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 Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:10 pm
What do you think of the organization PeTA? I am a member and I am totally for it.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:36 pm
I.... would like to cut off their own limbs and feed them to them. >.>
I would go into more detail, but that would risk starting a flamewar.
EDIT: Okay, I must rant.
I dislike PETA because they don't leave room for any personal choice. It would be fine if they just promoted their views peacefully and rationally, but what they do is market using propaganda and terrorism. (Or actively support groups that do, which amounts to the same thing) I'm anti-abortion, but I respect other people's decision to do what's right for them, and don't try to burn down abortion clinics, or splash blood on would-be mother's stomachs.
They're too pushy. They don't respect my personal freedom to eat and wear what I want, and act like their word is the friggin' bible, spreading the good word. They irritate me in the same way that religious people knocking on my door telling me to convert do. Ad campaigns focus on disgusting and offending the target audience: "holocaust on your plate", their attempts to put up billboards of crucified lambs to deliberately offend Christian people.
I can't stand it when organizations have the "we know better than you" attitude. Never trust people who think they're above the law, that's what I think when I hear about PETA or their affiliates committing arson, or bombing research labs or meat trucks.
They advertise to children too much. Now, advertising to children is fine (well, not really), but circumventing their parent's authority in an effort to change their morality at such an impressionable age is just low. I remember there being issues about them waiting outside my elementary school to harass kids before they got to their parents, and coming across a pamphlet claiming that vegetarian men have better tasting semen.
Basically, their campaigns work counter-productively on me. I like to think I have a bit of an eye for when people are trying to manipulate me, and I resent it when I catch it. By using underhanded methods of conversion to their cause, they have refused to treat me with respect. I can't be the only person who responds better when presented with an unspun version of the truth.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:31 am
I am not a fan of PETA at all.
I'm all for treating animals humanely, and for improvements in the various industries in which animals are...used.
However, to me it seems that a good chunk of the time, PETA is 99% shock images and 1% sense.
They seem to go out and find pictures of worst-case scenarios, of people who do NOT represent the industries. Then they get pictures and claim that they're depicting the norm?
I have no respect for a group whose main weapons are gorey pictures meant to make animal-lovers sympathize with them.
They called for a boycott of Canada I believe (Could someone verify this? If it's not true, then I completely apologize!) because of the seal hunt. Yeah, because all of us Canadians hunt seals, so boycott the whole country! Yeah, that's smart!
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:35 am
Without PETA, I would probably never have become a vegetarian. Let me explain...
The first time I was presented with any information at all that the meat industry was not adequately represented by a bright farm with a red barn and plenty of happy, kindly-treated animals milling around at their leisure was when I read a PETA pamphlet that came in the mail for my stepmother (who was, oddly enough, a self-proclaimed "animal activist" but not a vegetarian/vegan). The article included several horrifying accounts from former employees at a hog slaughter facility.
I do not know whether the information was accurate or exaggerated. I did not ask. It wasn't even really the details that reached me, it was the sudden realization that the meat on my plate did once have feelings, and the capacity for happiness or suffering. I quit eating most meats cold-turkey (pardon the expression), and gave up fish less than a month later.
I've done a lot of research into the terror behind slaughterhouses, most of which I've obtained from 'Meat Science' or Ag courses (and studies) and not from animal welfare groups. This information isn't any more comforting, let me tell you. And it's not readily available unless you look for it. Would I really have gone to the trouble if I didn't get a blunt eye-opener?
So yeah, I'm one of those childhood victims of PETA's mad propoganda.
Thank God.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:54 am
I used to be for PeTa, but now I'm not.
PETA claims to be all for protecting animals and what not, but did you also know that they're trying to extinct all pit bulls?
That's right! PETA has already managed some pit-free areas in the US, where all pit bulls in animal shelters are being put down. The only pit bulls allowed to live are the ones that were already owned, and those are forced to be spayed/neutred to prevent breeding! And they're trying to kill pits in other areas, too!
I will agree that pits are naturally aggressive creatures and have attacked humans before, but I also believe that with proper training, love, and affection, pit bulls will live their whole lives as friendly dogs without attacking anyone.
My mother is for the extinction of pit bulls, so I told my mom that I was going to adopt a pit bull when I was older just to prove to her that not all pit bulls were evil. And you know what she said? She said if she did, she would never visit me again.
PETA is already getting this visual of "Satan's dog" into people's minds! Nobody ever hears the story anymore about the pit bull who saved an 80 year old woman from a thief! No one ever hears the story of the pit who pulled the four year old boy out of a burning building and the boy came out without a scratch! Not even crying!
But do as you like. Support PETA and their quest to murder an entire breed! Which, mind you, WILL damage the ecosystem in one way or another.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:47 am
PETA, in theory, is a lovely concept: a group of people who support treating animals with respect. To me, it's a nice idea; I don't own pets due to allergies, but my brother owns dogs, my boyfriend's family has cats, and my mother has owned guinea pigs and goldfish. In all these cases, I see and have seen animals being treated fairly: fed, washed (if necessary), taken to the vet, played with, cared for, treated as a member of the family... I agree with the ideal. However, even communism is an okay idea in theory. My grief with PETA lies in the execution of their ideals, their "look the other way" attitude about vandalism, destruction of public and private property, and terrorism in the name of animal rights, and their tactics in marketing their beliefs onto the masses.
I'm a college student. Every day, I see a group of kids that I've dubbed the "PETA-nazis," an extremist group of FRESHMEN who seem to think it vogue to heckle people about their personal choices. The entire idea of PETA and animal rights is popular to them because it unites them; they feel like fighters in the battle for animal justice. They're all vegan, citing that it's healthier than eating meat. Nonetheless, the whole lot of them meet in a place each day to pull out their lighters and coat their lungs with ash and tar.
Grief 1: It's not vogue to support PETA. Support it because you agree with them AND their tactics, not because it's fashionable to do so.
Grief 2: Don't heckle me due to MY PERSONAL CHOICE. It's MY CHOICE to eat and wear what I please, irregardless if it suits your ideals. Live and let die. Let me die of heart disease, and I'll let you die of lung cancer.
To avoid ranting for days, I'll truncate my words, and make the following points.
-- Practice what you preach. PETA is against any type of animal testing. A few weeks ago, I read that PETA petitioned my university to pull funding from a research group because they were doing animal testing to find a means to stop cancerous cells from proliferating. As a member of the scientific community, I'm well-aware of the regulations, stipulations, and benefits of animal testing. Cosmetics is one thing; finding a medicinal treatment for cancer is another. Need I bring up the example of PETA's current vice-president? She is vocally and vehemently against animal testing, yet she, as a Type II diabetic, requires insulin to survive. Insulin is a product of scientific testing on dogs.
-- If you're trying to convince me, don't insult my intellect. PETA often uses shock tactics to get the word out, such as comparing chicken farms to WWII concentration camps or comparing owned animals to "slaves." Dear heavens. Very few world events have had the sweeping devestation of the Holocaust. DON'T compare the mass slaughter of 6 million humans in the name of inequality to chickens. Additionally, slavery in the United States, even after 140 odd years, is still a very touchy subject. Don't demean the struggle of a race for 200 years to mere animal ownership.
-- Let me have my rights. PETA, as well as many organizations, seems to have forgotten one key thing... PERSONAL CHOICE. Too often do organizations try to shove their philosophy down the throats of the masses, seeing their beliefs as the only way. Well, it's my right to eat meat if I choose, wear fur if I choose, have a pet if I choose. I should not have to live in fear of being bombed or having my property destroyed because of it. Yes, irregardless of my beliefs, throwing paint onto someone's fur coat is a DESTRUCTION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY. The animal has already died for that coat, and the coat was being used. Why let the death of the animal be entirely fruitless once the coat is ruined?
PETA and the people associated with it push a lot of my buttons. Animal treatment in many respects needs to be improved, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the lives of humans for the rights of animals.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:41 pm
Im a member of the peta street team and im involved in alot of things to do with them. tee hee PETA ROCKZ! heart
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:33 am
Honestly, I'm firmly against Peta as an organization but I am all for the people. If that makes any sense...
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:03 am
I find PETA to be too reliant on scare tactics. PETA, to me is no different from those crazy Christians that try to convert you. Anyone should have the right to chose their path of life, without having someone constantly telling them they're wrong. And people should make up their own minds. I support WWF, because unlike PETA they do more social good than damage.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:07 pm
Without PETA, I would not be a vegetarian, most likely.
See, I was doing a project in middle school where we had to cut out pictures from magazines that the teacher provided us with to use for something...
When I was working, I was looking through her PETA magazines from years before. They were interesting, so I stole them, and investegated other sources about health and stuff...
And now I'm vegetarian!
But now I find that their reputation doesn't do much to further the causes of normal, non-crazy vegetarians. If I mention PETA to anyone, they'll automatically assume I'm crazy, so I try to keep away from them, except that I do enjoy some of their propaganda like the cute stickers and stuff that they have.
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:39 pm
I do not in any way, shape or form support PETA. On every level they disgust me, and I'd go into the pitbull rant (which by the way, do research before you judge an entire breed--ever heard of media bias?) but The Hoodlumish Panda already covered it. Quite well, I might add.
Their scare tactics and pushy attitude make me as sick as the things they're supposedly fighting to stop.
There's nothing I hate more when someone learns I'm vegetarian and immediatly assumes I do crazy s**t like dump blood on people because of the example PETA sets. Hell, half the stuff they say has NOTHING to do with animals or their welfare.
I once saw an ad, marketed by PETA, saying vegetarians have better sex. My reaction was as follows: Ooookay...
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:44 pm
... Doesn't PETA financially back eco-terrorist organizations? >>; I mean, there's a BIG difference between being against something and campaigning for that to be changed, but committing violent and illegal acts? Just because you dislike people wearing fur, you don't throw paint on them. That'll only make them go buy more. Try supporting the synthetic fur industry, instead. http://www.fb.org/views/focus/fo2002/fo0311.htmlAmerican Farm Bureau's article on PETA's financial backing of the ALF, a militant group that is listed by the FBI and ATF as "one of the most serious terrorism threats to the nation." http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/19/domestic.terrorism/Plus, PETA puts animal rights in the same category as black slavery and spousal abuse. Of course, these are the same people who claim that the animal rights movement is strictly non-violent in their FAQ, then go on in the next subheading (about their ALF backing) about how it's sometimes necessary to break the law, and how the ALF DOESN'T attack people (which they do) and only burn and break inanimate objects (I suppose they consider people to be inanimate objects). http://peta.org/about/faq.asphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:50 pm
Astrox I find PETA to be too reliant on scare tactics. PETA, to me is no different from those crazy Christians that try to convert you. Anyone should have the right to chose their path of life, without having someone constantly telling them they're wrong. And people should make up their own minds. I support WWF, because unlike PETA they do more social good than damage. Ahhh, the WWF! (:
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:00 am
K!NSLEY Astrox I find PETA to be too reliant on scare tactics. PETA, to me is no different from those crazy Christians that try to convert you. Anyone should have the right to chose their path of life, without having someone constantly telling them they're wrong. And people should make up their own minds. I support WWF, because unlike PETA they do more social good than damage. Ahhh, the WWF! (: The World Wildlife Fund support elephant culling mad They have tons of money, loads of supporters, and don't do as much with it as they could...I have heard they spend a lot on highly paid staff and plush offices but I'm not sure if it's true. As far as I'm concerned Peta do a good job... They are one of the biggest Animal Rights campaigning groups and have achieved a lot. My brother and sister both stopped eating meat after I showed them some of the leaflets from Peta. I also hand out leaflets to the public in education stalls - the literature and posters are very useful for getting the message across. I don't believe the stuff that some people say about Peta. Most of the anti-Peta stuff is propaganda in an attempt to discredit them because they are effective. Being meat-free and caring about animals goes against the status quo - Governments and society as a whole dislike the Animal Rights movement because we speak out against things which affect everyone's lifestyle. This is why the meat industry, the fur industry, the vivisection industry will attack us because we make them unconfortable. They pick on Peta because it is a legitimate mainstream group with members all across the world and it is effective. We need to stick together as a movement and show them that 'divide and conquor' won't win.
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:27 am
Badgerkin The World Wildlife Fund support elephant culling mad Way to point fingers without actually providing any information. Why do they do that? Why do they say they do it? I'm not going to claim I know much about elephants, but until you prove that YOU know what you're talking about, I'm disregarding this point. Oh em gee! The WWF does a bad thing. So does PETA! They're called "illegal activities". Quote: They have tons of money, loads of supporters, and don't do as much with it as they could...I have heard they spend a lot on highly paid staff and plush offices but I'm not sure if it's true. Because you know exactly how they spend their money? Quote: As far as I'm concerned Peta do a good job... A good job doing what, exactly? Finding photographers to seek out gory scenes? Using shock tactics? Condoning illegal acts? Shoving their opinion down our throat? Yeah, I guess they are pretty good at what they do. Quote: They are one of the biggest Animal Rights campaigning groups and have achieved a lot. My brother and sister both stopped eating meat after I showed them some of the leaflets from Peta. I also hand out leaflets to the public in education stalls - the literature and posters are very useful for getting the message across. Big =/= good. What was in those leaflets, exactly? Want to know the message they get across to me, and many others? Message:" These people are agressive extremists and want to represent vegetarians." I don't want to be associated with that group, thanks. I'd rather not have people know I'm veg, since so many of them associate me with PETA. Quote: I don't believe the stuff that some people say about Peta. Most of the anti-Peta stuff is propaganda in an attempt to discredit them because they are effective. I am literally laughing, now. You think PETA doesn't use propaganda? Please don't tell me you're that naive! What do you think those shock images are? What do you think their agressive advertising (which is SLIM on actual facts) is? No one has to use propaganda against PETA, they just point out the questionable validity of their tactics and "facts". Quote: Being meat-free and caring about animals goes against the status quo - Governments and society as a whole dislike the Animal Rights movement because we speak out against things which affect everyone's lifestyle. This is why the meat industry, the fur industry, the vivisection industry will attack us because we make them unconfortable. PETA makes me just as uncomfortable as any fur farmer. Quote: They pick on Peta because it is a legitimate mainstream group with members all across the world and it is effective. We need to stick together as a movement and show them that 'divide and conquor' won't win. Obviously, effective is relative. When they use juvenile scare tactics and support terrorists, the only thing they're suceeding at is disgusting and angering people. rofl
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