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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:54 am
While I can never keep to a regular update schedule to save my life, I do still try to post updates on days when there's higher reader traffic. During the Fall season when people are in school this means that I usually will try to post on Fridays or Saturdays. Since people are off on those days, they actually have the time to brows the archives for stories to read.
But in the summer like now I just have no idea.
There's no school or other such regular institution that keeps a great majority of readers busy so I have no ideas when most people do and don't have the time to read. I can't predict the archive traffic during the summer.
What about the rest of you? Do you try and predict reader traffic? Do you also like to post when traffic is high, or do you not care? When do you think is the best time to post during the summer?
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:39 pm
I just honestly don't care, I post whenever I'm done with something, honestly. redface
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:16 pm
Lillielle I just honestly don't care, I post whenever I'm done with something, honestly. redface Lol! Me, too. I'm like, "Done editing! What? It's two in the morning on a Wednesday??? Hm... Eh, whatever. *posts*"
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:37 pm
Now I feel so lame. emo Trying to map out the traffic so I know when it would be easiest for people to find my story…
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:40 pm
Renkon Root Now I feel so lame. emo Trying to map out the traffic so I know when it would be easiest for people to find my story… No. Your method makes more sense to me in order to maximize views, but like you said it's kinda hard to do that during summer break. If I post on Monday or any weekday, I'm most likely alienating the working crowd. If I post on Saturday, the odds are that people are out partying or doing something else because it's summer. If I post on Sunday, I could be losing out on viewers who are religious (at least in the US). So, there really isn't a specific day to optimize views during the summer because, like you said, there's not really a set schedule with school (middle school, high school, college). But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post. Whereas during school, I get the most views on the weekend even if I post during the week.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:40 pm
Renkon Root Now I feel so lame. emo Trying to map out the traffic so I know when it would be easiest for people to find my story… Lol don't feel lame! There's is nothing wrong with increasing your chances and views for your works. I typically just get so excited that I finished a chapter that I post it very quickly (sometimes at the cost of missing some grammatical mistakes. sweatdrop )
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:15 pm
Violent Crow Renkon Root Now I feel so lame. emo Trying to map out the traffic so I know when it would be easiest for people to find my story… No. Your method makes more sense to me in order to maximize views, but like you said it's kinda hard to do that during summer break. If I post on Monday or any weekday, I'm most likely alienating the working crowd. If I post on Saturday, the odds are that people are out partying or doing something else because it's summer. If I post on Sunday, I could be losing out on viewers who are religious (at least in the US). So, there really isn't a specific day to optimize views during the summer because, like you said, there's not really a set schedule with school (middle school, high school, college). But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post. Whereas during school, I get the most views on the weekend even if I post during the week. I feel the need to amend my statement. "But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post if FFnet's system isn't down." You see, I updated yesterday and didn't receive the usual alert telling me that my story has a new chapter. The alert didn't come until today. Still, it's usually the case during summer break that "if you post it, they will read it."
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:17 pm
Violent Crow Violent Crow Renkon Root Now I feel so lame. emo Trying to map out the traffic so I know when it would be easiest for people to find my story… No. Your method makes more sense to me in order to maximize views, but like you said it's kinda hard to do that during summer break. If I post on Monday or any weekday, I'm most likely alienating the working crowd. If I post on Saturday, the odds are that people are out partying or doing something else because it's summer. If I post on Sunday, I could be losing out on viewers who are religious (at least in the US). So, there really isn't a specific day to optimize views during the summer because, like you said, there's not really a set schedule with school (middle school, high school, college). But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post. Whereas during school, I get the most views on the weekend even if I post during the week. I feel the need to amend my statement. "But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post if FFnet's system isn't down." You see, I updated yesterday and didn't receive the usual alert telling me that my story has a new chapter. The alert didn't come until today. Still, it's usually the case during summer break that "if you post it, they will read it." Lol. "If you build it, they will come."
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:15 am
Renkon Root Violent Crow Violent Crow Renkon Root Now I feel so lame. emo Trying to map out the traffic so I know when it would be easiest for people to find my story… No. Your method makes more sense to me in order to maximize views, but like you said it's kinda hard to do that during summer break. If I post on Monday or any weekday, I'm most likely alienating the working crowd. If I post on Saturday, the odds are that people are out partying or doing something else because it's summer. If I post on Sunday, I could be losing out on viewers who are religious (at least in the US). So, there really isn't a specific day to optimize views during the summer because, like you said, there's not really a set schedule with school (middle school, high school, college). But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post. Whereas during school, I get the most views on the weekend even if I post during the week. I feel the need to amend my statement. "But what I've found in the summer is that no matter what day I post, I get the highest number of views on the day that I post if FFnet's system isn't down." You see, I updated yesterday and didn't receive the usual alert telling me that my story has a new chapter. The alert didn't come until today. Still, it's usually the case during summer break that "if you post it, they will read it." Lol. "If you build it, they will come." emotion_brofist Yes, so you aren't lame in the slightest for trying to find a method to garner more hits on your story. Notice that I say hits and not reviews. I don't know about you, but as long as I'm getting hits on my story I don't mind the lack of reviews. Especially since a lot of readers either don't have an account or are squeamish about leaving reviews for whatever reason.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:02 pm
Violent Crow emotion_brofist Yes, so you aren't lame in the slightest for trying to find a method to garner more hits on your story. Notice that I say hits and not reviews. I don't know about you, but as long as I'm getting hits on my story I don't mind the lack of reviews. Especially since a lot of readers either don't have an account or are squeamish about leaving reviews for whatever reason. Its funny that you mention that because I've always found it funny how some authors try to hoard reviews or hold stories hostage for reviews. Just because you have a high review count, doesn't mean those reviews are actually positive. I have seen stories that are only one chapter but have over 100 reviews and when I click on the fic, its less than a paragraph and barely recognizable as English, OR contains an atrocious event described in two sentences or less. And all the reviews for it are things like "why would you post this?", "this sucks, and you suck!", "I can't belevie this s**t hasn't been taken down yet!", etc. So… yeah. Reviews not make one's story great. /YodaVoice.
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:17 am
Renkon Root Its funny that you mention that because I've always found it funny how some authors try to hoard reviews or hold stories hostage for reviews. Just because you have a high review count, doesn't mean those reviews are actually positive. I have seen stories that are only one chapter but have over 100 reviews and when I click on the fic, its less than a paragraph and barely recognizable as English, OR contains an atrocious event described in two sentences or less. And all the reviews for it are things like "why would you post this?", "this sucks, and you suck!", "I can't belevie this s**t hasn't been taken down yet!", etc. So… yeah. Reviews not make one's story great. /YodaVoice. Oh my gosh... Don't even get me started on the "hostage story" thing. I have taken entire stories off of my favorites/alerts list and removed authors from my favorite authors list because I was so turned off from reading the story or anything written by the author due to the author taking their greediness for reviews so far that they refused to update unless they received X amount of reviews. I mean, are you freaking kidding me? Begging or demanding reviews is the easiest way to get me to not leave a review. I'm going to leave that subject behind already because I can go on forever about it... I have seen what you mentioned: loads of reviews but they're all negative. But I have also seen loads of good reviews but some are clearly manufactured by the author using obvious mule accounts and/or anonymous reviews. The latter annoys the everloving ******** out of me, mostly because I feel stupid for buying into the ruse until I actually do a bit of digging. There are a few fandoms that have this type of thing in surplus and what really, really annoys me about it is that it turns me into a complete conspiracy theorist because then I start to doubt every gushingly positive review. And even the anonymous flames become suspicious because I've come across some cases where they're completely fabricated by the author to stir up a bit of drama and get themselves some sympathy reviewers. It's enough to make you neurotic. emotion_facepalm
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:42 am
Violent Crow But I have also seen loads of good reviews but some are clearly manufactured by the author using obvious mule accounts and/or anonymous reviews. The latter annoys the everloving ******** out of me, mostly because I feel stupid for buying into the ruse until I actually do a bit of digging. There are a few fandoms that have this type of thing in surplus and what really, really annoys me about it is that it turns me into a complete conspiracy theorist because then I start to doubt every gushingly positive review. And even the anonymous flames become suspicious because I've come across some cases where they're completely fabricated by the author to stir up a bit of drama and get themselves some sympathy reviewers. It's enough to make you neurotic. emotion_facepalm I have seen this to an extent. Like if a fic has way more anon reviews than signed reviews, I just automatically assume its the author pumping up their own story. But as far as the mule accounts idea… that just… I can't believe that. I guess it would be super easy to make a bunch of mule accounts. All you'd need would be a second email address. But, I find it a hassle just to log into my own ff.n account after my allotted number of days are up and the site auto-logs me out. I'm like, "aw, man… now I have to remember my password again." Having two accounts and having to remember two separate email addresses and passwords seems like more of a hassle than its worth. The effort does not equal the payout in my mind. But then again, I don't really care about quantity of reviews as much as quantity of follows/faves. Reviews should be about quality, its follows and faves that are about quantity.
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:19 am
Renkon Root I have seen this to an extent. Like if a fic has way more anon reviews than signed reviews, I just automatically assume its the author pumping up their own story. But as far as the mule accounts idea… that just… I can't believe that. I guess it would be super easy to make a bunch of mule accounts. All you'd need would be a second email address. But, I find it a hassle just to log into my own ff.n account after my allotted number of days are up and the site auto-logs me out. I'm like, "aw, man… now I have to remember my password again." Having two accounts and having to remember two separate email addresses and passwords seems like more of a hassle than its worth. The effort does not equal the payout in my mind. But then again, I don't really care about quantity of reviews as much as quantity of follows/faves. Reviews should be about quality, its follows and faves that are about quantity. Yeah, I thought it was insane. My first thought was, "No, c'mon Crow. No one has time for that." But then I started noticing similarities in the "troll's" writing style and the author's and also how the account was obviously a mule (i.e., it didn't take the time to put up an avatar, the favorite author/story lists were empty, the bio was bare, and the account was only active at its creation and posting of the flame). I thought it was a really far-fetched theory because I personally don't have the time to make multiple emails and accounts since I find that process tedious and I'm a bit like an oldster in that I can't keep up with more than two emails (one for business and one for FFnet, Gaia, Steam, and my other haunts). So I brought up to the author that I thought it was a little weird that the troll only ever attacked that one particular story. The author and I had been speaking with each other fairly regularly since I read their story, but after I made that comment the author completely stopped responding to me. It's far more common for authors (especially new ones) to anon review their own stories to beef up the review count. I personally don't see what one would gain from doing that since it seems rather sad to praise your own story, but to a lot of writers the number of reviews is all that matters. Like you said, it should be about quality of reviews and not quantity. But not a lot of writers think that way. It seems that the growing misconception is lots of reviews = awesome/popular story
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:13 pm
Violent Crow It seems that the growing misconception is lots of reviews = awesome/popular storyThat misconception has been around since ff.n was first created back in '99. I remember when I first started posting my fan fictions, all any of my friends cares about was the number of reviews you had. "Oh, your story has 10 review? Well, mine has 14!" But there was never any discussion about content or quality of said review. Just quantity. We even went so far as to calculate averages of reviews per chapter. It was crazy. "You've got 100 reviews! Oh, but your fic is 10 chapters long, that's only 10 review per chapter. My fic is only five chapters long and I've got 60 reviews. That's 12 per chapter. I still have more than you." etc. It was really crazy back then. It actually used to make me really depressed and it took me a while to learn that review count didn't actually matter.
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Violent Crow Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:12 pm
Renkon Root Violent Crow It seems that the growing misconception is lots of reviews = awesome/popular storyThat misconception has been around since ff.n was first created back in '99. I remember when I first started posting my fan fictions, all any of my friends cares about was the number of reviews you had. "Oh, your story has 10 review? Well, mine has 14!" But there was never any discussion about content or quality of said review. Just quantity. We even went so far as to calculate averages of reviews per chapter. It was crazy. "You've got 100 reviews! Oh, but your fic is 10 chapters long, that's only 10 review per chapter. My fic is only five chapters long and I've got 60 reviews. That's 12 per chapter. I still have more than you." etc. It was really crazy back then. It actually used to make me really depressed and it took me a while to learn that review count didn't actually matter. That sounds... rather annoying. I've never really had anyone to "compete" with, per se, but I do understand the problem. For what it's worth, I'm glad that you don't really experience that issue anymore. The lesson about reviews is one that not everyone learns. It took me a little while to learn, but I didn't have the "Oh, you've only got...?" statement thrown at me from friends. In fact, the closest I ever got to that was reviewers saying, "Wow, this story has only...?" which was always a stab of annoyance at my ego back when that sort of thing still mattered to me. Now it's completely different statements that annoy me. neutral
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