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SpeQz

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:23 am


So... we have four clues that point towards Ginji of Thunder:

- I may not surface for a while.
His interests include... swimming. And he apparently claimed to be a lifeguard in the past. So in those waves, it might be a while before he surfaces again.

- I'd only get sweeter with age.
His wishlist includes, hey look, thank you letters! Don't they get more expensive over time? Huh?

- Maybe I just talk too much.
He's also a RPer. So that means he is likely to make much longer posts than a typical conversation!

- Plus, let's not forget this doozie: He openly admitted to being Kira. And on that same day, Kira started finding people's names.

Now I don't mind being voted off, for science. But once you're done assuming I'm stupid enough to submit a clue that directly implicates myself, can we get to the real Kira, please? biggrin
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:25 am


Oh, one more thing. Take a look at his join date.

11/11/2007.

11 also being his number in the game. But if you take it literally, you have to read through the 11/11 (or "go through him") to get to the 2007!

Coincidence? I don't think so.

SpeQz


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:29 am


Aren't clues supposed to directly implicate the person they're about??

I do think there is something very fishy going on with Ginji, but you are just much too suspicious to pass up! Whenever we don't vote out a suspicious person, it's always them, and we pass them up as "oh, it was just random speculation"... I just want to make sure first! >.<
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:34 am


My point is, Kira's other clues have been vague and indirect, so why would he suddenly post a clue that puts his number as the primary target? It makes no sense.

Also keep in mind that I was Kira last game. What are the odds of me being Kira two games in a row?

Ginji makes far more sense IMO.

SpeQz


Ginji of Thunder

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:56 am


As I understood it, Clues just have to eliminate SOMEONE who is still alive on the day that they're sent in. So clues like "I am not Derrai" are actual valid if Derrai is playing and alive on the day that clue is sent in. They are frowned upon (and up to GM discretion I believe(?)) but they are completely valid.

I was a Killer 2 games in a row before... And that was two games of 50+ people IIRC. Nowadays it's much more common to get a role two games in a row.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:57 am


But then again, why would Ginji PM EVERYONE telling them he's Kira, on the off chance that he might get in contact with a Shinigami? It is just MUCH too risky a move at this stage in the game, which is why I don't trust that Ginji is actually Kira, I give him just a bit more credit than that... I'd give everyone just a bit more credit than that...

And that part about the clue is kind of true... But I don't think that last clue was sent by L... I think that clue might have been sent by a shinigami, trying to help us out... Since the other clues seem so vague, yet direct, and that one just seemed like a spotlight being shone on somebody in specific... Which is why I'm going to just trust in it for now, and if I'm proven wrong... Well, then I'll apologize... >.<

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SpeQz

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:11 am


It's risky, that's exactly why it's NOT suspicious! Who would suspect someone who openly admits to being Kira? I just assumed he was taking the piss, like most people probably did.

If you're giving Ginji credit, why don't you give me credit that I wouldn't give myself away so easily? I have one clue and a whole lot of wild speculation against my name. Ginji has five clues.

I know how to play this game. If I were Kira, I wouldn't be posting like this and making myself look more suspicious. My only interest is in proving that I'm right; so if I get jailed, and the Death Note changes hands, that's still a victory in my books. wink
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:25 am


I wasn't taking any credit away from you! I just have to believe that somebody with a role wouldn't just go around telling everyone they have a role hoping that a shinigami will talk to them... And if any Shinigami actually DID trust him, then they lose a lot of credit... NO OFFENSE! But I would never trust somebody walking around claiming to be the killer... Even if they ARE the killer.

But maybe the fact that only one clue is clearly pointing at you would only mean that you are a master word manipulator!

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SpeQz

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:44 am


You still fail to acknowledge that, even ignoring the mass PM he sent out, there are four other clues quite clearly pointing towards Ginji. I suspect you're working with him to dismiss my findings.

This is quite entertaining, not gonna lie. lol
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:10 am


You should see it from the view of a non-player.

I am rolling in the suspicion right now.

It's so niiiiice.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:31 pm


SpeQz
You still fail to acknowledge that, even ignoring the mass PM he sent out, there are four other clues quite clearly pointing towards Ginji. I suspect you're working with him to dismiss my findings.

This is quite entertaining, not gonna lie. lol
I'm not failing to aknowledge anything, I'm just stating fact that you are suspicious, I know Ginji is suspicious, I just need you to know why I think you are currently more suspicious. I couldn't work with a loose Canon like Ginji, he sent out a mass PM, that is just way to crazy for my confort. So if I was working with him, which I wasn't, I would have let him go then and there... But he IS suspicious, I just want to get ky own suspicions out of the way first.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:38 pm


Derrai
You should see it from the view of a non-player.

I am rolling in the suspicion right now.

It's so niiiiice.


^This.^
This wins.

Okay, back to discussion. The clues do seem to point to Ginji, but if he was Kira, he wouldn't be that stuupid as to send a mass PM claiming to be Kira to everyone. In fact, I don't think he would send it at all, Kira will most likely either be a) reclusive, or b) discussing who Kira is and leading everyone in the wrong direction. MOST likely, not will be. My guess is that someone who gave out their name maybe Kira, due to the fact that now a Shinigami and Kira are teamed up.

Which is why SpeQz is surspicious, because even though it was a bit ago, he gave out another false name, which could have been his own so that a Shinigami could find him. Just a thought.

But Derrai, here is some more suspicioun for you to roll in. Have fun with all this surspicion.xD

Thorn Of The Sky


Ginji of Thunder

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:22 pm


I would like to think my perspective is pretty fun as well.
^_^
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:57 am


Thorn Of The Sky
Okay, back to discussion. The clues do seem to point to Ginji, but if he was Kira, he wouldn't be that stuupid as to send a mass PM claiming to be Kira to everyone.

Wow, I've already answered this. Read the thread please.

Claiming to be Kira is the last thing Kira would do, which is exactly why it's NOT suspicious, and a GREAT way to find the shinigami.

And again, right after he claimed to be Kira, the shinigami and Kira made contact.

I know I'm not great at explaining things, but you can't deny that Ginji is the most likely suspect now.

SpeQz


Thorn Of The Sky

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 am


SpeQz
Thorn Of The Sky
Okay, back to discussion. The clues do seem to point to Ginji, but if he was Kira, he wouldn't be that stuupid as to send a mass PM claiming to be Kira to everyone.

Wow, I've already answered this. Read the thread please.

Claiming to be Kira is the last thing Kira would do, which is exactly why it's NOT suspicious, and a GREAT way to find the shinigami.

And again, right after he claimed to be Kira, the shinigami and Kira made contact.

I know I'm not great at explaining things, but you can't deny that Ginji is the most likely suspect now.


I have read this thread, actually. But when I'm thinking something through, I must state it and think over it a couple of times.xD
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