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Does grammar/spelling/punctuation really matter to you?
  Of course--makes things much easier to read!
  Not really...I'm good at deciphering "leet" speak.
  i ahm numba 1 spella
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RebelJediKnight06

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:45 am


Alright. I'm kinda getting tired of this. The majority of you are pretty good about this, but there are some people posting that kinda drive me nuts.

You know, those posts where there are more numbers and abbreviations than words? Where things are so terribly misspelled that it feels like you have to translate a post from a strange language?

Am I the only one who thinks this way? I hope not.

Looking through the boards, I find that people use no capitalization. They use numbers for letters ALL of the time. Also, like I said before, things are horribly misspelled. Is this all the degeneration of the English language? Are people so stuck on "txt tlk" that they can't fathom typing "to" instead of "2"?

To everyone thinking, "what does it matter if i typ lik dis," I have a question for you. Would you send an e-mail to your teacher looking like that? A term paper? The majority of you are through middle school, right? Maybe through elementary/intermediate school? You should know how to write correctly by now. Why not do it all the time--"bcuz dis is easyer?" "dis" is annoying.

Some guidelines for the grammar impaired:
Instead of numbers, type out the word--it's not that difficult. If you know something is misspelled, go check it in Word/WordPerfect or get a dictionary. Don't use words like "dat" and "dis" when the real word is just two letters off. Capitalize the first word in a sentence like you were taught in Kindergarten, and at least put a period at the end of a sentence so we can know it's a complete thought without having to read your post twice to understand it. Use abbreviations rarely...

For all of those who like "txt tlk," I have a book to suggest for you. The book is named Eats, Shoots and Leaves by Lynne Truss--I had to read it for AP Lit. It explains what's happening to our language today and what we can do about it... Please help fight the "txt tlk" revolution! Post something similar in your other guilds if it's needed!

Love,
The Grammar Fairy
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:28 pm


ya i gree w/ u. peeps wo tlk lyk this shod go bk 2 skool

Lessien_Telemnar


covo

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:04 pm


Yay for literacy!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:59 pm


I love you.

Seriously, everything you said was true. Except maybe the spelling part...I'm okay with a few misspelled words here and there, but that's becuase I do that. I'm a terrible speller. But when every other word is misspelled, there's a problem. And for me, typing "2" takes longer than typing "to", since I use touch-typing but never learned the numbers right.

The thing that bugs me the most with what you said is a post like this:


Quote:
i lyk harry potter a lot i think its really cool i hav an idea bout harry potter we shud make a guild for harry potter we can hav the common rooms nd a rp subforum nd maby a petition 4 hp cloths on gaia nd we can talk bout the books movies nd stuff whut do u think i think it wud b a rly good idea nd wuld work well so tell me what u think k


I just think: You do know that they put that period, comma, and question mark button there for a reason, right? You're supposed to USE THEM.

Spastic waffles


[Hollow Point]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:04 pm


I love you, will you marry me?


I used to go to a very expensive private school my parents couldnt afford it but thought it would benefit me, now im homeschooled, I was D's and F's I am now A's and B's I even got a who's who letter in the mail! Now the kids that go to a 15,000 dollar school that goes up 10% every year type like that, I always correct their spelling and then they dont even try to correct it spelling "cool" as "kool" and when I yell at them they say "hy f** u," it is nearly to such an extent that I want to rip out my eyes. If not for Gaians just like you, I too would still type like a retard.

thanks,
Morgan
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:58 pm


I bow down to you!!! Grammer! Yes!!!!

[.Chipped.Not.Broken.]


RebelJediKnight06

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:33 am


Maybe I will marry you, Morgan...maybe I will. You are a bit younger than me, though.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:36 am


AMEN

SwiSS cAkE RolL


kitsunemajin90

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:08 pm


Finally someone who just said it. Personally, I'm getting sick of all the text talk. I do understand a couple of misspelled (English is one of the most difficult languages out there) but don't just take out letters completely. And please use puncation! I'm a fanfic author and I just can't stand it when I don't see periods, commas, or other such things when I read different posts.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:50 pm


The only reson my spelling and grammer suck is becasue I have a learing disability in engligh, but I do work hard to inprove myself in this area. I agree that grammer and spelling is inportant. If I didn't I wouldn't put up with that damn red pen from my sister and my friends who proof read anything that I write. Wither it's fanfics for papers for school. It's very inportant.

LeighMae


Aari-chan

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:45 pm


*bows and worships Rebel* I love you. Thank you! If there's anything that gets me pissed off more than anything it's the annoying, frustrating, hair-pulling, maddening and murdersome text talk. I HATE it. With a passion that surprises most of my friends. Those that have the knowledge should use it.

And LeighMae, you are even more amazing then all of us that have a problem with grammar mistakes because you're desperately striving to bring yourself to the level in which your grammar doesn't annoy the irritable ones like us. Bravo! I virtually hug you. xp

Rebel and LeighMae, I applaud you both, and anyone else that gets annoyed at the desecration shown in "txt tlk" (Gah, I need to scrub my hands for typing that... eww) You're all my heroes!
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:18 pm


Yeah, it does get pretty annoying when people use "txt tlk". Wow, that was hard not typing out the full word. Haha. I admit that on some posts and other places, I don't bother using capitalization though.

Anyways, Eats, Shoots and Leaves sounds interesting. whee

camouflage_girl


Aari-chan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:19 pm


Just a side note for all of you fellow grammar fairies, but I found something that had me laughing throughout the entire thing. It's a chapter from a fanfiction that's mocking the various typical fan fictions. I thought you all would like it, as it has to do with mocking the illiterate few that decide to frequent the internet....
citygirl1116

The Defendant: SupaSexcPotterChiq

Accused of: Appalling Spelling, Grammar, and Punctuation

After the dramatic conclusion of the first fanfiction trial, the courtroom is again packed with spectators. Ms. Canon is again seated at the prosecution table, unruffled by the media attention. At the defense table, another teenage girl, as they seem to be the most common offenders. Younger than the first defendant, she looks defiant. She is wearing a very short skirt and shoes with 3 inch soles.

Again, a hush falls as the judge, Albus Dumbledore enters. He smiles warmly at Ms. Canon, and then turns to the defendant.

“You are the author known as SupaSexcPotterChiq?”

“yah so” She replies defiantly.

“You stand accused of having appalling spelling, grammar, and punctuation, making your fic unreadable to anyone who speaks standard English. How do you plead?”

“i dunno wut ur talkin bout” The girl replies.

Dumbledore raises his eyebrows at Ms. Canon. “Dear me, I think we may need a translator for this one. Well, I think she was trying to say “not guilty”, so let’s proceed. Ms. Canon?”

“Thank you Sir. I’d like to call the Defendant.”

The girl, dressed in clothes entirely inappropriate for her age, approaches the stand. When she is seated, our young lawyer looked at her pensively.

“Are you American?” She finally asks.

“lik duh”

“So it is safe to assume your first language is English?”

“wuteva”

Desperately, Ms. Canon looks to Dumbledore.

“Please answer these questions with a yes or no Miss.” He instructs.

“Are you aware of a feature on your computer known as “spell check”? I believe it comes standard on most word processing programs.”

The girl looks completely blank. Ms. Canon sighs.

“Are you the author of the fic called Hary n 6th yer?”

“yeah”

“With the court’s permission I will read the summary exactly as it appears.” She clears her throat. “hary n ron n hermoinie r n ther 6 yer so i totaly suk @ summaries but mah fic iz rily kewl so ya RR k? hary rulz n iz HOTT.” Ms. Canon set down the paper containing the summary as though it was highly distasteful. “Let me ask you,” She began delicately. “Have you actually read the Harry Potter books?”

“duh no cuz readin sukz but i wen 2 da moovies”

A murmur goes through the courtroom, mostly because they cannot understand what she said. But those who did understand are appalled.

Ms. Canon has the look of a person trying very hard to maintain her patience. “Will you please give us an outline of the plot of your fic?”

“wut”

“The plot, Miss. Surely your fic has a plot?”

“wuts dat”

“What happens in the fic?” She says, through her clenched teeth.

“o hary n ron n herminoe goez bak 2 hogwortz 4 der 6th yer n dey fite Volmedrot n dey falz n luv”

Helplessly, Ms. Canon turns to Dumbledore. “Sir, I don’t even know what else to ask. Clearly she’s illiterate.” She considers her notes. “It would seem that throughout the fic the only words she actually managed to spell correctly were “no” and “ron”, although at several points she does refer to said character as “rupert”, which I believe is the name of the actor portraying him in the films. And I suppose you might say she managed to spell “I” correctly, although that is debatable given her lack of capitalization.” She picks up a sheet of parchment marked in green ink. “I would like to read a letter I received today in relation to this case. Dear Ms. Canon and Headmaster, While previous engagements prevent us from attending the trial taking place today, we would like to express our support for the service you are doing for the wizarding world. Fics such as the one to be discussed in the courtroom are the sort that promote the myth that all fancfiction writers are teenage illiterates. We, along with our creator Ms. Rowling, welcome fics that observe the proper linguistic rules and treat ourselves and our fellow characters with respect. We applaud you for knowing the difference. Sincerely, Harry Potter, Ronald Weasley, and Hermione Granger.”

Dumbledore turns to the author. “Miss, do you have anything else to say in your own defense?”

“u pplz r lam”

“Quite. Well, I think that is all we need to hear.” He bangs the gavel with undisguised enjoyment. “Guilty on all counts!”

The Verdict: Guilty



The Sentence: The convicted author is sentenced to return to the first grade and repeat all schooling in the hope that this time she will grasp the basic rules of English.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:23 pm


Aari-chan
Just a side note for all of you fellow grammar fairies, but I found something that had me laughing throughout the entire thing. It's a chapter from a fanfiction that's mocking the various typical fan fictions. I thought you all would like it, as it has to do with mocking the illiterate few that decide to frequent the internet....
citygirl1116

The Defendant: SupaSexcPotterChiq

Accused of: Appalling Spelling, Grammar, and Punctuation

After the dramatic conclusion of the first fanfiction trial, the courtroom is again packed with spectators. Ms. Canon is again seated at the prosecution table, unruffled by the media attention. At the defense table, another teenage girl, as they seem to be the most common offenders. Younger than the first defendant, she looks defiant. She is wearing a very short skirt and shoes with 3 inch soles.

Again, a hush falls as the judge, Albus Dumbledore enters. He smiles warmly at Ms. Canon, and then turns to the defendant.

“You are the author known as SupaSexcPotterChiq?”

“yah so” She replies defiantly.

“You stand accused of having appalling spelling, grammar, and punctuation, making your fic unreadable to anyone who speaks standard English. How do you plead?”

“i dunno wut ur talkin bout” The girl replies.

Dumbledore raises his eyebrows at Ms. Canon. “Dear me, I think we may need a translator for this one. Well, I think she was trying to say “not guilty”, so let’s proceed. Ms. Canon?”

“Thank you Sir. I’d like to call the Defendant.”

The girl, dressed in clothes entirely inappropriate for her age, approaches the stand. When she is seated, our young lawyer looked at her pensively.

“Are you American?” She finally asks.

“lik duh”

“So it is safe to assume your first language is English?”

“wuteva”

Desperately, Ms. Canon looks to Dumbledore.

“Please answer these questions with a yes or no Miss.” He instructs.

“Are you aware of a feature on your computer known as “spell check”? I believe it comes standard on most word processing programs.”

The girl looks completely blank. Ms. Canon sighs.

“Are you the author of the fic called Hary n 6th yer?”

“yeah”

“With the court’s permission I will read the summary exactly as it appears.” She clears her throat. “hary n ron n hermoinie r n ther 6 yer so i totaly suk @ summaries but mah fic iz rily kewl so ya RR k? hary rulz n iz HOTT.” Ms. Canon set down the paper containing the summary as though it was highly distasteful. “Let me ask you,” She began delicately. “Have you actually read the Harry Potter books?”

“duh no cuz readin sukz but i wen 2 da moovies”

A murmur goes through the courtroom, mostly because they cannot understand what she said. But those who did understand are appalled.

Ms. Canon has the look of a person trying very hard to maintain her patience. “Will you please give us an outline of the plot of your fic?”

“wut”

“The plot, Miss. Surely your fic has a plot?”

“wuts dat”

“What happens in the fic?” She says, through her clenched teeth.

“o hary n ron n herminoe goez bak 2 hogwortz 4 der 6th yer n dey fite Volmedrot n dey falz n luv”

Helplessly, Ms. Canon turns to Dumbledore. “Sir, I don’t even know what else to ask. Clearly she’s illiterate.” She considers her notes. “It would seem that throughout the fic the only words she actually managed to spell correctly were “no” and “ron”, although at several points she does refer to said character as “rupert”, which I believe is the name of the actor portraying him in the films. And I suppose you might say she managed to spell “I” correctly, although that is debatable given her lack of capitalization.” She picks up a sheet of parchment marked in green ink. “I would like to read a letter I received today in relation to this case. Dear Ms. Canon and Headmaster, While previous engagements prevent us from attending the trial taking place today, we would like to express our support for the service you are doing for the wizarding world. Fics such as the one to be discussed in the courtroom are the sort that promote the myth that all fancfiction writers are teenage illiterates. We, along with our creator Ms. Rowling, welcome fics that observe the proper linguistic rules and treat ourselves and our fellow characters with respect. We applaud you for knowing the difference. Sincerely, Harry Potter, Ronald Weasley, and Hermione Granger.”

Dumbledore turns to the author. “Miss, do you have anything else to say in your own defense?”

“u pplz r lam”

“Quite. Well, I think that is all we need to hear.” He bangs the gavel with undisguised enjoyment. “Guilty on all counts!”

The Verdict: Guilty



The Sentence: The convicted author is sentenced to return to the first grade and repeat all schooling in the hope that this time she will grasp the basic rules of English.


*falls over laughing* I love it!!!!! Effing brilliant!

RebelJediKnight06


Queen Cranberry

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:31 am


I have dyslexia very bad, and have enough trouble reading and writing without the "leet" talk.
So yes if I see a post like that, really I can't read it all too well just because
I have a hard time with numbers.

I'm ok with some slang, its good to have fun, but take it to the extreme its
not very pretty.

Edit: That was funny, thanks for sharing that post.
So sad I live in a town where people really can't read.
I recently purchased a book from our super Wal-Mart, which is the only
place in town to buy books sadly. I went to check out and the cashier looked
at it saying. "I wish I could read these, how long does it take for you to read these?"
Me and my husband just kinda stood there freaked out.

Sad that you can go though school and not learn. =(
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