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Neville Longbottom Captain
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 Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:33 pm
Here you can post all of your Neville theories. I have a million and one theories, and you will be amazed at the extensiveness of my obsession. I'll start off slowly though, and once I have others to talk to, I'll go full on with my theories. I don't want to scare anybody...
Edit: Actually, post just your small theories here. If it's a big theory, or really well thought out, make a thread.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:18 am
No, no! Please, tell us jor theories!
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Neville Longbottom Captain
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:29 pm
Small theory #1:
(This was on Mugglecast, episode 9 I think... by me.)
Well, JKR said that Neville and Luna would have a bigger role in the last two books. Luna didn't have a big role really, only as comic relief, and Neville had close to none (introducing his wand, talking here and there, and making me think he was freaking DEAD!)
Soo... Neville and Luna probably are going to have a pretty big role in book 7, hopefully helping Harry out in some way or another. They are also the only two who kept their DA coins. That isn't a little insignifigant thing. It has meaning. Because there is nothing insignifigant in Harry Potter... except Mark Evans.
Obviously the Trio will be working together, and most likely Ginny will join them, because she'd never leave Harry or abandon her brother. That's four people. Adding Neville and Luna makes 6.
There are 7 books, 7 horcruxes, 7 everything because 7 is the most magical number in the world! If my theory is right about the 6, then there logically should be a seventh person. But who?
I don't think Draco, as I don't like the thought of him redeming himself. He knew what he was getting into, he's an adult, etc... I just can't think of a seventh person who could be helpful enough to be a seventh person. Perhaps Sirius's ghost or something... I don't know.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:57 pm
Yes, seven is a pretty number and it's perfectly plausible. Personally, I don't think Draco had realistic expetations about what he was getting into, but joining Harry? Uh-uh.
Maybe Susan Bones, to continue in the tradition of inter-House solidarity minus those slimy Slytherins?
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:01 pm
That would make me happy. Or Zacharius Smith... because I like him... because he stands up for what he believes in.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:13 pm
Yeah, Zacharias Smith put Lee Jordan into perspective.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:34 pm
Neville Longbottom. As Harry Potter analysts, we can all agree that there is something special about Harry's round, forgetful friend. J.K. Rowling does not introduce a main character for no reason, and Neville is no exception. We learned that he is an integral part of the septology, perhaps holding a vital key to secrets we are dying to know. Many Potter analysts take for granted certain aspects of Neville's role after OotP. We "know" that there is probably something buried deep within his memory that will eventually fill in a large plot gap. We know this because he has a bad memory and there are many references in the books that explain that a poor memory is a result of a previous memory charm being put on someone. Which leads us to what we don't know-what is Neville's memory hiding? OotP gave us a few more clues. We were shown what happened to Neville's parents and lamented that they were hit with the Cruciatus Curse. However, this only led to more questions that remain unanswered for the time being. Why were Neville's parents tortured? Why would Crouch Jr. and the LeStranges assume they were the key to finding Voldemort? Is it the same reason that someone put a memory charm on Neville? More importantly, is Voldemort after Neville because of what he knows? I argue yes, Neville knows something and Voldemort wants it kept hidden. In GoF, there is a subtle hint that took me about eight readings to uncover. In the chapter, "The Unforgivable Curses," the fake Mad-Eye Moody takes it upon himself to teach the fourteen-year-olds the scariest curses there are. He demonstrates the Imperius Curse, which is amusing to the kids. He then demonstrates the Cruciatus Curse, which adversely affected Neville. Hermione had to yell at Moody to stop, because "Neville's hands were clenched upon the desk in front of him, his knuckles white, his eyes wide and horrified" (GoF, 215). We now know why. Or do we? We assume once we read OotP that it is because he is flashing back to when his parents were tortured if he was there, or at least imagining what it was like if he was not. However, what if his reaction was not only because he witnessed his parents' torture, but because seeing the curse tapped into subconscious memories that were erased? Did the curse performed in front of him unlock the secret that is hidden in Neville's mind? If this is true, it creates a whole torrent of new questions-and answers. After the class, Neville is clearly shaken up. Harry, who had just witnessed the curse that killed his parents, is not even that frazzled. Neville says in an "unnaturally high voice" to Hermione, who noticed his odd mood, "Oh yes, I'm fine. Very interesting dinner-I mean lesson-what's for eating?" It is not characteristic of Neville to mix up his words like that, especially in front of his closest friends. At that moment, instead of allowing Neville to answer his friends, the fake Moody sweeps him away in what seems like a caring gesture, but even dim-witted Neville thinks something is wrong. He "looked pleadingly" at his friends, like he did not want to go with his teacher. We later learn that Moody provided Neville with the Herbology book, which has a double meaning. Fake Moody planted it to help Harry win the tournament, but it raises a more important question-why does Moody know that Neville is good at Herbology? The answer is written for us-he spoke with Professor Sprout. But why? Do Hogwarts teachers routinely discuss students with each other? (GoF 218-220) I think that fake Moody took Neville away from his friends in the nick of time. The curse triggered the memory that had been erased, which Voldemort wants hidden. It is most likely the secret for which the Longbottom parents were tortured and gave their sanity. Fake Moody had been doing research on Neville, under Voldemort's orders, to ensure that whatever is in his head does not leak out. He realized what the curse had done to Neville and ushered him off to his office to "readjust" Neville's memory. The final question that this episode raises occurs back in the first chapter of GoF. Voldemort, addressing Wormtail, declares, "One more murder...Harry Potter is as good as mine." Who were they planning to kill? They weren't planning to kill Crouch or Cedric, so who was it? It is a question that has always plagued me. Could it be Neville? Recap: Neville's memory had been modified because he knows something of value to Voldemort and when he saw the Cruciatus Curse performed on the spider, it was triggered in his subconscious. Fake Moody knew about it and re-modified Neville's memory when it looked like he might spill. Also, who was supposed to die in Voldemort's plan and could it have been our beloved Neville Longbottom? 
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:12 pm
Teachers regularly discuss other students, including in real life. A normal high school has well over 2000 to 3000 students in it. That's only 4 grades of students. And teachers discuss to one another what students do. They will either talk of the students who excell in their class, or b***h about the worst, stupidest, meanest students. There are only about 1000 students in Hogwarts. And they all share common teachers. It would not surprise me if Sprout and 'Moody' were talking about Neville. She could have been praising him, as 'Moody' was wondering about his poor grades in other classes.
As for why the Longbottoms? Well, there were well known Aurors. Perhaps they weren't only hitting up the Longbottoms for information. The answer I want to know is was this before or after the fall of Voldemort? I would assume after. If afterwards, they'd probably try to get as much information to anybody that would be close to the Potters. The Longbottoms and the Potters were both in the order, and the two couples had both faced Lord Voldemort, and survived him 3 times. So, obviously they were most likely fighting together. If I were looking for my evil master, I'd definitly start with those who fought with the ones that 'destroyed' him.
(I love you hp-lexicon!)
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:24 am
Why people would want to kill the longbottoms? They were just as desirable to be killed as the potters, they each had the three stoke. So that would be a reason why, which they, thank god, put right in frount of my nose while hitting my head with the infomatoin. But I like the Moody theory. Any yes, teachers do talk to teachers about students. My dad is a teacher, I stay after every frieday to help my art teacher with matting pictures for the upcomming art show and there are always several teachers there, swapping stories...
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:46 am
lokerruff Neville Longbottom. As Harry Potter analysts, we can all agree that there is something special about Harry's round, forgetful friend. J.K. Rowling does not introduce a main character for no reason, and Neville is no exception. We learned that he is an integral part of the septology, perhaps holding a vital key to secrets we are dying to know. Many Potter analysts take for granted certain aspects of Neville's role after OotP. We "know" that there is probably something buried deep within his memory that will eventually fill in a large plot gap. We know this because he has a bad memory and there are many references in the books that explain that a poor memory is a result of a previous memory charm being put on someone. Which leads us to what we don't know-what is Neville's memory hiding? OotP gave us a few more clues. We were shown what happened to Neville's parents and lamented that they were hit with the Cruciatus Curse. However, this only led to more questions that remain unanswered for the time being. Why were Neville's parents tortured? Why would Crouch Jr. and the LeStranges assume they were the key to finding Voldemort? Is it the same reason that someone put a memory charm on Neville? More importantly, is Voldemort after Neville because of what he knows? I argue yes, Neville knows something and Voldemort wants it kept hidden. In GoF, there is a subtle hint that took me about eight readings to uncover. In the chapter, "The Unforgivable Curses," the fake Mad-Eye Moody takes it upon himself to teach the fourteen-year-olds the scariest curses there are. He demonstrates the Imperius Curse, which is amusing to the kids. He then demonstrates the Cruciatus Curse, which adversely affected Neville. Hermione had to yell at Moody to stop, because "Neville's hands were clenched upon the desk in front of him, his knuckles white, his eyes wide and horrified" (GoF, 215). We now know why. Or do we? We assume once we read OotP that it is because he is flashing back to when his parents were tortured if he was there, or at least imagining what it was like if he was not. However, what if his reaction was not only because he witnessed his parents' torture, but because seeing the curse tapped into subconscious memories that were erased? Did the curse performed in front of him unlock the secret that is hidden in Neville's mind? If this is true, it creates a whole torrent of new questions-and answers. After the class, Neville is clearly shaken up. Harry, who had just witnessed the curse that killed his parents, is not even that frazzled. Neville says in an "unnaturally high voice" to Hermione, who noticed his odd mood, "Oh yes, I'm fine. Very interesting dinner-I mean lesson-what's for eating?" It is not characteristic of Neville to mix up his words like that, especially in front of his closest friends. At that moment, instead of allowing Neville to answer his friends, the fake Moody sweeps him away in what seems like a caring gesture, but even dim-witted Neville thinks something is wrong. He "looked pleadingly" at his friends, like he did not want to go with his teacher. We later learn that Moody provided Neville with the Herbology book, which has a double meaning. Fake Moody planted it to help Harry win the tournament, but it raises a more important question-why does Moody know that Neville is good at Herbology? The answer is written for us-he spoke with Professor Sprout. But why? Do Hogwarts teachers routinely discuss students with each other? (GoF 218-220) I think that fake Moody took Neville away from his friends in the nick of time. The curse triggered the memory that had been erased, which Voldemort wants hidden. It is most likely the secret for which the Longbottom parents were tortured and gave their sanity. Fake Moody had been doing research on Neville, under Voldemort's orders, to ensure that whatever is in his head does not leak out. He realized what the curse had done to Neville and ushered him off to his office to "readjust" Neville's memory. The final question that this episode raises occurs back in the first chapter of GoF. Voldemort, addressing Wormtail, declares, "One more murder...Harry Potter is as good as mine." Who were they planning to kill? They weren't planning to kill Crouch or Cedric, so who was it? It is a question that has always plagued me. Could it be Neville? Recap: Neville's memory had been modified because he knows something of value to Voldemort and when he saw the Cruciatus Curse performed on the spider, it was triggered in his subconscious. Fake Moody knew about it and re-modified Neville's memory when it looked like he might spill. Also, who was supposed to die in Voldemort's plan and could it have been our beloved Neville Longbottom? That's it! idea That's why Neville fears Snape! He used to be a Death Eater, remember. He may hold Neville's fear over him because he has valuable information that they don't want let out. Snape keeps him intimidated so he won't tell other people. That's what happened at St. Mungos. He didn't tell, so his grandmother did.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:54 am
One problem. If his mind was erased, how would he have known the curse to begin with. If he didn't remember his parents' being tortured, then he wouldn't have known the answer, and the curse wouldn't have been performed purposely in front of him. If he had raised his hand after the curse was performed, then that would be suspicious of being a triggered forgotten memory.
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:58 am
I don't quite think his mind was erased. Possibly something to make him not relive the terrible day, but it might have gone too far, or maybe too many dreamless sleeping potions that were made wrong or something. Or perhaps nothing magical happened. He's pretty ******** up in the mind. A lot of people with tragic problems build up more and more. Perhaps he is so forgetful because he doesn't believe the things he forgets are important enough to remember. I know I do that (fights with my boyfriend, things I have said to him that I have completely forgotten, but he remembers and piles them all up on me months later. eff that...)
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:10 pm
Neville Longbottom Teachers regularly discuss other students, including in real life. A normal high school has well over 2000 to 3000 students in it. That's only 4 grades of students. And teachers discuss to one another what students do. They will either talk of the students who excell in their class, or b***h about the worst, stupidest, meanest students. There are only about 1000 students in Hogwarts. And they all share common teachers. It would not surprise me if Sprout and 'Moody' were talking about Neville. She could have been praising him, as 'Moody' was wondering about his poor grades in other classes. As for why the Longbottoms? Well, there were well known Aurors. Perhaps they weren't only hitting up the Longbottoms for information. The answer I want to know is was this before or after the fall of Voldemort? I would assume after. If afterwards, they'd probably try to get as much information to anybody that would be close to the Potters. The Longbottoms and the Potters were both in the order, and the two couples had both faced Lord Voldemort, and survived him 3 times. So, obviously they were most likely fighting together. If I were looking for my evil master, I'd definitly start with those who fought with the ones that 'destroyed' him. (I love you hp-lexicon!) Yeah... The extent of your thought process in the theorys is a bit frightning. eek
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:56 am
Thank you! (Vegyangel=Neville Longbottom)
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:52 am
Well when I said erased, I meant just a forgotten memory charm or something. They wouldn't erase his whole memory, because if they did, he would be what they call a "happy camper." He wouldn't remember any trauma in his past. He's still miserable all the time so they couldn't have erased all of it.
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