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Dapper Fatcat

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:53 am


I would like to join a Muay Thai class but I'd like to get into shape a bit and was hoping someone might be able to help build a workout routine.
I don't have a gym membership so I don't have any fancy equipment but I have a stationary bike, a pool and I think we have some weights.
I am 18 with a height of 5'4.5" at 129 lbs
The past week or so I started exercising- just 10 miles on the bike at 17-20 mph every other day and sometimes I do about 50 squats. sweatdrop

If someone could help that'd be great, all posts appreciated!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:45 pm


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I would like to join a Muay Thai class but I'd like to get into shape a bit and was hoping someone might be able to help build a workout routine.
I don't have a gym membership so I don't have any fancy equipment but I have a stationary bike, a pool and I think we have some weights.
I am 18 with a height of 5'4.5" at 129 lbs
The past week or so I started exercising- just 10 miles on the bike at 17-20 mph every other day and sometimes I do about 50 squats. sweatdrop

If someone could help that'd be great, all posts appreciated!


Hmmmmm ... new to muay thai eh ... well I wouldn't worry about a gym membership ... muay thai is famous in the respect of it's very rustic ... you don't need a gym membership ... you should work on exercises with a focus on hip rotation and flexibility ... cardio will help also ... but just training in muay thai ... fitness will come with that too ... in time ...

ladymuaythai


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Dapper Fatcat

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:48 pm


ladymuaythai


Hmmmmm ... new to muay thai eh ... well I wouldn't worry about a gym membership ... muay thai is famous in the respect of it's very rustic ... you don't need a gym membership ... you should work on exercises with a focus on hip rotation and flexibility ... cardio will help also ... but just training in muay thai ... fitness will come with that too ... in time ...
I'm just worried I'll embarrass myself since I'm fairly weak and I'd like to develop myself a bit before I start.
Thanks for the tips! Any specific exercises you'd recommend?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:36 pm


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ladymuaythai


Hmmmmm ... new to muay thai eh ... well I wouldn't worry about a gym membership ... muay thai is famous in the respect of it's very rustic ... you don't need a gym membership ... you should work on exercises with a focus on hip rotation and flexibility ... cardio will help also ... but just training in muay thai ... fitness will come with that too ... in time ...
I'm just worried I'll embarrass myself since I'm fairly weak and I'd like to develop myself a bit before I start.
Thanks for the tips! Any specific exercises you'd recommend?


Maybe you can do laps around your pool ... That helps build cardio, and can be quite fun ... The stationary bike is also good (I have to get me one of those)... But try jogging as well so that you'll be mixing up your training, and tone your legs some more ... Also What kind of weights do you have? ...

I like what your doing though, I'm going to join my college's wrestling team, but I'm trying to get into better shape for that as well ... Mainly to cut down on weight ... The guys at the higher weights are HUGE!!! ... So I'm feeling what your feeling, and hoping I won't be embarrassed, and tossed around like a rag doll ...

Monando_Boi


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Dapper Fatcat

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:53 pm


Sabre809


Maybe you can do laps around your pool ... That helps build cardio, and can be quite fun ... The stationary bike is also good (I have to get me one of those)... But try jogging as well so that you'll be mixing up your training, and tone your legs some more ... Also What kind of weights do you have? ...

I like what your doing though, I'm going to join my college's wrestling team, but I'm trying to get into better shape for that as well ... Mainly to cut down on weight ... The guys at the higher weights are HUGE!!! ... So I'm feeling what your feeling, and hoping I won't be embarrassed, and tossed around like a rag doll ...
Thanks! I think they're just regular dumbbells? (sorry, I don't know much about weights) It's an above ground circular pool in the shade so it's super cold and I'm kind of a wimp and don't use it unless it's really hot.

Good luck making the lower weight division! You could always just try to lose a ton of water weight right before the weigh ins whee
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:30 pm


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Sabre809


Maybe you can do laps around your pool ... That helps build cardio, and can be quite fun ... The stationary bike is also good (I have to get me one of those)... But try jogging as well so that you'll be mixing up your training, and tone your legs some more ... Also What kind of weights do you have? ...

I like what your doing though, I'm going to join my college's wrestling team, but I'm trying to get into better shape for that as well ... Mainly to cut down on weight ... The guys at the higher weights are HUGE!!! ... So I'm feeling what your feeling, and hoping I won't be embarrassed, and tossed around like a rag doll ...
Thanks! I think they're just regular dumbbells? (sorry, I don't know much about weights) It's an above ground circular pool in the shade so it's super cold and I'm kind of a wimp and don't use it unless it's really hot.

Good luck making the lower weight division! You could always just try to lose a ton of water weight right before the weigh ins whee


Haha its not till fall, so I gots loads of time xD ...(Me feeling like a beginner in this expert filled guild, I don't feel its my place to give you any advice, but a lot of them can be very busy, and don't really reply as much....At lease not to anything I post... neutral ) And alright, I can understand, here I would love to have a pool since its so freakin' hot, and training feels like death ... X_x I started off Karate, and kickboxing, so I know the importance of not wanting to look like a total wimp, especially when the guy telling me to join was the incredible hulk ... I'm always training for training ... When my dads friends want to train Jiu Jitsu with me on a weeks notice, I train my head off, because I don't have too much confidence in my own strength(They're 25, 6'2 210ibs, and 28, 5'10 195, and I'm 19 5'8 165ibs crying ) ... Also! Your calve strength is highly important! ... In fact, your leg strength is key ... Make the best of what you have, Jogging does a lot for your calve muscles, and jogging for so many days in a row will take its toll, which is a good thing if your calves end up sore ... For upper body, use your dumbells, and maybe drill some punches with them to have some speed when you start ... If your up for it ... You can do push ups as well ... In the Karate Dojo, my Sensei would have us do whats called reverse pyramids ... In which you would do a set of 20 push ups ... Easy right? ... Okay ... Now that you've done 20 ... Now do 18 ... Then subtract another two, and do 16 ... Then 14 ... Get it now? ... Keep going down by twos within each set ... Do 12 ... Then 10 ... Then 8 ect ect ... once you hit two, do those ... And then your done ... It actually isn't so bad since your doing less, and less with each set ... Now add them together ... And Without even realizing it ... You've just done 110 Push ups ... Which was pretty genius if you ask me ... Most people just try to do a crap ton of push ups in one go, or have like 4 sets of 30 ... which is good, but for people like me (I don't consider myself an athlete, or a pro, or anything like the guys here) .... I like psychological tricks to fool my body into doing way more than its use to ... But maybe start off by going down 3 or 4's, instead of 2 (I.e. going down by 4 20, then 16 then 12 ect ect ... ... Same can be done with sit ups, and crunches ... I really hope I was able to help! ...

Monando_Boi


Monando_Boi

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:45 pm


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Sabre809


Maybe you can do laps around your pool ... That helps build cardio, and can be quite fun ... The stationary bike is also good (I have to get me one of those)... But try jogging as well so that you'll be mixing up your training, and tone your legs some more ... Also What kind of weights do you have? ...

I like what your doing though, I'm going to join my college's wrestling team, but I'm trying to get into better shape for that as well ... Mainly to cut down on weight ... The guys at the higher weights are HUGE!!! ... So I'm feeling what your feeling, and hoping I won't be embarrassed, and tossed around like a rag doll ...
Thanks! I think they're just regular dumbbells? (sorry, I don't know much about weights) It's an above ground circular pool in the shade so it's super cold and I'm kind of a wimp and don't use it unless it's really hot.

Good luck making the lower weight division! You could always just try to lose a ton of water weight right before the weigh ins whee


Ahhh I nearly forgot the one thing I never shut up about!!! gonk Stretching, and Flexibility! Something I'm massively proud of ...But these are just stretches for kicking ... (I've got other stretches for stuff like Jiu Jitsu, but for the sake of staying on topic, here's these tips for people barley starting out) mrgreen

Flexibility For Kicking Tutorial - For Stiff People & Beginners


Quick Tips #1: Stretching Frequency


Quick Tips #2: Training Frequency
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:18 pm


The thing to bear in mind above all others is that almost nobody enters a martial art as an expert. Being in shape is helpful (and as always, everyone should consult a physician before beginning any heavy duty exercise regimen) but its hardly essential. The martial arts, especially hard arts like muay thai will whip you into shape in record time along with everyone else in a beginning environment. It's important to remember that you'll not be the only new person there and equally important to recall that in a good school, the more experienced students are there to help, not hinder or judge.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to start swimming laps and jogging whether you intend to be a martial artist or not. In a world plagued by poor fitness, that's advice that anyone can take.

quiet_way
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Dapper Fatcat

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:00 pm


Sabre809


Haha its not till fall, so I gots loads of time xD ...(Me feeling like a beginner in this expert filled guild, I don't feel its my place to give you any advice, but a lot of them can be very busy, and don't really reply as much....At lease not to anything I post... neutral ) And alright, I can understand, here I would love to have a pool since its so freakin' hot, and training feels like death ... X_x I started off Karate, and kickboxing, so I know the importance of not wanting to look like a total wimp, especially when the guy telling me to join was the incredible hulk ... I'm always training for training ... When my dads friends want to train Jiu Jitsu with me on a weeks notice, I train my head off, because I don't have too much confidence in my own strength(They're 25, 6'2 210ibs, and 28, 5'10 195, and I'm 19 5'8 165ibs crying ) ... Also! Your calve strength is highly important! ... In fact, your leg strength is key ... Make the best of what you have, Jogging does a lot for your calve muscles, and jogging for so many days in a row will take its toll, which is a good thing if your calves end up sore ... For upper body, use your dumbells, and maybe drill some punches with them to have some speed when you start ... If your up for it ... You can do push ups as well ... In the Karate Dojo, my Sensei would have us do whats called reverse pyramids ... In which you would do a set of 20 push ups ... Easy right? ... Okay ... Now that you've done 20 ... Now do 18 ... Then subtract another two, and do 16 ... Then 14 ... Get it now? ... Keep going down by twos within each set ... Do 12 ... Then 10 ... Then 8 ect ect ... once you hit two, do those ... And then your done ... It actually isn't so bad since your doing less, and less with each set ... Now add them together ... And Without even realizing it ... You've just done 110 Push ups ... Which was pretty genius if you ask me ... Most people just try to do a crap ton of push ups in one go, or have like 4 sets of 30 ... which is good, but for people like me (I don't consider myself an athlete, or a pro, or anything like the guys here) .... I like psychological tricks to fool my body into doing way more than its use to ... But maybe start off by going down 3 or 4's, instead of 2 (I.e. going down by 4 20, then 16 then 12 ect ect ... ... Same can be done with sit ups, and crunches ... I really hope I was able to help! ...
That's pretty intimidating!
Thanks for the tip for pushups, I think your reverse pyramids sound like a great idea (though I don't think I can do 20 pushups yet so maybe I'll start with half pushups or start going down from 10 or something. Thanks so much for your help! I hope your questions get equally good responses!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:21 pm


quiet_way
The thing to bear in mind above all others is that almost nobody enters a martial art as an expert. Being in shape is helpful (and as always, everyone should consult a physician before beginning any heavy duty exercise regimen) but its hardly essential. The martial arts, especially hard arts like muay thai will whip you into shape in record time along with everyone else in a beginning environment. It's important to remember that you'll not be the only new person there and equally important to recall that in a good school, the more experienced students are there to help, not hinder or judge.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to start swimming laps and jogging whether you intend to be a martial artist or not. In a world plagued by poor fitness, that's advice that anyone can take.
Thanks, I guess I'm just extra nervous because I've never really been good at sports but it's good to know there should be others to help!

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Monando_Boi

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:22 pm


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Sabre809


Haha its not till fall, so I gots loads of time xD ...(Me feeling like a beginner in this expert filled guild, I don't feel its my place to give you any advice, but a lot of them can be very busy, and don't really reply as much....At lease not to anything I post... neutral ) And alright, I can understand, here I would love to have a pool since its so freakin' hot, and training feels like death ... X_x I started off Karate, and kickboxing, so I know the importance of not wanting to look like a total wimp, especially when the guy telling me to join was the incredible hulk ... I'm always training for training ... When my dads friends want to train Jiu Jitsu with me on a weeks notice, I train my head off, because I don't have too much confidence in my own strength(They're 25, 6'2 210ibs, and 28, 5'10 195, and I'm 19 5'8 165ibs crying ) ... Also! Your calve strength is highly important! ... In fact, your leg strength is key ... Make the best of what you have, Jogging does a lot for your calve muscles, and jogging for so many days in a row will take its toll, which is a good thing if your calves end up sore ... For upper body, use your dumbells, and maybe drill some punches with them to have some speed when you start ... If your up for it ... You can do push ups as well ... In the Karate Dojo, my Sensei would have us do whats called reverse pyramids ... In which you would do a set of 20 push ups ... Easy right? ... Okay ... Now that you've done 20 ... Now do 18 ... Then subtract another two, and do 16 ... Then 14 ... Get it now? ... Keep going down by twos within each set ... Do 12 ... Then 10 ... Then 8 ect ect ... once you hit two, do those ... And then your done ... It actually isn't so bad since your doing less, and less with each set ... Now add them together ... And Without even realizing it ... You've just done 110 Push ups ... Which was pretty genius if you ask me ... Most people just try to do a crap ton of push ups in one go, or have like 4 sets of 30 ... which is good, but for people like me (I don't consider myself an athlete, or a pro, or anything like the guys here) .... I like psychological tricks to fool my body into doing way more than its use to ... But maybe start off by going down 3 or 4's, instead of 2 (I.e. going down by 4 20, then 16 then 12 ect ect ... ... Same can be done with sit ups, and crunches ... I really hope I was able to help! ...
That's pretty intimidating!
Thanks for the tip for pushups, I think your reverse pyramids sound like a great idea (though I don't think I can do 20 pushups yet so maybe I'll start with half pushups or start going down from 10 or something. Thanks so much for your help! I hope your questions get equally good responses!


Thank you! ... And good luck on your MT training! And Quiet_Way is right, you won't be the only one new to MT, and the more skilled students will, and hopefully give you some pointers if you feel that your lacking in a certain area. But like most aspect of life, its only a matter of time, so if you have doubts, let time be the one to cast them away. =) It all matters on how much reps, you put into it. So again, good luck!! biggrin
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:24 pm


Sabre809

Ahhh I nearly forgot the one thing I never shut up about!!! gonk Stretching, and Flexibility! Something I'm massively proud of ...But these are just stretches for kicking ... (I've got other stretches for stuff like Jiu Jitsu, but for the sake of staying on topic, here's these tips for people barley starting out) mrgreen

Flexibility For Kicking Tutorial - For Stiff People & Beginners


Quick Tips #1: Stretching Frequency


Quick Tips #2: Training Frequency
Thanks, I completely forgot about stretching! gonk

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Dapper Fatcat


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Dapper Fatcat

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:26 pm


Sabre809


Thank you! ... And good luck on your MT training! And Quiet_Way is right, you won't be the only one new to MT, and the more skilled students will, and hopefully give you some pointers if you feel that your lacking in a certain area. But like most aspect of life, its only a matter of time, so if you have doubts, let time be the one to cast them away. =) It all matters on how much reps, you put into it. So again, good luck!! biggrin
Thanks, you too!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:34 pm


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Sabre809

Ahhh I nearly forgot the one thing I never shut up about!!! gonk Stretching, and Flexibility! Something I'm massively proud of ...But these are just stretches for kicking ... (I've got other stretches for stuff like Jiu Jitsu, but for the sake of staying on topic, here's these tips for people barley starting out) mrgreen

Flexibility For Kicking Tutorial - For Stiff People & Beginners


Quick Tips #1: Stretching Frequency


Quick Tips #2: Training Frequency
Thanks, I completely forgot about stretching! gonk


Yeah! don't forget to stretch before, and after your work out! gonk And if you plan on working out for several hours, maybe stretch every hour! Don't try to rush your flexibility either! If you have suckish flexibility now, don't sweat it, again it all boils down to the hours, and reps you put into it, you can get really good flexibility is maybe in about 6 months, again depends on the reps ... sweatdrop Ehh, I don't think I'm good at motivational speeches, so just give it your all! gonk

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