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 Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:04 am
Ok ..... Sis, Daddy... Our master plan to have us already be in power when RP started was thwarted when the war got moved up to the present for RP instead of as an explanation of how we got in power. Sooooo, now what do we do? xD
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:16 am
Sailor Charoite Ok ..... Sis, Daddy... Our master plan to have us already be in power when RP started was thwarted when the war got moved up to the present for RP instead of as an explanation of how we got in power. Sooooo, now what do we do? xD I suggest we wing it
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:24 am
Cosmic Sailor Rubi Sailor Charoite Ok ..... Sis, Daddy... Our master plan to have us already be in power when RP started was thwarted when the war got moved up to the present for RP instead of as an explanation of how we got in power. Sooooo, now what do we do? xD I suggest we wing it I'm thinking we need to spend season one getting it established. ninja That requires some sort of plan though xD
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:23 am
*Is gonna pay attention to this thread cause it effects a character of mine. <<; *
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:48 am
Rei Torano *Is gonna pay attention to this thread cause it effects a character of mine. <<; *
"*Stalks thread with you*  I am also affected by events that happen here :3 "
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:12 pm
Weee stalkers... now where's my Big Sister ninja
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:21 am
Suggestion then- Given with how the world is in RL, it wouldn't be inconceivable for the Earth Kingdom to be established in 2012. Then all the presidents/prime minsters and ect are all kinda like Reps for each country or run said countries (depending on which country would be easiest to deal with. Have a feeling the states and mid-east wouldn't be so easy to sway so they could be the hold outs if you wanna swing it that way)
answer to the Golden Kingdom/Earth Kingdom.
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:01 am
Rei Torano Suggestion then- Given with how the world is in RL, it wouldn't be inconceivable for the Earth Kingdom to be established in 2012. Then all the presidents/prime minsters and ect are all kinda like Reps for each country or run said countries (depending on which country would be easiest to deal with. Have a feeling the states and mid-east wouldn't be so easy to sway so they could be the hold outs if you wanna swing it that way) answer to the Golden Kingdom/Earth Kingdom. Governments don't give up sovereignty unless under the threat of overwhelming consequences. Even when it's inevitable, leaders cling to power, often to the detriment of their people. Which is why I suggested the war in the first place....kill off the governments....make new ones under Mamaru... Which everyone loved... but it got moved up the timeline xD Americans in particular wouldn't submit to foreign leadership, even if it was benevolent. We're a little annoyed the UN tries to tell us what to do occasionally. Not that it works, if they don't approve a military action, we do it anyways. The only way Senshi are going to come to power, is either A) They take it forcefully B) They have it thrust it on them after a major magical event. Now I could see Mamaru being elected Prime Minister of Japan after Galaxia... IF the human population remembers what happens. (anyone know?) The might give him some leverage to upsurp more power during this war as we blow up as many governments as possible ninja
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:20 am
I am here.I am open for anything really so whatever is decided is fine.
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( Sorry I have been busy)
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:45 am
Sailor Charoite Rei Torano Suggestion then- Given with how the world is in RL, it wouldn't be inconceivable for the Earth Kingdom to be established in 2012. Then all the presidents/prime minsters and ect are all kinda like Reps for each country or run said countries (depending on which country would be easiest to deal with. Have a feeling the states and mid-east wouldn't be so easy to sway so they could be the hold outs if you wanna swing it that way) answer to the Golden Kingdom/Earth Kingdom. Governments don't give up sovereignty unless under the threat of overwhelming consequences. Even when it's inevitable, leaders cling to power, often to the detriment of their people. Which is why I suggested the war in the first place....kill off the governments....make new ones under Mamaru... Which everyone loved... but it got moved up the timeline xD Americans in particular wouldn't submit to foreign leadership, even if it was benevolent. We're a little annoyed the UN tries to tell us what to do occasionally. Not that it works, if they don't approve a military action, we do it anyways. The only way Senshi are going to come to power, is either A) They take it forcefully B) They have it thrust it on them after a major magical event. Now I could see Mamaru being elected Prime Minister of Japan after Galaxia... IF the human population remembers what happens. (anyone know?) The might give him some leverage to upsurp more power during this war as we blow up as many governments as possible ninja Considering I'm proposing it happening before the year of the RP (which is what? 2026? Or is it later?) he could have a nice size following. After all, he can't really run everything. Even in the comics, it was delegated to the four Kings who ran their terrirotires under his Kingdom who then must've had other smaller kingdoms within their sectors. Pretty much kinda like a fedual system. Not saying everyone has to submit. (I am completely convinced that a good chunk of the Black Moon Clan's military and technology may have not only come from Japan but the States and probably a few others.) But given, we're in a ficitional world, he could have gotten a lot of followers and the like. Not to mention, demonstrating what he could do for them too. (though I always thought Mamoru was a very eloquent speaker.) But yeah, why not 2012 when he could have gotten something to sway a lot of the world leaders to his side? After all, everyone now is utterly convinced the world is ending (well not everyone but there's a large following in that) and there's a lot of unrest, climate changes - which was the original reason why NQSerenity and King Endymion took over in the first place. Any of those or all of them together can make it quite possible even if the country itself is stubborn. You don't need necessarily to convince the people but the leaders that it is in the country's best interest to do it. Plus, they get to retain their power more or less. He doesn't need to change their laws or add rules other then to see him and his family as sovereign over them. Kinda like how Britain is run. they acknowledge the queen and royal family but for the most part none of them have any say in how the country is run unless it is utterly dire. Since we're having a War that's suppose to happen soon, then that could also help unite some of the countries with whatever Mamoru's family is ruling at the time. But, considering Saphir's goal is to bring Nemesis back and I think to basically axe the Moon Family at the same time, I don't see how it would particularly interest Earth too much. Considering Earth was a pretty much almost isolation-type of Planet. (Even though it's been noted that the Earth kingdom borrowed some soldiers from Venus in Canon.) *waves hand* Anyway, just saying it's a possibility and we can fudge it a bit. Though this could also be a way that Saphir gets more footsoldiers. Not his senshi of course, but others from these places that feel that old "They are spying on us from up there!" paranoia. Just saying is all D: It would give the Biyotik an excuse to be on Earth at random intervals and to add a little more intrigue.
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:16 am
Rei Torano Considering I'm proposing it happening before the year of the RP (which is what? 2026? Or is it later?) he could have a nice size following. After all, he can't really run everything. Even in the comics, it was delegated to the four Kings who ran their terrirotires under his Kingdom who then must've had other smaller kingdoms within their sectors. Pretty much kinda like a fedual system. Not saying everyone has to submit. (I am completely convinced that a good chunk of the Black Moon Clan's military and technology may have not only come from Japan but the States and probably a few others.) But given, we're in a ficitional world, he could have gotten a lot of followers and the like. Not to mention, demonstrating what he could do for them too. (though I always thought Mamoru was a very eloquent speaker.) But yeah, why not 2012 when he could have gotten something to sway a lot of the world leaders to his side? After all, everyone now is utterly convinced the world is ending (well not everyone but there's a large following in that) and there's a lot of unrest, climate changes - which was the original reason why NQSerenity and King Endymion took over in the first place. Any of those or all of them together can make it quite possible even if the country itself is stubborn. You don't need necessarily to convince the people but the leaders that it is in the country's best interest to do it. Plus, they get to retain their power more or less. He doesn't need to change their laws or add rules other then to see him and his family as sovereign over them. Kinda like how Britain is run. they acknowledge the queen and royal family but for the most part none of them have any say in how the country is run unless it is utterly dire. Since we're having a War that's suppose to happen soon, then that could also help unite some of the countries with whatever Mamoru's family is ruling at the time. But, considering Saphir's goal is to bring Nemesis back and I think to basically axe the Moon Family at the same time, I don't see how it would particularly interest Earth too much. Considering Earth was a pretty much almost isolation-type of Planet. (Even though it's been noted that the Earth kingdom borrowed some soldiers from Venus in Canon.) *waves hand* Anyway, just saying it's a possibility and we can fudge it a bit. Though this could also be a way that Saphir gets more footsoldiers. Not his senshi of course, but others from these places that feel that old "They are spying on us from up there!" paranoia. Just saying is all D: It would give the Biyotik an excuse to be on Earth at random intervals and to add a little more intrigue. Going woth this and the idea of a magical accident what if the gemstone sensh from around the world were each eventually put into infuenciel positions in their respective contries. with that they submit to Mamaru and so the golden kingdom is essablished. All the governments aer still there in the countries respec but they all answer to the kingdom.
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:23 pm
I'm not clear on what you're suggesting.
2012 would be too soon for him to have established world wide power. As much as we wine about the state of things, Governments are too Stable right now for one person to up-surp power suddenly. You have to do it subtly...(kinda like the US did before George Bush. WEEEE economic Imperialism)
While I could see some of the more.. backward countries submitting to outright magical ruler ship... I don't see any of the first/second world ones submitting peacefully. Honestly, if the U.S. Government ever got a hold of a seshi, they'd probably be sent to secret labs and be experimented on. We're too dangerous.
Also, I don't see Mamaru as the imperialist kind. Any power he gains is going to be done reluctantly.
Here's what I'm thinking:
2012) Mamaru was elected to Prime Minister in 2012...(Which makes sense since Japan just had a string of disasters, he could easily get power right now) Then we have 14 years of history we can write that can give us a reason for Japan to rise to dominance.
2013) We can even claim that the US Economy finally crashes in.. lets say... 2013.. leading to a global economy meltdown. Under economic tensions, China and the US start WW3.
2013-2015) Japan refuses to enter war, but resestablishes a standing army. Instead aids humanitarian efforts on both sides. Senshi work hard to ensure war remains non-nuclear. Becomes an economic powerhouse as it has most of the worlds un-bombed factories.
2016) Japan aids in Peace talks and WW3 ends. At the UNs insistence Both the US and China give up the majority of their holdings in the pacific.
2017-20) Japan helps with rebuilding. Many small pacific countries choose to be Annexed. China starts acting aggressively toward Japan. But before they can act, China erupts in Civil war. The US and Japan intercedes, and by 2020 the country is split between a communist west and a capitalist east. Japan assumes leadership in the eastern region.
2021-2025) Japans economic growth continues as China and the US rebuild.
Edit: Well what Nemesis needs is on earth. Soooo it will affect earth. And the Magna never says how they came to power, just that they did. As for the gemstones.. we're all babys in 2012. xD. Or not born yet. If we take positions of power, it's not going to be untill well after this war. We're all just too young.
Where are you seeing this bit about 4 Kings? There's 4 generals... not Kings.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:47 pm
That's their title, the Four Kings, not generals. Shitennou translates as "Four Heavenly Kings" and they ruled over four sections of the earth. I was just saying how it could've been back under the Golden Kingdom.
I never said the US would've submitted. I'm just saying, some countries would've fallen under their rule because it would've been better then what they had. I honestly doubt that Mamoru and his family (Comics or not) could be able to rule the entire earth. It's just too vast with too many things going on at once. A portion of the world? Yeah. Maybe a few more islands? I can see it.
Not sure which islands, though.
Either way, he would have some power. Which is plausible enough for anything to work.
As for the Earth thing, ok. Granted they have some reason to go to earth.(I..don't remember what it was. What was it?) But I can see them recruiting people too that are disgruntled at someone getting their nation 'defanged'. *There are radicals everywhere.*
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:23 am
-IICharonII- That's their title, the Four Kings, not generals. Shitennou translates as "Four Heavenly Kings" and they ruled over four sections of the earth. I was just saying how it could've been back under the Golden Kingdom. I never said the US would've submitted. I'm just saying, some countries would've fallen under their rule because it would've been better then what they had. I honestly doubt that Mamoru and his family (Comics or not) could be able to rule the entire earth. It's just too vast with too many things going on at once. A portion of the world? Yeah. Maybe a few more islands? I can see it. Not sure which islands, though. Either way, he would have some power. Which is plausible enough for anything to work. As for the Earth thing, ok. Granted they have some reason to go to earth.(I..don't remember what it was. What was it?) But I can see them recruiting people too that are disgruntled at someone getting their nation 'defanged'. *There are radicals everywhere.* or really? I didn't know that. I'll have to do some more research into them. I believe they're coming to Earth for something to help reserect Sailor Nemesis with. As for ruling an entire planet not being possible, No Monarch handles all the day to day affairs of a kingdom. No level of government is able to do that. That's why we have City, County, State and Federal Governments. I'm sure at some point we'll have a world government. Frankly we'll be a step closer soon with Europe starting to consolidate power. (Germany might finally achieve continental domination thanks to this economy collapse. This time reluctantly. ) But yeah, without some sort of Huge event, there's no way he'll have consolidated the entire planet by the time the war starts. Parts of the pacific, probably, but no more then that. -Sailor Charoite
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