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 Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:41 am
First off, thank you for coming to this thread to help me.
Ok, I am in need of a FNM deck, but I am at a loss for what to use. My competition looks like: 1W/U control, 1B/U Control, 2 Goblin, 1 Birthing Pod, 1 Green Elf Stompy, 1 Tempered Steel, and Mine. There is also a possibility that there will be a Valakut Ramp or a Vampire Deck.
My current deck is:
4 Condemn- Removal of scary s**t
4 Porcelain Legionnaire- Good 2/3rd turn play, stomps alot of stuff, and immune to GFT
1 Glint Hawk Idol- Elusive beater
2 Blinding Souleater- Defensive measure against titans
2 Inquisitor Exarch- Turn two play, that deals two
1 Livewire Lash- Fun on Titan or Torm. Soul. Also easy trigger for Bloodthirst
2 Geth's Verdict- Killer+Life Loss
1 Distress- Bomb killer
1 Stonehorn Dignitary- Defensive Staller
2 Doom Blade- It's Doom Blade.....yeah
2 Duskhunter Bat- Elusive Beater
1 Timely Reinforcements- Savior spell
1 Due Respect- Stall spell with draw
1 Sun Titan- Obvious razz
1 Cathedral Membrane- Titan slaying wall
2 Journey to Nowhere- Obvious
2 Remember the Fallen- Used to nab my Legionnaires back
3 Tormented Soul- Easy killer, plus Bloodthirst trigger
1 Blind Zealot- Titan Slayer
6 Swamps
The rest are basic plains
My Sideboard consists of:
2 Puncturing Light- Weenie kill spell, but main target is Vampire Nighthawk or WCE tokens
2 White Knight- Generic good card, effective on Grave Titan's and zombies
2 Celestial Purge- For eliminating Grave Titans, and other nasty things
1 Personal Sanctuary- Helps fight Goblins, makes all Bolt's speed 1
1 Kor Firewalker- More goblin hate
2 Shattered Angel- Control hater. Makes every land they play a blink a Tar-pit swing.
2 Revoke Existance- WCE hate and Birthing Pod hate
3 Kor Sanctifiers- More WCE and BP hate
I don't have any other Mythics, nor do I have any good spells Like Go for Throat, or Duress. I am trying to find some C/UC/R that I might be missing.
Help please!
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:30 am
Hey Hawkeye, next time you could post this in the Decklist discusssion thread in the main forums. anyways off to deck building advice.
first you need playsets (4 of a kind), because your Deck lacks enough draw spells having singletons to help with certain things it wont keep your deck consistant, you might want to ether go Agro or Control. I would suggest keeping it Monowhite if you dont have access to the good black cards seeing as a lot of the black cards that are playable standard and competetivly are rares. there are enough commons and uncommons to make a deck in mono white and that way you wont need to worry about your mana distripution. not having access to Marsh flats makes mana fixing for you very very limited.
stay away from cards like timely reinforcements. that card is strictly against agro decks and is sideboard. the bloodthirst mechanic is not competetive in standard right now, I dont know how casual you guys are but if someone is bringing Valakut and tempered steel they will probubly win.
dont use glinthawk idol. its inconsistant. I would use squadren hawks over glinthawk. what I think you could do keep the porcelain and work with that as your base. Condemn is sideboard so replace that with journy to nowhere. also run 4 Oblivian rings, because that deals with any planswalker you might run into and tiitan more efectily than blind zealot. 4 tectonic edges would be advised maindeck to deal with man-lands and Valakut. remember the fallen is good you want card advantage.
try to use a bunch of living weapons so you can chump agro and equip it onto small guys when the germ dies. that way it helps your porcelion.
dont use stonehorn, because even thou they skip their attack they still aare untapped.
soul warden is really good.
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this here is a standard deck you want cards that act this way. of course you have to go the cheap route which would be the living weapon
4 Grand Abolisher
4 Hero of Bladehold
4 Leonin Relic-Warder
2 Mirran Crusader
4 Squadron Hawk
4 Steppe Lynx
4 Student of Warfare
Enchantments
4 Honor of the Pure
4 Oblivion Ring
Instants
2 Dismember
Basic Lands
13 Plains
Lands
4 Arid Mesa
4 Marsh Flats
3 Tectonic Edge
Sideboard:
4 Leonin Arbiter
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Brave the Elements
2 Dismember
1 Divine Offering
1 Stave Off
1 Revoke Existence
4 Timely Reinforcements
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your deck in the end might look like a mixture of these two decks here without the money cards.
2 Celestial Colonnade
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Inkmoth Nexus
1 Island
8 Plains
4 Seachrome Coast
23 lands
1 Kemba, Kha Regent
4 Puresteel Paladin
4 Squadron Hawk
3 Trinket Mage
12 creatures
1 Accorder's Shield
1 Basilisk Collar
4 Dispatch
3 Flayer Husk
4 Mortarpod
2 Mox Opal
4 Preordain
1 Sword of Body and Mind
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
2 Sword of War and Peace
1 Sylvok Lifestaff
25 other spells
Sideboard
3 Dismember
4 Flashfreeze
4 Kor Firewalker
2 Negate
1 Revoke Existence
1 Spellskite
15 sideboard cards
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as for sideboard, have 4 kor firewalkers is fixes you against ALL reddecks including goblins and can race easily. also helps against B/R vampires
4 Celestial Purge because it deals with Black and also big red which uses the chandra pheonix. and its always good to remove their walkers or big dumb dorks.
4 Revoke existance. for the artifact decks like birthing pod and cawblade. even temper steel decks.
3 of hard removal spells, or you can run brave the elements which you might sideboard in which saves all your white guys and you can go in for the kill when you play it. up to your playstyle.
I hope all this information helps i know its a lot to take in and this completely takes away from your innitial decklist. I hope you fare well against tempersteel and valakut. GOOOD LUCK!
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:32 am
O and if you are going the living weapon route, you want flayer husk and mortor pod. and also 4 puresteel is a MUST
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:59 pm
I know I'm not making this easy, but I don't have:
Man-Lands
Grand Abolisher
Leonin Relic-Warder
Hero of Bladehold
Mirran Crusader
Squad Hawk(s)
Student of Warfare
Honor of the Pure
O' Rings
Dismember
Tec. Edge
Brave the Elements
Divine Offering
Stave Off
Puresteel Paladin
Trinket Mage
Accorder's Shield
Basilisk Collar
Dispatch
3 Mortarpod
Mox Opal
Preordain
Any Swords
Sylvok Lifestaff
Flashfreeze
3 Kor Firewalker
Spellskite
I do have Leonin Arbiter's, the Revoke's, and one Reinforcements. I also happen to have alot of the other Living Weapons, like Sickleslicer, Skinwing, and Strider Harness.
I don't have much going for me, but I am still trying to recover after my brother left. He had most of our good cards, and now I'm being forced to work by myself.
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:25 am
mmmkay, well hopefully it's for a FNM deck for next week, i just got back to my comp. but anyways I suggest Getting a Event Deck and building on top of it. they are only 20-30$ for one and some of them are pretty good. the one with Two stoneforges is pretty good to edit and it gives you a lot the white cards that you are lacking. of course stone forge is banned in standard but you would be able to make the white equipement decks more easily. they also have all/most of the cards i mentioned.
It really sucks that your bro has taken all the good cards but its something you would need to invest in the long run. you can also try to just wait it out and get the inistrade event decks if you want something more long term. how much money are you willing to actually spend? how old are you and the people you are playing with and how hard core is your cardshop??
I ask because i I come from a very competetive Card shop with people who have Propoints and junk for DCI. so my deck advice come from the more expensive side. anyways I do suggest if you want the cheaper route, getting event decks they are not too bad in casual FNM cardshops. they wouldnt fare too well in the enviornment I'm in though. its much cheaper than to build a decklist from online and easier to get compare to tradding riggerlessly for them.
YOu should try to use ally colored decks they are much easier than cards that are opposite, use things like UW, BU, BR, RG, GW. also the duel lands in M12 are very very cheap and easy to get a hold of through trades
If you dont want to buy more cards then I suggest using the living weapon route anyways and play in a more controlling way. the living weapons cards you mentioned that you have are decent. the the other ones i've mentioned are commons and uncommons so they should be easy to find if you ask a friend for the cards.
Good luck hope this information helps a bit.
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:54 am
Ironically enough, I have been playing since Tenth Edition.......
My problem with using Allied collor decks is I have little to no good blue cards, all my green cards are solidly green based, and by red is scarce. My local card shop isn't know for it's competitive players, but we do have a few(BPod and Tempered Steel). I am 15, and all but one of my opponents is 18+
I have invested lots of money in magic......whenever I get packs, I just open up trashy things like Immolating Soul Eaters, and Psychic Surgerys. I don't but event decks, because It's just too much money at one time.
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:19 pm
HawkEye4736 Ironically enough, I have been playing since Tenth Edition....... My problem with using Allied collor decks is I have little to no good blue cards, all my green cards are solidly green based, and by red is scarce. My local card shop isn't know for it's competitive players, but we do have a few(BPod and Tempered Steel). I am 15, and all but one of my opponents is 18+ I have invested lots of money in magic......whenever I get packs, I just open up trashy things like Immolating Soul Eaters, and Psychic Surgerys. I don't but event decks, because It's just too much money at one time. i suggest saving up for one then, because you really do get a GOOD deck to start out with on FNM. you also get more playsets of better cards. its hard for younger players to get into it because you guys dont have too much money on your hands compared to the 18+ year olds. maybe ask for some free commons and uncommons. my cardshop has a free bin like that for new magic players
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