what they have so far in meta RPs only. They can't start or participate in regular RPs in the forum. The regular "Approved" stamp means the character profile is finished and no further changes are necessary.
Quests for Book Children can get fully Approved even if their artwork hasn't been obtained yet, but that character is confined to metas only because technically the pet still doesn't exist. So getting fully approved when you don't have art yet is effectively like getting a Meta-stamp. BUT the difference is that having your quest fully approved before you get your art means that once you do have it you can jump right into RPing - no waiting around after you've received your art.
Vamps hands out meta and regular approval stamps as she sees fit, and sometimes she'll ask certain requirements be fulfilled when she gives out a certain stamp depending on what she thinks is necessary.
AW MAN LOOKING AT THE ******** SAMURAI IN YOUR SIG ******** YEAH.
And Egg is 100% on the money. When a book child quest is fully approved, it means that they don't need any changes, and once you get art, you can zip right on over to journals, RP, whatever you fancy. It also means that the artists can go and make them real in time off.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:23 pm
Would it be conceivable to have a City Person who speaks in dingbats/wingdings, sort of like a speech impediment? I understand it'd likely be a royal pain to play like that, but would it be acceptable for a character involved in my Book Child quest's history, who would no longer be in play?
From an RP perspective, I'd say this should be fine since it's not an active quest or RP character. In my viewpoint:
What we see as letters/fonts-> City person's speech
What we see as Images/pictures -> City Person warble garble/foreign language, (and very much not going to be seen very often).
Technically it can be read and deciphered. But it would just take a s**t ******** ton of time. So for speech impediment it might be that they drop letters or replace them. Or use a font like dingbats, which...you actually can't even speak in real life to my knowledge. |D That is just my personal take on it, Egg might come in and say different.~Vamps
I'd say it's fine. Whenever City People make those nonsense noises it comes out weird. If they sigh, they don't make letters spelling out "sigh" or anything, it just comes out as a squiggle. Stuff like that is more like if you were writing and someone bumped your arm. Dingbats would be very weird, but I can see them happening under special circumstances. Most speech impediments would probably look more like Vamps suggested, or like really, really malformed letters and scribbles.
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