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Eusis Landale
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:45 pm


Well since I'm certain everyone here knows who Dante is I'll not get into explaining his powers and s**t.
However I doubt anyone here knows who Chakan is so I'll explain as best I can who he is and what he can do.
First of all, here's the pretty boy. (Much sarcasm)

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Anyway, his weapons include his twin swords, which can freely be changed among the elements of Fire, Ice, Lightning, and Earth, a giant hammer, a scythe, an axe, and a grappling hook. The elemental swords will also send a shot of energy flying when swung, and the earth has the ability to cause a massive earthquake should the energy hit the ground. Of all his weapons he's had at least 1000 years of constant training with the swords so they're effectively extentions of himself, a level of skill Dante likely has not aquired.

His powers include a wide variety of alchemic magic including invisibility, immunity to any form of damage (also included as part of his invisibility spell), the ability to defy gravity, slow enemy movement (not time so Dante actually lacks a counter to this basic tactic), create a massive blast that'll destroy almost anything living, doubling his strength, move forward or backward in time, change the features of the world around him, and move to other worlds and planes of existance.
He supposedly has hundreds of other powers, though I don't know of them as they're not used in the games, I've not seen them mentioned as things that were planned for the sequel, and I've not had a chance to look into the comics.

While his body can be destroyed or effectively killed he'll simply rematerialize a short time later since he's immortal.


Personally I'd say Chakan would win this, even if it were to just count until his body was destroyed. I say this because he could logicly turn the surrounding area, or perhaps even the entire planet(depending on the extent of the ability to change the world around him), into a bomb and then teleport away should he get desperate. And dispite his goal of destroying supernatural evil he's not above killing innocent people to do so, so there'd be little hesitation to use such a tactic.
This even gives reason for the fight since by nature Dante would be considered supernatural evil, dispite being good by conscience.

Edit:
Also to get a general idea of how powerful Chakan is supposed to be, wihtout reading all of that here's a picture showing how powerful his creator imagines him to be.

Edit 2: Forgot to mention a bit about his background.
Chakan wants nothing more than to die, but he can't do so because of his curse which is to live forever until all supernatural evil is destroyed, and to motivate him whenever he rests his mind is flooded by images of the evils and can feel the pain of the victims.
You do not make bets with Death and then win, especially if immortality is the reward, because he is a very sore loser.
Poor Chakan learned this the hard way, and also learned the hard way, by not dieing after trying to disembowel himself, that when Death says all he means ALL, not just what's on your planet.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:38 pm


I don't know who Chakan is but by reading all the info about him I have to say he could easily beat Dante.

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Eusis Landale
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:23 am


Ben Hyuga
I don't know who Chakan is but by reading all the info about him I have to say he could easily beat Dante.
That's one of the reasons I posted this. To balance out the ungodly one sided fights listed for Dante here so far.

I can't remember where exactly I saw it, some VS thread in the VGD, where it was said that Superman basicly says with his actions to other heros "Oh that's nice, but I can do that. Better and faster too.". Anyway that sort of logic is pretty much applied to Chakan too, with a slight psychotic twist. 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:32 am


Maybe you should put in Shadow hunter vs. Dante, he may get famous in the votes,...

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Eusis Landale
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:13 am


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Maybe you should put in Shadow hunter vs. Dante, he may get famous in the votes,...
Two questions.
What the hell does that have to do with this?
Who or what the hell is Shadow hunter?
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:20 pm


ill say dante, but id be on hell of a sword fight

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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:23 pm


I've never heard of that guy either... but...

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immunity to any form of damage


>.O

That alone would win him the battle... but is there no way to get around it?
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:28 am


Apparently Eusis, you basically said that Chakan "Can do everything Dante can do. Better, too. And he has more original s**t, too." Therefore, I say Chakan would kill Dante, easily.

I wish to play whatever game this one hell of a godmodder is from.

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Eusis Landale
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:46 pm


Waffles the Ninja
I've never heard of that guy either... but...

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immunity to any form of damage


>.O

That alone would win him the battle... but is there no way to get around it?
It only lasts about half a minute.
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Apparently Eusis, you basically said that Chakan "Can do everything Dante can do. Better, too. And he has more original s**t, too." Therefore, I say Chakan would kill Dante, easily.

I wish to play whatever game this one hell of a godmodder is from.
Well he doesn't do "looking pretty" and "giving a damn about anyone else's safety" anywhere near as well as Dante. Not to mention that I'm pretty sure their styles of fighting are different, as Chakan's seems to be more to the point while Dante seems to be more focused on toying with an enemy before dealing with it.
Also I don't think he's got anything over Dante as far as originality goes, they just differ in certain aspects. Chakan's got his normal, but occasionally magically augmented, weapons, alchemy, and immorality, while Dante's got both normal and demonic weapons, a few alchemicly made items, and his Devil Trigger and Styles.
Basicly what I was saying was that Chakan has more things to utilize, more experience, and, something I vaguely touched on, desperation so he'd be more likely to win. I'll clarify the desperation in an edit.

There's a Game Gear and a Genesis game for him, Chakan: The Forever Man. You could probably find the ROMs pretty easily, but be forewarned; Even on practice mode this game is ungodly hard toward the begining, but as you gather his weapons and more alchemy potions it becomes less of a nightmare but still remains anything but easy. Kinda like DMC 3, only with more certainty that the game's creators wanted to drive you insane.
I have no idea how hard the GG game is, but from what I've read it's supposed to be more unforgiving as there's a few alchemic spells that backfire on you, and end up reversing the already difficult controls.
PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:55 pm


They had this game at Gamecrazy three days ago! eek
I hope they still have it.*Rushes off to Gamecrazy.*
edit: They sold it already. crying
*Tries to stay on topic*
Well anyway like I said before the information on Chakan makes me rule in his favor.

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:09 pm


Hrm. Whoever emerges the victor, it'd be quite a bit of a close match, methinks. I'm not sure how useful the elemental properties of this Chakan's weapons would be -- other than adding to his possibilities for offense -- against Dante's defenses, as I don't recall him having a particular elemental affiliation. Some of his Devil Arms do, but I doubt this has a use beyond affecting his own foes differently. I'm also glad to have read a clarification on the immunity to damage ability; were it not for its duration upon activation, I would have been forced to vote in Chakan's favor, hands down.

After all that ranting, I still have a question. What would be Chakan's motivation to fight Dante in the first place, were this confrontation to occur? Chakan is motivated by the necessity to destroy supernatural evil, and yes, I know that Dante is quite a bit supernatural. Evil, however, I would not consider him. His bloodline contains what would be considered "evil" just because of what it is; the man himself, however, is far from evil. Just curious as to why you think it might happen, me being obsessed with details as ever.
PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:08 pm


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Hrm. Whoever emerges the victor, it'd be quite a bit of a close match, methinks. I'm not sure how useful the elemental properties of this Chakan's weapons would be -- other than adding to his possibilities for offense -- against Dante's defenses, as I don't recall him having a particular elemental affiliation. Some of his Devil Arms do, but I doubt this has a use beyond affecting his own foes differently. I'm also glad to have read a clarification on the immunity to damage ability; were it not for its duration upon activation, I would have been forced to vote in Chakan's favor, hands down.

After all that ranting, I still have a question. What would be Chakan's motivation to fight Dante in the first place, were this confrontation to occur? Chakan is motivated by the necessity to destroy supernatural evil, and yes, I know that Dante is quite a bit supernatural. Evil, however, I would not consider him. His bloodline contains what would be considered "evil" just because of what it is; the man himself, however, is far from evil. Just curious as to why you think it might happen, me being obsessed with details as ever.
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This even gives reason for the fight since by nature Dante would be considered supernatural evil, dispite being good by conscience.
Other than that, and even if that doesn't work, he'd likely try to kill Dante the instant he realises that Dante's action help any evil, willingly or otherwise.
Which is an action he's proven that he'll take when he butchers dozens of tortured prisoners just so their suffering stops increasing Elkenrod's power.

As for the elemental swords thing. They hold two benefits for Chakan. One is that their basic attack hits harder regardless of elements, and the other is that they allow him to fight at a range.
However I also checked on Dante's DTs to see about a weakness and resistance by using Agni&Rudra and Cerberus against Cerberus. They take the same damage from the same attacks, so which elemental sword Chakan chooses will simply effect the rate in which he can fire bolts of energy.

Eusis Landale
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:41 pm


Chakan wins. I see no way for Dante to survive after being blasted like that (cept for possibly a Just Guard if he can survive in the vacuum of space which may be possible, I'll have to debate with someone on that). Anyway, the pic that has Superman dead and Chakan still grinning alone makes me think Chakan ftw, I mean seriously, you beat Supes and you know you're up with the true uberpowered dudes.
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:56 am


damn 642.....can't argue with ya on that one

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