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Poor Saint Jimmy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:19 pm


Well Guild mates it's that time of the year when everybody makes their banlist prediction.

I thought I'd share my thoughts with you guys. So here it goes:

Banned:
Wind-Up Hunter: While it's true that Wind-Ups aren't very successful in the OCG Wind-ups till have a very powerful loop at their disposal. Even though it is easier to pull with all TCG exclusives we have it is still a problem. Some may argue that Hunter is in reality a bad card and that it should be Zenmaity that should be Limited but I would rather let Hunter go, because not only does it kill the loop but it also leaves Wind-Ups' competitive potential unscathed. They would go from a hand control deck to an Xyz spam deck which is what I like to believe was the intention when they were created. Hunter punishes you for trying to use your resources carefully, which shouldn't happen.

Inzektor Hornet: Again, some people argue that Dragonfly should be limited and Centipede Semi'd instead, but again, hitting those two kills Inzektors while banning Hornet still leaves them competitive potential with Ladybug. Hornet punishes you for playing cards which is something that shouldn't be so easy to repeat and give a +4 to your opponent every turn..

Limited:
Light-Pulsar Dragon: Limiting this card prevents hurts Chaos Dragons without having to ban Future Fusion. Pulling off the REDMD+LPD combo won't be as easy if they're harder to draw.

Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon: Another pivotal card in Chaos Dragons, what's up with me? Am I going to completely tear them to shreds with this prediction? No, not intentionally at least. Limiting REDMD wounds the Hieratic OTK without killing the deck like limiting Atum(Limiting him would prove how suicidal Hieratics are) would. Now, some of you Dragon enthusiasts may hate me for wanting him limited (ArcA Fox) but I really think it would help the game's health.

Dark Magician of Chaos: Yeah, yeah.. I know he was part of a super broken combo back in the old days. Just look at it from Konami's point of view. The other pieces to the combo are banned and "DMoC" would really help out the new Prophecy Archetype coming out. Unbanning him will boost their sales and all Konami really wants is to fill their pockets.

Snoww, Unlight of Dark World: Yes, this is a very good card. It basically says "Search whatever you want" in Dark Worlds. Konami always hits consistency first so that's why I think this will be punished and not Grapha.

Glow-Up Bulb: Let's be honest, this was banned by Konami to promote Xyzs and kill synchro decks. Lonefire Blossom should have been banned not Glow-Up.

Semi-Limited:
Rescue Rabbit: Some of you guys might want this little guy banned. Others may want his best friend Evolzar Laggia bannedbut in reality neither deserves it. Why? Hey now, I'm not a Dino-Rabbit player but Laggia kicked away from the game makes Evolzaurs useless. And quite honestly, Rabbit is a fairly well designed card. It is a bad card compared to his predecessor, Rescue Cat and it doesn't help Rabbit that Priority isn't here anymore to cover its back. It is other cards that make it such an issue today which reminds me of...

Tour Guide of the Underworld: This card is so... Troublesome. Drawing it equals an instant Xyz most of the time and in Dino Rabbits it equals a Leviar which in change equals another Dolkka or Laggia. This card is insanely splashable and semi-limiting it hits its consistency without making it useless. It's true that it is a TCG exclusive, but I don't think that's gonna save it from what it deserves.

E - Emergency Call: Heroes are doing well in the OCG and Konami always hits consistency first. They can still do well with just two of these.

Miracle Fusion: Another hit to Heroes, it won't kill them to lose one of these.

Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind: Alright, alright.. This may seem a little too biased to some of you coming from your Blackwing-using captain, but Blackwings have been dead for a long time. They were completely killed by previous lists and could use the boost.

No longer in the list:
Reborn Tengu: Nobody uses this card anymore. I haven't seen it played in months.

Magic Cylinder: Same as Tengu.

Well, that's all I can think of for now. You guys feel free to comment or post your own lists, I want to know what you think!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:21 pm


I pretty much agree with Jimmy's predictions with just a few additions

Banned

Bronic: I was honestly surprised he wasn't banned last list considering i've seen him played way more often and that Trish was banned instead. He's fairly easy to get out in any typical syncro deck and his effect majorly kills opponents

Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the beginning: Not even sure why he was unbanned to begin with. Even being limited it's easy to bring him out and he can kill practically anything on his own, throw him into the Chaos Dragons and its instant hell for anyone who goes against the deck

Limited:
Trishula Dragon of the Ice Barrier: I get that Konami was trying to kill syncro's when they banned trish, however i can honestly say that besides myself i have never seen anyone else use this card. If they are trying to kill syncros commonly used ones such as Stardust, or RDA would probably be better choices by limiting them.


Limited or Semi Limited
Legendary Six Samurai Kageki: Now i will be really frustrated if this happens myself but i can see it happening. In my six samurai deck i frequently get first Turn Shi En's simply because of the fact that i have 3 in a deck with 3 Kagemushra's and it makes it really easy to get him out

Unbanned
Trishula: Once again rarely used card

iBlack Star-Kun

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Poor Saint Jimmy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:22 am


iBlack Star-Kun
I pretty much agree with Jimmy's predictions with just a few additions

Banned

Bronic: I was honestly surprised he wasn't banned last list considering i've seen him played way more often and that Trish was banned instead. He's fairly easy to get out in any typical syncro deck and his effect majorly kills opponents

Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the beginning: Not even sure why he was unbanned to begin with. Even being limited it's easy to bring him out and he can kill practically anything on his own, throw him into the Chaos Dragons and its instant hell for anyone who goes against the deck

Limited:
Trishula Dragon of the Ice Barrier: I get that Konami was trying to kill syncro's when they banned trish, however i can honestly say that besides myself i have never seen anyone else use this card. If they are trying to kill syncros commonly used ones such as Stardust, or RDA would probably be better choices by limiting them.


Limited or Semi Limited
Legendary Six Samurai Kageki: Now i will be really frustrated if this happens myself but i can see it happening. In my six samurai deck i frequently get first Turn Shi En's simply because of the fact that i have 3 in a deck with 3 Kagemushra's and it makes it really easy to get him out

Unbanned
Trishula: Once again rarely used card
You haven't seen Trishula played recently because she is banned. Also, There is a very troublesome and time consuming loop in Infenity decks that could summon her many times and OTK. It's a complicated loop but very overpowered. It's not just Infernities but other decks revolving around her. I don't think she'll be coming back this next banlist.

As for Six Samurais.. They are not Tier 1. They're Tier 2/ Tier 1.5 at best. While Gateway and Six Samurai United are great cards I don't think they'll get hit at all.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:24 am


Poor Saint Jimmy
You haven't seen Trishula played recently because she is banned. Also, There is a very troublesome and time consuming loop in Infenity decks that could summon her many times and OTK. It's a complicated loop but very overpowered. It's not just Infernities but other decks revolving around her. I don't think she'll be coming back this next banlist.

For the record i was talking about before Trishula was banned

iBlack Star-Kun

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Poor Saint Jimmy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:34 am


iBlack Star-Kun
Poor Saint Jimmy
You haven't seen Trishula played recently because she is banned. Also, There is a very troublesome and time consuming loop in Infenity decks that could summon her many times and OTK. It's a complicated loop but very overpowered. It's not just Infernities but other decks revolving around her. I don't think she'll be coming back this next banlist.

For the record i was talking about before Trishula was banned
I know. I said it as a joke.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:39 am


My predictions are.
Banned:
Future Fusion- so splashable in decks when the dark E-hero comes out, also hurts chaos dragons.
Wind-Up Hunter- kill the loop dont care about anything else
Monster Reborn- Should never be in the game let alone playable.

Limited:
Inzektor Hornet- Dont kill the deck just make is do something else majority of time.
Light Pulsar- Too strong and this is coming from a dragon enthusiast, dont ever think it needs banned but who knows.
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon- stop the ability for hieratics to make Gustaph Max, other than that hurt chaos dragons
Super-Poly- Uhm need i say the dark E-Hero is coming out
E-Hero Stratos- needs to go with a search card at 3

Semi- Limited:
Rescue Rabbit- its coming only matter of time
Rekindling- Lavals too strong in OCG dont let them start here
Mystical Space Typhoon- for some reason i think this is coming.
Tour Guide of the Underworld- Die!!!!!! no i love the card but it nets a +1 for no reason and then allows Zenmaines to play for days.
Book of Moon- Feel like its time for this to be back at 2 NEVER 3 but two is fine

Unlimited:
nothing needs unbanned as of now

ArcA Fox
Crew

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Poor Saint Jimmy
Captain

Newbie Noob

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:04 pm


ArcA Fox
My predictions are.
Banned:
Future Fusion- so splashable in decks when the dark E-hero comes out, also hurts chaos dragons.
Wind-Up Hunter- kill the loop dont care about anything else
Monster Reborn- Should never be in the game let alone playable.

Limited:
Inzektor Hornet- Dont kill the deck just make is do something else majority of time.
Light Pulsar- Too strong and this is coming from a dragon enthusiast, dont ever think it needs banned but who knows.
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon- stop the ability for hieratics to make Gustaph Max, other than that hurt chaos dragons
Super-Poly- Uhm need i say the dark E-Hero is coming out
E-Hero Stratos- needs to go with a search card at 3

Semi- Limited:
Rescue Rabbit- its coming only matter of time
Rekindling- Lavals too strong in OCG dont let them start here
Mystical Space Typhoon- for some reason i think this is coming.
Tour Guide of the Underworld- Die!!!!!! no i love the card but it nets a +1 for no reason and then allows Zenmaines to play for days.
Book of Moon- Feel like its time for this to be back at 2 NEVER 3 but two is fine

Unlimited:
nothing needs unbanned as of now
I think you accidentally placed Stratos in the Limited rather than banned.

Anyways, I don't think we'll see any new Hero cards in the limited zone. I think They'll Semi a couple at least. And to be honest with you, I don't ever want to see Reborn go.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:20 pm


Although i havent been keeping a very close watch on Konami and everything, i do have a few predictions and the reasons i want them banned/limited/unbanned

Banned:
+Brionac- For the reason that his effect isnt a "Once per turn"

Limited:
+Hornet- Constant reuse
+Windup Hunter- Too powerful of a loop
+Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon- Easy access and easy combo with Light Pulsar

Unbanned:
Dark Magician of Chaos- It would help treemendously with the Spellbooks plus i just got 1 and it want it to be legal.

Pravus-Jason


Poor Saint Jimmy
Captain

Newbie Noob

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:58 pm


Pravus-Jason
Although i havent been keeping a very close watch on Konami and everything, i do have a few predictions and the reasons i want them banned/limited/unbanned

Banned:
+Brionac- For the reason that his effect isnt a "Once per turn"

Limited:
+Hornet- Constant reuse
+Windup Hunter- Too powerful of a loop
+Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon- Easy access and easy combo with Light Pulsar

Unbanned:
Dark Magician of Chaos- It would help treemendously with the Spellbooks plus i just got 1 and it want it to be legal.
Limiting Hornet and Hunter does absolutely nothing. All Wind-Up decks that do the hand loop don't run more than one Hunter. Same for Inzektor Hornet, sure it slows them down a tiny bit at most and makes a D.D. Crow Deadly, but one Hornet is all you really need.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:50 pm


when i was in my inzektor phase i had ran 3 hornets for more possibility of getting 1

Pravus-Jason


Poor Saint Jimmy
Captain

Newbie Noob

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:42 am


Forbidden Cards 「禁止カード」:

Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary 「氷結界の龍 ブリューナク」
Future Fusion 「未来融合-フューチャー・フュージョン」

Restriction Cards 「制限カード」:

Inzecter Damsel 「甲虫装機 ダンセル」
Inzecter Hornet 「甲虫装機 ホーネット」
Chaos Sorcerer 「カオス・ソーサラー」
Spore 「スポーア」
Tsukuyomi 「月読命」
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」
Eviritua Gustkrake 「イビリチュア・ガストクラーケ」
Mainspring Carrier Zenmighty 「発条空母ゼンマイティ」
Ultimate Offering 「血の代償」

Semi-Restriction Cards 「準制限カード」:

Rescue Rabbit 「レスキューラビット」
Agent of Mystery, Earth 「神秘の代行者 アース」
Debris Dragon 「デブリ・ドラゴン」
Black Feather - Kalut the Moonshadow 「BF-月影のカルート」
Death Guide Leaving the Underworld Bound for the Living World「魔界発現世行きデスガイド」
E - Emergency Call 「E-エマージェンシーコール」
Pot of Duality 「強欲で謙虚な壺」
Hieratic Seal of Gathering 「召集の聖刻印」
A Hero Lives 「ヒーローアライブ」
Reasoning 「名推理」
Mirror Force 「聖なるバリア-ミラーフォース-」

No longer restricted 「準制限」:

Necro Gardna 「ネクロ・ガードナー」
Marshmallon 「マシュマロン」
Emergency Teleport 「緊急テレポート」
Destiny Draw 「デステニー・ドロー」
Level Limit - Area B 「レベル制限B地区」
Swords of Revealing Light 「光の護封剣」
Magic Cylinder 「魔法の筒」

http://shriek.twoday.net/topics/Banned+Lists/

This list is on Vjump in it's magazine and confirmed by Shriek. It certainly deals with a lot of problems and protects us from future terrors like the Gishki Hand Rape, Gadgets and an Atlantean and Mermail deck. It also hurts Dino Rabbit, A Hero Alive OTK, Chaos Dragons, Hieratic, and very likely killed Wind-Ups and Inzektors. Overall, I'm fine with this list, it doesn't really affect me in any major way other than allowing me to run 2 Kaluts. What do you guys think?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:53 pm


Saw this list early this morning and was fine since i never ran any of those in my decks, online or on the DN but one card, one card hit me hard in real life that it almost crippled the deck and i just got it a few months ago. I shall miss my E-Hero deck without the Future Fusion now.

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Pravus-Jason

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:46 pm


Im supprised that hunter is now where on there... but as i predicted, hornet was limited
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