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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:55 am
A simple question with a seemingly simple answer - fantasy. However, many of the objects and methods used are scientific by nature. Magic is not just introduced and used, but there is a conscious effort by the author to explain how everything works! These are more characteristics of sci-fi than fantasy, in my opinion. What do you think?
If we get some interesting discussion going I can post a summary in the books forum to see what others think.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:38 pm
In my opinion, this novel defies classification into cut and dried genres, as most of the best books do. It is both Sci-fi and Fantasy and Realism and Romance. That is why it is great. It defies cliches and expectations. For my money, a "Jack of all trades" label would be the best description of this novel.
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:35 am
domokun GoGaia ate my post! *annoyed mumbling*
I agree with the Jack of all trades genre, HDM has quite a lot of elements to it. Personally, I'd say it's got a pinch of Horror as I got a general dark-ish overtone to the story. Moreover, with all the Fantasy/surreal elements in it, there's still some realism ringing through as well, no?
this thread made me itch to read HDM again!!!!
okay, this better be posted!!
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:33 pm
I love the Jack of All Trades way of explaining it! HDM is sooo veratile that you just CAN'T stick a basic genre on it. It delves into religion, social classification, fantasy, romance, and soooooo much more that it doesn't seem right to tie it down to any one thing.
PS, thanks sooo mcuh for posting Alini!
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:51 am
You people are such cheaters! blaugh While I agree that it contains many varied elements, I would ultimately classify it as fantasy myself since the inventions in it aren't logical extrapolations of current science but entirely imagined.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:00 am
I think it's pretty much a mixture of both with a bit of romance: science fiction because of the other worlds and shadow particles, fantasy because of the angels, daemons and all the other weird creatures like mulefas, and romance because ... (that's obvious xd )
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:40 am
I go for fantasy more then science fantasy. maybe mostly because whatever the elemnts used there, it's about a world that doesn't exist in my reality (as far as I know xd ), it has different dimensions, which i still see as a fantasy thing, even though people may try to prove it to me. Yes there is some technology and things but I still don't see them as scientifically described, not much at least.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:51 am
Alini You people are such cheaters! blaugh While I agree that it contains many varied elements, I would ultimately classify it as fantasy myself since the inventions in it aren't logical extrapolations of current science but entirely imagined. Well, actually... that's not so. For example, the way that Dust is captured in the photograph early in the first novel would be similair to techniques used by physicists to view something with say, a spectrometer or some such. Sure, it is a bit of a stretch, but it basically lies in reality. The bits that are fantasy are the major items, the alethiometer or subtle knife. But, mostly, everything lies in the realm of possibility. Well, mostly. At least in Lyra and Will's worlds. The other worlds are something else entirely.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:44 am
Hmm, yes, some of the methods usd are scientific in nature. And of course the physicist int he third book are suppossed to be our mdoern day physicist, so it's obviously grounded in reality there. However the idea of dust is much closer to religion and spirituality than any science.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:36 pm
Well i would say its a mix, there's a number of elements added in. There's sci-fi, fantasy, a hint of romance, religion etc. Its kinda hard to classify books.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:12 pm
Fantasy. While there is some science involved in HDM, most of the story is completely fantastic. There is not as much science as in, Madeline E'Lengle's work, for example, or many others. There is far too much religious dogma, as well as mystical energy and so forth to be considered science fiction, and not enough romance to be considered romantic, either.
The books are overwhelmingly fantasy; just as the fantastic ideas of light speed travel and the Force do not make Star Wars a fantasy, some basic science does not make HDM science fiction.
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:41 am
defently science fiction. most of the books storyline is based on religion. if it was fiction it would hav been made up eh? mabye its fanasty/sci fi?
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:27 pm
There's nothing stopping a book from being both fantasy and sci-fi. HDM is certainly both.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:05 pm
I still go for fantasy, for a very good reason. I see science fiction as fiction that is mostly possible in a certain future, or could have been possible if at some point technology went that a way in our history time line.
Parallel dimensions and worlds that are just there, not explained too much, um, for me it's fantasy. Yes, they use tachnology for this and that, but hey, they are not in the stone age, that still doesn't make them too plausable.
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:42 am
Kittie Katastic I love the Jack of All Trades way of explaining it! HDM is sooo veratile that you just CAN'T stick a basic genre on it. It delves into religion, social classification, fantasy, romance, and soooooo much more that it doesn't seem right to tie it down to any one thing. I agree. 3nodding Is not just one genre. Its almost everything genre in one
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