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Poem
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:26 am


I don't see the point of Christians getting all bent out of shape over this movie.

It's a movie. It's been a book and a theory for YEARS. I'm not threatened by a cinematic craze. If people want to re-base their faith because of fictional characters in a movie, then they never had Faith in the first place.

It's sad that people can be so easily swayed. I just see it as another oppertunity to talk about what i believe in.

What will annoy me is people who might use it (a fictional source) as a reference and then wrinkle their noses when I quote the bible.

What are you thoughts? Truth? Lies? Will you go see it? Should it be banned? Are people pepping this up more than it deserves?
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:32 pm


I actually have some mixed feeling about it. Like you said, it is all fiction. There's close to zero truth to that book. I know that. The problem is though that some people come to believe what it says. I guess only people who aren't so perspicacious would read a fiction book and believe what it says, but the point is it can pull people away from Christ. That is upsetting.

Then again, if they believe it, it's only them exercising their own free will. So, no, i'm not too upset about the movie. I do want to see it since the idea of Angels and Demons (the prequel) is cool to me.

Hayabashi2
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qui12

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:19 pm


If you would be so kind and tell me what this movie is about, I'd be happy to express my thoughts. Thanks guys! mrgreen
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:00 pm


You want to answer that, Poem, or should I?

Hayabashi2
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Chupi the Terrible

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:18 am


I've got no problem taking this, if you two don't mind... Jin, (Mm, nice name. >_> Reminds me of my favorite demons, the djinn/jinn/jinni of Arab lore, who had free will and hence could carry out either good or bad lives. They were even supposed to be able to redeem themselves to be worthy of entering paradise just like any human. [/rant]) the Da Vinci Code was a novel that was essentially about a massive coverup of the truth about Christ by a secretive Christian sect. The general idea is that Da Vinci was a member of this sect and left secret hints of the truth in his art, and that truth was that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and had children in his life time. The sect is a real group, but very different from how the novel portrayed them.

I found it to be an entertaining story myself... But one has to keep in mind that it's pure fiction, although it does bring up some thought provoking ideas. It seems rediculous for people to go out of their way trying to get others not to see it just because of personal opinions... I mean, it's no worse than all those movies that portray pagan religions as baby torturing, virgin sacrificing sociopaths. And the fact that it's known to be fiction sure the hell makes it better to me than all these sites that say the Celts sacrificed babies on Samhain when that goes completely against the core principals of that specific old religion's beliefs.
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:30 pm


I see your point, Irving my friend. I still have some issues with that book, but really, I'm not totally all pissed about it. I'm going to see it just for entertainment value. Tom hanks rules.

Hayabashi2
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Poem
Captain

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:13 pm


Irving Mason
I've got no problem taking this, if you two don't mind... Jin, (Mm, nice name. >_> Reminds me of my favorite demons, the djinn/jinn/jinni of Arab lore, who had free will and hence could carry out either good or bad lives. They were even supposed to be able to redeem themselves to be worthy of entering paradise just like any human. [/rant]) the Da Vinci Code was a novel that was essentially about a massive coverup of the truth about Christ by a secretive Christian sect. The general idea is that Da Vinci was a member of this sect and left secret hints of the truth in his art, and that truth was that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and had children in his life time. The sect is a real group, but very different from how the novel portrayed them.

I found it to be an entertaining story myself... But one has to keep in mind that it's pure fiction, although it does bring up some thought provoking ideas. It seems rediculous for people to go out of their way trying to get others not to see it just because of personal opinions... I mean, it's no worse than all those movies that portray pagan religions as baby torturing, virgin sacrificing sociopaths. And the fact that it's known to be fiction sure the hell makes it better to me than all these sites that say the Celts sacrificed babies on Samhain when that goes completely against the core principals of that specific old religion's beliefs.


Yes. I couldn't have expressed any better than you have here.
I did think about all of the other movies and sitcoms, not to mention comedians, out there who have defecated the names of many things for the sake of jerking a tear or two --amusing or one of sorrow.

The entertainment industry focuses on the play of human emotion. Controversial things sell! When the Passion of the Christ came out there were Jews who were furious about the protrayal of the Jews on the film. They felt that they were targeted in the assasination of Jesus.

There is always going to be someone offended when it comes to artforms --entertainment included.

Art expresses, however it cannot express the ideals of everyone.

i think trying to ban this movie and not allowing it to be JUST a movie will only create suspicion from those who do not believe.

I mean, think about it. The movie is about the Catholic church doing EVERYTHING in their power to conceal these 'truths'. And now that the movie is coming out what is the Catholic church trying to do? It's trying to get you NOT to watch the movie. If I were a non believer, telling me NOT to watch the movie would only make me more curious to see the film. I want to know what it is you don't want me to see.

...and when I see it, I'll know what it was you were hiding. However, if people had my view of the whole thing of telling people that it doesn't phase me or shake what I believe they are going to be a whole lot less hype to see it. When they do is it they will be more likely to view it for what it is. A hyped up movie.
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:20 pm


I see your point. I never thought about how the Jews must have felt when the Passion came out. Then again., back then i wouldn't have cared at all about that movie.



They're trying to ban the movie? Of course that's gonna grow suspicion! I never knew that they were trying to do that.

Hayabashi2
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lollyz

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:29 pm


I think the movie and the book is a load of rubbish!
How can Jesus have a baby? How can the baby be the holy grail?
The things people come up with are soo hilarious/
PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:07 am


LOL. They said Jesus had a baby? Wierd...


I actually heard from movie reviews that the movie isn't very good. I'm still gonna see it, though.

Hayabashi2
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Poem
Captain

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:19 am


Hayabashi 2
LOL. They said Jesus had a baby? Wierd...


I actually heard from movie reviews that the movie isn't very good. I'm still gonna see it, though.


So it's been out for a while. Have you seen it? Any comments? Questions? Was is good?
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:41 pm


No, I haven't seen it. I read a few movie reviews on it though/ Apparentky you just don't care about the characters. You see the characters, but you just don't care. Plus I hear the plot was put together poorly.

Hayabashi2
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Chupi the Terrible

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:59 pm


Well, I went and saw it the day Lilith ate Samael's head. It was decent, but not great... And I never actually finished the novel because my mother lost it on me when I took a break from reading it somewhere in the tenth or eleventh chapter, but the movie seemed to explain everything perfectly. It's not all that much of an original idea... I'm tempted to bring up an old European true story about a priest who left the fold and was actually assassinated by the Catholic church, but I don;t want to offend anybody so I'll just hold my tongue unless you guys WANT to hear it.
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:14 pm


I'm willing to listen 3nodding

Hayabashi2
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Chupi the Terrible

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:12 am


Well, seeing as after 24 hours nobody seems to be opposed... One may also want to notice that the story of the Da Vici Code is by no means original. In fact, it seems to have been based heavily on facts and speculation from books such as "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", "the Jesus Papers: Exposing the Greatest Cover-Up in History", "The Sion Revelation : The Truth About the Guardians of Christ's Sacred Bloodline", "The Jesus Dynasty : The Hidden History of Jesus, His Royal Family, and the Birth of Christianity", and "The Templar Papers: Ancient Mysteries, Secret Societies, And the Holy Grail".

Now... Note that I cannot remember this priest's name or much of anything about him personally. I just know that historically, this really happened:

A priest somewhere in Europe (I thought it was Ireland, but am probably horribly wrong...) one day found a scripture in his church. This scripture had something written on it that was shocking to him and changed him the the short rest of his life. (Nobody knows what it actually was.) He brought the parchment to Italy to confront the higher ups in the church about it, and came back to his home town noticably richer with amounts of money he couldn;t have possibly made with his job. (It's speculated that he may have been bribed by the church.)

Many believe, due to the man's behavior thereafter, that this parchment had written on it evidence that Jesus Christ had survived his time on the cross, (An unlikely, but quite possible task.) was married to Mary Magdalene, and later had multiple children that went on to form royal bloodlines throughout European history. He used his money to make rennovations to the church such as depicting Jesus' followers bringing his limp body through the desert at night, (When scripture says they took him to the cave he was put to rest in during the day. Some think this was them whisking him away under the cover of darkness.) and a statue of Jesus holding a baby boy. (Presumed to be his child due to positionings and garbs.)

The priest went on to build himself a mansion, break his churchly vows, and dive dep into the occult. He was completely disillusioned and seemed to be against the church itself... Even placing a statue of a devil at the gates of the church with an inscription underneath written in Latin that roughly translates to "this place is horrible." His most notable relationship with the occult would be his meetings with a group claiming to be the Priore de Sion and to be protecting the descendants of Christ. Some think that if there was a descendant, that the priest may have actually met him during his life time.

Soon thinks took a bad turn for the man. He became paranoid, worried that the church was going to do something to him... So oddly enough, he broke his pattern of heresy by going into a confessional with another priest. Soon after, he and the priest both wound up dead. He was killed in a style reminiscent of assassins often hired by the church back in those days. His coffin arrived the day he died or the day after, I forget now... But normally it would take days to weeks for such a thing to reach it's destination that far out.

LET IT BE KNOWN! This entire post was thrown together quite sloppily. If I ever get all the information again then I'll try and repost the tale in this thread...
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