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Griffin3

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:08 pm


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(This is one I've had in my facebook notes, might as well have it here)

Groups of people try to survive the global cataclysm that is the end of the world. Complete with massive earthquakes, outragous volcanic eruptions and giant tidal waves.


I am not the biggest fan of Roland Emmerich. But I'll admit, I sorta liked independence day, I tolerated godzilla, The Day After Tomorrow was ok, and I don't wanna waste my time with 10,000 B.C. or stargate.

So what about 2012?

As much as I love disaster movies, when I saw the trailer for this movie I said to myself: "I'm not seeing this one" but my dad kept on insisting that I see the movie. I don't know what came over me, but finally I decided to rent it and watch it.

And I have to say that no movie has ever made me more mad than this one.


Many parts of this movie are either ridiculous, over the top, and completely innapropriate.

For example:

The scenes where the main characters (most of which I thought were boring, stuck up and kinda hated) were running from disaster were way too repetative that the next ones just got more boring.

This movie has two characters who are musicians and they have one scene where they talk about how it's not the end of the world and they even sing a song about it, and it's pathetically ovbious they are going to die.

They rip off The Posiedon Adventure!!

The government was beind the assasinations of anyone who tried to blab about the end of the world, and like an idiot they warn the world about it at the last minute. And it seems pretty clear that the government is more concerned with saving thier own lives then others.

Incredibly dumb scenes that try to be funny but are just stupid involving a voice activated car, a tight rope walking dog, and a scene with a chicken reacting to news of a coming disaster while one person tells his grandma they have to leave before it hits, but she insists they eat first & then DECAPITATES THE CHICKEN!!

And on top of all this, most of the time I could predict when characters would die and to be honest, I wanted them to. And the ones that I prayed would die or at least get injured didnt get a single scratch, what a rip-off!

bottom line: While the effects are nice, the story is terrible. I hated this movie.


Final rating: 0/10

Also, who designs an Ark that can't start it's engine unless all the doors on it are closed?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:03 am


While I wasn't particularly fond of the movie either, I have to say that your review was a bit...harsh.

What I disagree with:

The portrayal of the government's actions in response to the disaster is, I feel, very accurate; if you have the knowledge that the world is going to end, (And soon,) and you are in control of the preparation for that situation, the steps you would take -should- be along the same lines.

- Telling the general public, (At least, at first,) is a terrible idea. This only leads to panic, -especially- if you have the means to prepare to save specific individuals. (I disagree with the ability to BUY a seat, but that's for another argument.) It would lead to riots, irrational behavior in all accounts and overall mayhem.

- Thus, keeping the secret safe is also -key-. Sure, they revealed it a bit too late, but it's a good idea to keep it under wraps until you're actually prepared to do something about it. So, the actions of the government in the assassination of blabber-mouths -- yeah, that could definitely happen. If you're a threat to the general plan, history has shown that they'll do something about it.

- It's key to protect the intelligent and the recognized. In a world with no symbols and no intelligence, we get a world like the ones portrayed in post-apocalyptic stories, such as Fallout. Symbols are important for the people, and intelligence is important for the rebuilding of society. Not only this, but they had limited time and resources; saving the important people was the best decision, albeit a morally challenging one.




Next, the "Incredible funny/dumb scenes"...Well, it's a movie. Who knows what could actually happen? It's a fictional representation. I personally found some of those scenes at least worth a chuckle.

And character-death predictability is impossible to avoid. It's like with "And Then There Were None". A brilliantly written novel, but you can't honestly tell me that you didn't expect a majority of the deaths when most of them involved a "Stay here, I'll go do x". It's hard to pull off a "OH WOAH I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT" in the death business.



The main characters being stuck-up and boring...I'm going to need an example or two of this. If anything, the SURROUNDING evil/condescending characters were more stuck-up and boring. It's an apocalypse movie; the most interesting role you can follow is a father and a family. What, you're telling me the story would have been sufficiently more well-written or supported if we saw it through the eyes of a random civilian who had absolutely no family connections?


And finally, it's an APOCALYPSE movie. Idunno how you would suggest you make a "EVERYTHING'S EXPLODING" scene less repetitive than another, but for the most part I found them very entertaining and thrilling.




What I agree with:
It wasn't the most impressive movie I've ever seen, sure. And it was a little...bland when there was no actual drama in the movie at all; most of the main, good-hearted characters escaped without a single scratch, and ALL of the evil or bad-hearted characters met a terrible fate.


Personally, I felt the movie was average. At the most, it was worth a rental, but certainly not worth the movie theatre prices.

YumaKirosaki


Griffin3

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:54 pm


-Some of your explanations about the government I can accept, I’ve just never been a real fan of how most movies portray them (or in actuality for that matter). As for the assassinations, I just personally felt it was going a bit too far even for us. Simply capturing and detaining them would have worked better.

-I just didn’t find those scenes funny.

-When I say stuck up, I was talking about the government folk. As well as that boy who wanted absolutely nothing to do with his real father.

“What, you're telling me the story would have been sufficiently more well-written or supported if we saw it through the eyes of a random civilian who had absolutely no family connections?”

No, I’m just saying the main characters could have been handled better. And when the stepfather died, everyone was pretty much: “Meh” what was up with that?

“I dunno how you would suggest you make a "EVERYTHING'S EXPLODING" scene less repetitive than another.”

Well, maybe not. I mean I love explosions as much as the next guy. What got me were them using the whole ‘ground crumbling beneath them’ too much. Granted, there were some creative action scenes like the driving through the building part.

And finally, Yes, Maybe I was a little too hard on it.
I mostly attribute that to my personal disbelief of the whole ‘2012 doomsday’ nonsense.
This just seemed like a bad way of cashing in on people’s paranoia, and there was a website made where people register for a lottery number to be part of a small population that would be rescued from the so called apocalypse. Not only was this inappropriate, but deceptive. And the site actually caused some teens to contemplate suicide thinking it was real and not knowing it was just a marketing campaign.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:37 pm


Source on the teenager thing? I never heard that, but if that's true damn. I mean, I knew of the website but I assumed that noone would be stupid enough to think that was real.



And don't get me wrong; I think the whole ideas behind 2012 are utter bullshit. But making it into a movie definitely makes the whole "theory" seem a lot less convincing. Did it make more money off of a doomsday theory? Sure, but any disaster movie is based off of some theory or some predicted event. That's what a disaster movie is. At any rate, Idunno. "Cashing in" on it wasn't my idea of it. In making a movie about 2012, it feels like they fictionalized the idea. They made it something that only happens in a movie, much like other movies.


Griffin3
-Some of your explanations about the government I can accept, I’ve just never been a real fan of how most movies portray them (or in actuality for that matter). As for the assassinations, I just personally felt it was going a bit too far even for us. Simply capturing and detaining them would have worked better.

That doesn't really make sense. How does that work better? What's the point in imprisoning a liability? That's like supervillain logic, dude. "You have the potential to ruin the plan. So, instead of ending this now, I'm going to assign essential manpower to guard you in a room with the potential to fail."

They're about to face the APOCALYPSE. In all honesty, all procedure and morality would crumble in government; they have one goal: The preservation of humanity by its strongest roots. Anyone that is a threat to that simply couldn't be IMPRISONED.

YumaKirosaki


Griffin3

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:02 pm


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/relax-the-end-isnt-nigh-1804340.html
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:43 am


I have to agree with YumaKirosaki, I didn't like the movie either. It was pretty bad and very repetitive. Just more regurgitated Roland Emmerich style film making and it was old 5 minutes ago. But I think your review was a little bit harsh.

While most of the characters were annoying, some were enjoyable and fun. Woody Harrelson was by far the most enjoyable part of the movie. He couldn't save it, but he was one of the few bright spots in what would otherwise be a dismal film.

I might have given this film a 0/10 if I had higher expectations, but being a Roland Emmerich film I went in there expecting a sub-par film that plays out like every other Emmerich film, and pretty much got what I was thinking I was going to get.

I would overall give the movie a solid D. A few good moments, might be enjoyable for someone who love Emmerich or disaster films, but on the grand scale of things, still a pretty bad movie with pretty effects.

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