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VenusRain

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:18 am


So! I am writing Yet Another Stupid Romance. But I've run into an unexpected snag in the writing: Namely, I don't have any frame of reference for writing an asexual romance. I don't mean a story where sex doesn't happen, by the by, I mean one where at least one of the characters is an asexual and the characters are genuinely happy with the relationship.

ANYWAY i am trying to make it clear that the characters love each other when the asexual character not only is disinterested in sex but is uncomfortable with kissing, but since nobody writes that sort of thing at all I have no clue if the message will get across and aaaaaaaaaugh. gonk it probably doesn't help that the characters can't make physical contact. WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF

tl;dr, wat do
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:00 pm


Write said asexual character as less of a caricature of asexuals.

That may help.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:12 pm


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Write said asexual character as less of a caricature of asexuals.

That may help.


...Why are you saying is he a caricature? I am genuinely curious about this, given that I've not given you much to go on.

If you're saying that the kissing thing is a caricature, i really don't consider it such, but I'll admit that I've not asked if kissing is unpleasant to consider to other asexuals. I do know that I find the very concept of kissing someone revolting.

If it's the physical contact... The asexual guy is a Barrier Maiden. Taking him out of his containment thing would not only in all likelyhood kill him, but also cause the area it's set in to go to hell in a handbasket. "Cannot have actual physical contact" is not an exaggeration, and his status as barrier maiden is a key plot point. neutral a Probably should have explained that, but eh.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:31 pm


VenusRain
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Write said asexual character as less of a caricature of asexuals.

That may help.


...Why are you saying is he a caricature? I am genuinely curious about this, given that I've not given you much to go on.

If you're saying that the kissing thing is a caricature, i really don't consider it such, but I'll admit that I've not asked if kissing is unpleasant to consider to other asexuals. I do know that I find the very concept of kissing someone revolting.

If it's the physical contact... The asexual guy is a Barrier Maiden. Taking him out of his containment thing would not only in all likelyhood kill him, but also cause the area it's set in to go to hell in a handbasket. "Cannot have actual physical contact" is not an exaggeration, and his status as barrier maiden is a key plot point. neutral a Probably should have explained that, but eh.


Yeah, you should have explained the physical contact thing, because that was the final touch that made it a caricature. You went from asexual has no interest in sex (obvious, therefore a perfectly reasonable trait), to asexual has an aversion to kissing (reasonable enough as some have that), to what seemed to be a complete lack of desire for physical contact (kind of ridiculous, and an exaggeration of asexuality to a point that hits caricature in such a manner that it begins to dehumanize them, even though it's not an acknowledged trait of asexuality, but rather of social dysfunction).

If this isn't the case, then you don't have that problem (obviously).

Well, consider how you would write platonic love, and take a more "you complete me" sort of angle on it, with a bit of finding great beauty in the other person. That's about how I could describe romantic love. Really, kissing and sex have nothing to do with love, and they don't provide evidence of it at all.

The message might not get across. That's a risk you have to take. It often doesn't when you write any kind of love, and more often gets confused for another kind.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:43 pm


I figured that the "can't" would be taken as "impossible"; you know, like the word actually means? If I meant that the guy had an aversion to touch, I would have said he dislikes physical contact, not that they can't touch ever. cat_neutral I'd wonder about what made you think that's what I meant, but then I remembered that there's bound to be someone who'd use it like that somewhere, even though it's blatantly wrong.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:24 pm


VenusRain
I figured that the "can't" would be taken as "impossible"; you know, like the word actually means? If I meant that the guy had an aversion to touch, I would have said he dislikes physical contact, not that they can't touch ever. cat_neutral I'd wonder about what made you think that's what I meant, but then I remembered that there's bound to be someone who'd use it like that somewhere, even though it's blatantly wrong.


Much as I appreciate your sardonic wit and rudeness, realize that "can't" does not get used to mean literally impossible in most usage. Colloquial usage is a very important thing to take into account, and is not "blatantly wrong."

Next time, I will refrain from making any attempt to help you.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:08 pm


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VenusRain
I figured that the "can't" would be taken as "impossible"; you know, like the word actually means? If I meant that the guy had an aversion to touch, I would have said he dislikes physical contact, not that they can't touch ever. cat_neutral I'd wonder about what made you think that's what I meant, but then I remembered that there's bound to be someone who'd use it like that somewhere, even though it's blatantly wrong.


Much as I appreciate your sardonic wit and rudeness, realize that "can't" does not get used to mean literally impossible in most usage. Colloquial usage is a very important thing to take into account, and is not "blatantly wrong."

Next time, I will refrain from making any attempt to help you.


And nothing about the sentence implied that colloquial usage was in effect. There is nothing about my usage of the word can't that would indicate that I was using it an any other manner than the proper use of the word. At the very least, i would have expected you to ask for the meaning if you weren't sure.

Go ahead. I doubt it'll make much of a difference to the amount of responses most of the topics here get (e.g. none).
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:55 pm


And I would have expected you to be less of a raging b***h to someone who took their time to try to help.

But nope. Just got b***h.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:23 pm


:3
at last, love for the aesexuals!

the key to a successful and happy asexual romance/relationship is that it's based on emotional bonding and mental stimulation (funness and the ability to converse meaningfully, perhaps they would share spiritual views aswell to some extent or another). It's like being exclusive bestest bros ever with the added comfort of extra protectiveness and understanding. There would also be an element of 'just being around you is enough' to convey feeling.

almost like the relationship every girl says she wants, but almost never actually ends up with.

The physical aspects of the relationship would be more subtle, hand holding or touching or a one armed hugs or private cuddles on a couch, it is likely that ift he asexual in question is also not a fan of touching in general that any that would happen would be rare but they would mean exponentially more to both the giver and the recipiant.

theres room for variation of course because of personal preferances, but should help.

There are also a few websites you could look up to further research it but they might be somewhat hard to find because of how few of us there are.
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