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 Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:44 am
PETA claims to be all for protecting animals and what not, but did you also know that they're trying to extinct all pit bulls?
That's right! PETA has already managed some pit-free areas in the US, where all pit bulls in animal shelters are being put down. The only pit bulls allowed to live are the ones that were already owned, and those are forced to be spayed/neutred to prevent breeding! And they're trying to kill pits in other areas, too!
I will agree that pits are naturally aggressive creatures and have attacked humans before, but I also believe that with proper training, love, and affection, pit bulls will live their whole lives as friendly dogs without attacking anyone.
My mother is for the extinction of pit bulls, so I told my mom that I was going to adopt a pit bull when I was older just to prove to her that not all pit bulls were evil. And you know what she said? She said if she did, she would never visit me again.
PETA is already getting this visual of "Satan's dog" into people's minds! Nobody ever hears the story anymore about the pit bull who saved an 80 year old woman from a thief! No one ever hears the story of the pit who pulled the four year old boy out of a burning building and the boy came out without a scratch! Not even crying!
Discuss:
-How do you feel about this horrible act?
-Are you going to try to do anything about it?
-Do you think pits are bad or good?
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:48 am
I am whole-heartedly against PETA as well, but could you supply a source for that information? I'd like to read more on it.
I disagree with the whole banning of pit-bulls as well; it's wrong to punish a breed for the action of humans. It's a well known-topic in my animal guild, and has several different opinions on it as well.
Can you believe we got a join request with someone simply putting "PETAkillsanimals.com" as their text? I wish people would realize that not all veg*ns are PETA crazy. xp
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:56 am
Ailinea I am whole-heartedly against PETA as well, but could you supply a source for that information? I'd like to read more on it. I disagree with the whole banning of pit-bulls as well; it's wrong to punish a breed for the action of humans. It's a well known-topic in my animal guild, and has several different opinions on it as well. Can you believe we got a join request with someone simply putting "PETAkillsanimals.com" as their text? I wish people would realize that not all veg*ns are PETA crazy. xp Um, I don't remember where the article was, but it was somewhere on the PETA site. Sorry I can't give you a direct link.
And I didn't even hear about that. I just joined yesterday, actually. Hehe. But seriously, I like this guild because people are really open-minded. ^_^
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:11 am
Seems strange to try to get rid of a whole breed, but I can see the point of how many pit bulls are sent to shelters and such if they bite/scare people and the owners realize they don't want to deal with them anymore. Dog breeds are really manipulated though; pit bulls were specifically bred to be agressive animals, so I suppose getting rid of a breed is just as unnatural as creating a breed... I'm a PETA supporter. I've seen anti-PETA sites and I think that most of thier information consists of facts that have been twisted into extreme exaggerations. I'm also not sure why everyone's against them spending money on advertising themselves than on saving animals. Sure, it would be nice to save a bunch of lab rabbits and stuff, but that really doesn't tackle the root of the problem at all. When PETA spends money on getting video clips and printing ads, they're getting the word out about why people should go vegan, and then have a chance to convince a lot of people to adopt a vegan lifestyle, and going vegan is one of the best ways to help the cause. Getting less people to eat meat and buy fur means less demand for the meat and fur industries, and I believe that is a far more effective strategy for saving animals than trying to rescue a few that are already part of the whole mess. Anyways, the way I see it, being a PETA supporter doesn't necessarily mean that you believe in every word and viewpoint the top PETA people may have. To me, it's like voting for a president, you choose who can represent most of your beliefs, but you'll still most likely disagree with a few of thiers too. I stand for most of what PETA stands for, and I believe PETA has made an amazing impact on the world. At least, they were the ones who convinced me to go veg! mrgreen
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:18 am
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:32 am
I support PeTA but I'm not a nutcase over them,I'm beginning to back off of that.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:40 am
You have to understand that some animal lovers want pit bulls to be eliminated as a breed because they think that it's better than what they go through now. In a way, that's true.
Don't get me wrong, I realize that there are many kind, loving pit bull enthusiasts who raise great family dogs out of them. But there are many more people who want a pit bull because of their not-so-good reputation. They'll abuse and neglect those puppies until they become monsters, and some of them will even be forced into backyard dog fighting. Now, I'm not siding with the founder of PETA (I think most people aren't), but I can see how she'd get the idea that it's better not to breed them at all and to euthanize them in shelters before these disgusting people can get their hands on them.
Personally, I think you should have to have a special license to own and breed these dogs - not because they're always dangerous, but to keep them out of the possession of people who'd abuse them to get their 'fighters.'
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:35 am
One of my best friend's dogs is a pit bull, and it's one of the sweetest dogs I've ever met! I think that before PETA puts down the individual pit bulls, they should try to get to know the dogs. Most pit bulls are aggressive, and should be put down, but some of them can be very affectionate, like Rocky, my friend's dog.
I also agree with zewl in that people should have a special license to own pit bulls, so they aren't abused and forced to fight each other.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:26 pm
Thats terrible! I never thought PETA would do anything like that! I mean, this could make them lose a lot of members just because they want to put down these dogs. Not to even mention the innocent lives that are being wasted, and the emotional effect that it is putting on their companion/caregiver. Personally, i'm afraid of pit bulls- but that doesn't mean i dislike them. I would never want them to be put down!
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:55 pm
That's true, in some places I heard it's against the law to have Pitt Bulls, which is HIGHLY crass.
They only do bad things because of their owners.....my theory.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:57 pm
I've always disliked PETA They throw red paint on peoples stuff which is the dumbest thing to do If they could buy that one they can buy another and they will I don't like it when they buy they stuff but if it gets mest up they'll get another which hurts the animles even more whee
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:03 pm
cafeganesh I'm a PETA supporter. I've seen anti-PETA sites and I think that most of thier information consists of facts that have been twisted into extreme exaggerations. And PETA doesn't do that, too? neutral Quote: When PETA spends money on getting video clips and printing ads, they're getting the word out about why people should go vegan, and then have a chance to convince a lot of people to adopt a vegan lifestyle, and going vegan is one of the best ways to help the cause. Not everyone agrees that vegan is best. It's not even a reality for many people. Also, I don't believe anyone should be vegan unles they want to. It's a great thing if it's your choice, but having it preached at you is rather irritating. I don't think it's respectful of other people's beliefs, but that's just me. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for animal rights; but I'm not for trying to convert everyone. Quote: Getting less people to eat meat and buy fur means less demand for the meat and fur industries, and I believe that is a far more effective strategy for saving animals than trying to rescue a few that are already part of the whole mess. Unfortunately those animals are private property, so I agree with this whole-heartedly. I don't see how PETA's members committing more crimes is going to help their cause. Quote: Anyways, the way I see it, being a PETA supporter doesn't necessarily mean that you believe in every word and viewpoint the top PETA people may have. To me, it's like voting for a president, you choose who can represent most of your beliefs, but you'll still most likely disagree with a few of thiers too. I stand for most of what PETA stands for, and I believe PETA has made an amazing impact on the world. At least, they were the ones who convinced me to go veg! mrgreen I agree with what you're saying, to a degree. Obviously not all of PETA's followers are fanatics. I certainly don't see you as a fanatic. blaugh However, I wouldn't vote for a national leader whose party members have commited crimes and used gory shock images. I'm sorry, but their "advertising" smacks a little too much of brainwashed propaganda for my taste. I like in a rural area. I see how livestock are treated. I don't need their disgusting videos and exagerations to use my eyes.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:24 am
Umm 'pit bulls' are not a breed, this refers to an american bull terrior with psychological issues usually caused by inbreeding or torturous upbringing and the kindest most humane way is to cull them.
If the dog is sweet it is a regular american bull terrior - not a pit bull
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:10 pm
Ew! Thats so mean, i used to love peta but now that u say this i hate them. look at this link, look at the whole movie! I heart Pitbullz after seeing it!! http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/ crying
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:53 pm
Any dog can be a vicious monster if its not raised right. Any dog can be a sweetheart if it IS raised right.
They shouldn't ban/get rid of the breed, they should find the breeders and owners responcible for the kind of treatment that causes dogs to be aggressive and punish them, as well as stop them from continuing their practice.
I think all pet breeders should have a license and regulations. It would greatly lower abusive and neglective breeders and "puppy mills".
EDIT: And for the record, I do not support PETA either. Their goals and tactics are far too radical, and they in effect negate their attempts by being so radical. In other words, no one takes them seriously anymore b/c they're a bunch of homemade-bomb-making-red-paint-throwing-propaganda-shoving nutjobs. 3nodding
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