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 Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:29 pm
WARNING!!
WARNING!!THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR IF YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED TALES OF DESTINY AND TALES OF DESTINY 2!! IF YOU WISH TO HAVE IT SPOILED, GO RIGHT AHEAD! IF NOT, WE ADVISE YOU TO STAY OUT OF THIS TOPIC! Have a nice day, =D.  THE ORIGINAL Traitor. I just realized, we don't have a thread on him! And sadly enough, I'll post pictures of him here which I should have done in the Klarh thread! ;_; I'm sorry Klarth. Anyways, Leon is a cool character because he's an arrogant a** that is just following you to keep tabs on you. SURE, he has a Swordian, but did he really intend to depart with his "brother"? Didn't think so. Because Leon is such an interesting character, I will say this will be one of the few character topics that actually needs a Spoiler Warning on it. That being said, this thread is actually for two characters... Most of you know who the other one is, so I won't say anymore for right now. My only question to you guys is: White text or no white text? ONOZ, SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SEE. DON'T LOOK AT IT, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED BY THE RED TEXT OF DOOMOKAY, SO MAYBE IT'S NOT A PICTURE YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SEE BUT... RETREAT! ...plus it's really big.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:19 pm
MAJIN RENGOSATTSU!! (I don't think that's spelled right...) scream
I don't know about the Japanese version, but in the US version he only barely develops throughout the beginning fo the game. Infact, his character kinda develops moreso when he's dead. *If that makes any sense*
Basically, it's like all the characters talk about how true his motives were, and how cool and honorable he was. And then Rutee says something about how much she loved him and how he cared for her. Apparently, right before the main battle, it's like he heard all of them throughout the game and became a great trusting friend asking for death. O___o
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:33 pm
Well, he was originally supposed to just observe them. Maybe he got a little attached? In Destiny 2 he says he had quite the thing for Rutee mainly. Kyle then asks if there was some love triangle going on, he goes to say that he's really her brother, but then opts not to as to not confuse Kyle anymore than he already did with his mother. He gives in and says, "Yes, there was a love triangle, that's why I hated Stahn."
Though really, he probably just hated Stahn for not knowing much about the outside world. And how Stahn could be a little more carefree. He lived his life a noble-type mostly, so he wouldn't understand.
As well, I think he betrayed the group because the only one who he believed wouldn't betray him then would be Chal. After not hearing a response from Marian about if she loved him or not, and then being ordered by his dad to go and kill everyone. He just kind of stood beside himself. Who else does he trust now? Chaltier seems like the only answer. So he fights you, and then ends up dying because of it.
Don't wory about White Text anymore, I'll go and mark "EXTREME SPOILERS" at the top, k?
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:50 pm
Destiny had some of the most developed characters ever, and Leon was part of why. Love ya, buddy. ^_^
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:22 pm
Great. Reaching for the White-text button is a hassle. talk2hand
...Wait, Lion/Leon was attracted to Rutee? As in, actual romance and not brotherly affection?
If that's true, Whoa. Anti-religionism and incestual overtones. xp No wonder the game didn't stand a chance over here.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:35 pm
EliteWarrior Great. Reaching for the White-text button is a hassle. talk2hand ...Wait, Lion/Leon was attracted to Rutee? As in, actual romance and not brotherly affection? If that's true, Whoa. Anti-religionism and incestual overtones. xp No wonder the game didn't stand a chance over here. No... It's just, that'd probably be a LITTLE too much for Kyle to take in. "So yeah, I'm your uncle..." "WHAT?! STAY AWAY FROM REALA, DON'T YOU DARE DATE HER I DON'T WANT HER TO BE MY AUNT!!" "...I knew I shouldn't of told him that." So he didn't.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:37 pm
Oh. Okay. sweatdrop
...Is Kyle really that defensive over Reala? O___o Aw man, I'm such a sucker for fluffy romances like that. I'll never get to play Destiny 2. crying
...I asked in another thread. Most likely no, but was there any reference to a Judas/Harold pairing in Destiny 2?
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:49 pm
EliteWarrior Oh. Okay. sweatdrop ...Is Kyle really that defensive over Reala? O___o Aw man, I'm such a sucker for fluffy romances like that. I'll never get to play Destiny 2. crying ...I asked in another thread. Most likely no, but was there any reference to a Judas/Harold pairing in Destiny 2? ...other than the fact she wants to use nearly all of the guys in experiments. Judas doesn't care, he'll die anyways. Loni is like, "ZOMG GO AWAY FREAK!! SAVE ME NANALY!!" and Kyle is like, "I'm on a date." in which she doesn't bother them. Kyle's not like, "ZOMG DON'T YOU DARE TAKE REALA AWAY!!!"... actually, he kind of is. But that's because the feeling is mutual between the two. Except for one part late in the game, he hates her guts. Sort of anyways. It's Judas himself who tells Kyle to get over it and just accept what will happen. Loni then goes, "What's your problem? He just had his heart crushed and..." I think Loni doesn't get that Judas himself had his heart crushed. Judas is usually the guy that is yelling at them still, telling them not to do things. Not yelling as much, but basically going, "We can't save Karel, it'll screw everything over." Yet the odd thing is, Judas' ideals always seems to conflict with Kyle's. Yet, Kyle thinks Judas is super-awesome. Which is really funny, if you think about it. "Damnit, shot down by Judas again... HE'S SO COOL!" Loni on the other hand... "So we're going to trust a guy that YOU NAMED?!" "Why do you keep picking on Kyle?" "Quit being a jerk!!" Loni sees Judas as he originally was, more of an arrogant jerk. Though the way Judas says things can be harsh, it's meant to get a point across. I guess he knows that Kyle has as thick a head as his dad, so being harsh is the only way to have it make sense. ...or maybe Kyle just wants to be goth, XD.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:19 pm
xd TRANSLATION GUIDE, AWAY!!!
So, is the party, like, one big happy family to Judas? xd
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:09 am
Exselser in the wrong topic EliteWarrior ...Was there even any hinting at a Judas/Harold relation in Destiny 2... A little, yes. In one of the dramas Harold confesses her feelings and he ends up turning her down because of Marian. >_< Gah, get over her man! It's just cute because everyone seems to think she's insane except Judas... He's really the only one she can have an educated conversation with. And then she jumps on him with scalpel in hand to break him out of all that angst. Isnt it cute?
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:45 pm
I just find it hilarious when peope think he's a girl. 'Causeof his pink cape. Jeez, Zelos wears pink and no one thinks...
I take that back.
Leon is one awesome b*****d. Then again, I think all pretty boys of Tales are awesome.
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:36 pm
In the opening Destiny anime, I'll admit that I thought Leon was actually a girl. After I saw all the characters, I thought he was Rutee. gonk
It's funny. He's really feminine in his anime-form. But he looks like a tough mutha-@$@a' as a sprite. xd
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:55 pm
EliteWarrior In the opening Destiny anime, I'll admit that I thought Leon was actually a girl. After I saw all the characters, I thought he was Rutee. gonk It's funny. He's really feminine in his anime-form. But he looks like a tough mutha-@$@a' as a sprite. xd It's the thing he does with his hair. It's feminist, but girls don't really do it THAT way. (He flicks his hair back while going, "hmph") I guess the mask stopped him from doing that, therefore, Leon=arrogant Mask=Mask Leon + Mask= Judas Judas=non-arrogant. Judas, though cold, seems a lot more polite than Leon. Though he is a bit of an a** to Kyle at points.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:27 pm
He flicks his hair....X_x
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:31 pm
JUDAS PIC TIME! Because Judas looks more kick-a** than Leon. Or they look the same, I dunno. If Elraine just really did chuck him into jail, how the hell did he get his new outfit and crap? Did Elraine get it FOR him? I thought she thought it would be better if LEON killed Stahn and co, not some masked-goth dude. Regardless, I have to say he's a much better dual wielder than Lloyd. If you want to get really technical, he's not even dual wielding swords. One's a sword, the other is a dagger type item. The same type of item that Harold sticks in her staff and makes it fly out when she attacks. That image is from Namco x Capcom... Does it look like he's dual wielding swords in that? One should be a dagger type thingy... Hmm... And the dagger thing just gives Selser more of his "HaroldxJudas" proof, =P. Judas is still heart-torn over Marian... He doesn't talk about her as MUCH, but he still references her. Hand covers the face! The thing in his left hand is a sword, the thing behind his back is the dagger thingy... Then again, it looks a bit TOO big to be a dagger... What the hell is that second weapon he has then?
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