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 Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:08 pm
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:02 pm
I am sorry man but I believe being gay or being a lesbian is wrong in Jehovah's eyes. Jehovah made people to like the opposite sex.
Man, in time, has created the attitude that it's okay to be gay or be a lesbian. The attitude has gone from i love the woman, to hey, you don't tell me what to do.
James, I'm not trying to be mean or anything. I am just expressing my thoughts towards what you said.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:10 pm
i understand, man. I'm not saying that homosexuallity is OK to be exact, but I'm saying that God/Jehovah loves homosexuals. I mean, look at it this way. God/Jehovah said that sex before marriage was a sin. He said that lying was a sin. he said that murder was a sin, yet all those things happen all the time unforunately. I am guilty of lying, and I'm guilty of having impure sexual thoughts (curse you puberty!), but does God/jehovah hate me? He certainly doesn't. The fact of the matter is that we sin, and so do gay people. God/Jehovah doesn't hate us. He loves us all.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:14 am
Hayabashi 2 i understand, man. I'm not saying that homosexuallity is OK to be exact, but I'm saying that God/Jehovah loves homosexuals. I mean, look at it this way. God/Jehovah said that sex before marriage was a sin. He said that lying was a sin. he said that murder was a sin, yet all those things happen all the time unforunately. I am guilty of lying, and I'm guilty of having impure sexual thoughts (curse you puberty!), but does God/jehovah hate me? He certainly doesn't. The fact of the matter is that we sin, and so do gay people. God/Jehovah doesn't hate us. He loves us all. Okay, phew. Okay calm down Jay. Well you are correct on some things (in the religion that I'm in).
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:47 pm
Alright, hopefully this won't offend... But using science, one must also question if God/Jahova/Allah/any other deity actually would be anti-homosexuality. There are gay penguins, lesbian lizards, (Some Chinese water dragons that were owned by a Canadian herpeteculturist who runs Tricia's Water Dragons.) etc etc... It seems quite natural, although the cause is quite arguable. The theory I concocted actually revolves around scientific research and personal observation...
Homosexuality is most prosperous percentage-wise in areas with high populations, and it almost solely exists in nature and captivity in areas that are HIGHLY overpopulated. (Aside from prisons, that is.) It seems to be nature/God's own little form of population control. One can't overpopulate when they can't pop out babies.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:30 am
You're the second person I've known to say stuff like that. I honestly have NEVER heard of a gay animal anywhere or seen anything like that. I just don't believe that happens.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:18 pm
... There's footage of it with the penguins, (The little Bas***** actually will steal eggs from the penguins that give birth occasionally... I mean, I've got no problem with gay penguins... But when they become child stealing anythings, it's just wrong.) rats do it all the time when they become overpopulated in labs, and there ahve beene experiments with gay sheep. o_O Just because you haven't seen it yourself doth not make it untrue.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:20 am
True, true, but that doesn't make it true either.
Can you show me the evidence? I'm not trying to start anything here or anything, but I've heard this before and each time the person only said it via third hand data. sweatdrop Can you give me first or second hand data there? That's why I find it hard to believe.
EDIT: I probably worded this wrong sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:42 am
Ok, I'm going to word this differenetly. Yes, just because I don't know something doesn't make it wrong. I OF COURSE realize that. But everytime somebody's said that animals can be gay or such to me, they always say, "Well, this guy/girl told me..." That's why I find it hard to believe. Especially lesbian penguins. How the heck could they have sexual relations? Of course, I could be 200% wrong, but I'd just like more evidence than that please. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:03 pm
Um... I was basically silent because I had nothing I could say at that point, not because of your wording. I mean, what was I supposed to do? Show you two penguins mating and somehow prove they were both male? XP Anyway...Lesbian penguins I have never heard of... I mean, supposedly both sexes will show homosexual tendancies in overpopulated rat colonies... And I've heard of two female lizards trying to mate on multiple occasions... But yeah.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:04 pm
No, of course I don't mean that. I just don't see how it would work. They don't mate for pleasure like we sometimes do. I don't think they'd single out a the same sex to have sex with. But, of course, I could be wrong.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:51 pm
Well yes, common belief is that only humans and dolphins have sex for pleasure... But if that were the case, why would the animals we've seen display purely gay tendencies do so? The fact fo the matter is that it feels good for everything... And any animal with a certain level of intelligence are likely to realize "I like this" and seek it out more.
With mice and rats it makes sense, they donlt have a breeding season or anything they practically constantly mate. Then penguins... The instinct to mate is still goign to be there, and yet we see individuals pair up as male x male mates. That's a bit harder to explain unless it's just insticnt at work, still getting mating out of the way without increasing the population in a densely overpopulated area.
Then the lizards... I suppose it was wrong to actually call the water dragons lesbians, as one also started mating with tricia's male once she got it. For that individual it may have just been the instinct to breed taking over due to passing seasons and some sort of confusion. I mean't he other one that never mated with the male was a very large individual, and Tricia actually thought it was a male due to it's size and their attempted breeding until it died and had a dissection to determine the cause, just to reveal it had infertile eggs. I guess you can make what you will of that tale, but there was still some "hot lesbian action."
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:11 pm
Hmmm....Well, i see what you're saying, though it still doesn't make sense to me. I don;t think an animal would be smart enough to choose which gender it liked more. I'm guessing homosexual relations between animals would be by accident, not by choice. Of course, as always, I could be wrong.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:22 am
Not smart enough? May I remind you that by scientific definition we are animals, and our cells are virtually no different from those of other species? Hell, are DNA is almist identical to that of pigs and a certain species of parasitic worm. ... Anyhow... Wild animals are a lot smarter than people generally think. When raised in captivity even the common snapping turtle can come to love it's owner, recognize different humans, actively seek out individuals it likes best for attention, and do tricks.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:01 am
Irving Mason Not smart enough? May I remind you that by scientific definition we are animals, and our cells are virtually no different from those of other species? Hell, are DNA is almist identical to that of pigs and a certain species of parasitic worm. ... Anyhow... Wild animals are a lot smarter than people generally think. When raised in captivity even the common snapping turtle can come to love it's owner, recognize different humans, actively seek out individuals it likes best for attention, and do tricks. I suppose that's where our disagreement comes in. I don't believe humans are animals. We're way too different. For example, humans vary very much. No human has the same personality, same looks, same beliefs, etc. We all vary, while animals of a cetain species are basically the same. Sure, anima;ls can be conditioned and trained, but that's not quite the same. I see what you're saying, once again, but I disagree.
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