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PhaseBurn

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:54 pm


Ima copy this from the other Linux guild and update it a little...

Gentoo: What I currently run on 50+ systems, ranging from desktops to servers to routers to embedded devices. Gentoo is the best distro I've ever used by far, and I look forward to it's continued growth and development... Source based to squeeze performance, and allowing you to totally tweak and customize your system the way you want it, you won't end up with the extra cruft that other distros force you to install.

Red Hat: 5.x was great, 6.x was good, 7.x was ok, anything later is IMO a joke. That includes Fedora, which I haven't used, but won't due to Red Hat's history, and the stories I've heard from others who have. Red Hat as far as I'm concerned is the Windows of the linux world.

Debian: Nice layout, nice ambitions, feels too dated though. I want a fresh, modern distro. Gentoo is in. Debian doesn't seem to fit the bill any more. I'm just not apt to it any longer...

Slackware: First, and still one of the best. But they're resistant to change. So many better ideas for doing things have passed them by...

Mandriva: Formerly based on Red Hat, now a hodgepodge of a Red Hat clone merged with Connectiva, it's a horrible server, and a pig of a desktop. I hated it. But a lot of novices seem to like it. It's Windows XP to Red Hat's Windows 2000.

Corel: Debian based, which was nice, with a commercial backing. Wasn't my thing, but didn't have many complaints from my limited use of it. More desktop oriented. Also no longer supported.

Lycoris: Very nice system, and one of the ones I recommend for office workstations. I can't stand using it personally, but it's a very well-laid out distro with a lot of nice features. Too limited for my liking though.

TurboLinux: Eww

Thiz Linux: Eww x 2

Knoppix: Nice. KDE, though - blah...

Knoppix STD: This is a more serious Live CD. It has many tools like packet sniffers, Windows password crackers, and many other things that may get you in trouble or save your friend's computer when he forgot his Windows XP login password.

Gnoppix: Very nice. Gnome version of Knoppix. Too many bugs compared to Knoppix though...

Puppy Linux: Shoot yourself.

SuSE: The perfect balance of linuxes for the novice. Debian like, Red Hat like, Slackware like, and yet in it's own class. This is the first distro I recommend to people usually who can't get Gentoo up and running...

Ubuntu: Based on debian, it's a modern distro built on a stable core. Still using binary packages, it sacrafices a little performance to provide speed and ease of use as well as administration. Great for beginners and advanced users alike, though not as customizable as Gentoo or other source-based builds. If you go binary, give this a try.

Slax: A very nice little Live-CD OS. comes in Server edition, standard edition, Popcorn edition, and a core version that is just the main command line. It's pretty nice, in the months that i use it as an OS. It auto-detects and configures any ethernet connection, and is ready to go from the start.

And then there's the BSDs...

OpenBSD: Ever since Theo went no-show at defcon one year, and I was sitting next to where he was supposed to be, waiting to argue over pfsync with him, I've lost respect for it. Between the recent security problems and the no-show there because their FTP server got rooted, I've kinda been dissapointed. Older OpenBSD was great. The new turn they're taking, however, concerns me.

NetBSD: It runs on anything, including the toaster. Unless you need it on the toaster, use something else though.

FreeBSD: I don't like the direction these guys have taken either. 4.x is awesome. 5.x I won't touch with a 10 foot cat5 cable.

DragonflyBSD: This is a fork of FreeBSD 4.x and is working on merging it with old school OpenBSD... I'm very much happy for these guys, and love their preview releases so far... Can't wait for this to mature a bit more...

Other things Unixy...

Solaris: 8 was nice. 9 was nicer. 10 has some mild issues. Either way, Sparc hardware + gentoo > solaris any day.

QNX: Very interesting OS. I'm not sure if I like it or hate it just yet though...

BeOS: I miss Be...

MacOS X: Nice... Unixy... Commercially supported. User Friendly. I still like my gentoo over it, but, it has potential... now if we could only get an x86 version with a 3 button mouse, and GTK instead of Cocoa/Carbon...

HPUX: Hewlet Packart made a good solid system that's widly used. Good commercial support, good on resources, not overly friendly to those new to unix or familiar with linux, however. Moderatly advanced.

DUX: Digital Unix is pretty much dead, but still should be mentioned as it was a very strong runner up till Digital was bought out by Compaq, which then merged with HP. At one time, even more popular than HPUX.

Irix: SGI makes killer hardware. Most of it finds its way to being used to process motion video, doing CGI for movies, etc. More and more of them however are switching over to running linux instead of Irix due to some issues stemming back from it's 1970s codebase. Still a good solid OS, but its age is showing in places where throwing more CPU cycles and/or RAM at peices doesn't work.

These are of course my impressions... Feel free to write your own opinions and the like as well. Anybody who wants to write a full review is more than welcome to do so... I'll prolly start at the top of the list, myself...

The only thing to keep in mind is that everybody is entitled to their opinion, so unless you have facts to back up yours, don't attack anybody else's. I encourage debates. Flames and personal attacks will not be tolerated. Further more, take things with a very large grain of salt as necessary. Remember: Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and it usually stinks...
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:55 pm


I will be overhauling this a little bit and breaking it down into more than just a couple line summary over the next week.

Anybody who's used some of these distros please feel free to reply - I haven't used them all, but because of my job, I've touched them all at some point, though probably not the latest versions of it...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:23 pm


Damn Small Linux - Very nice thing to put on a mini-cd and keep in your computer kit. Very handy and useful for many things. It's basically a Linux distro under 50 megs with lots of tools and programs. You can make it run off the CD-ROM or have it run off of a RAM disk. Very useful.
Knoppix STD - This is a more serious Live CD. It has many tools like packet sniffers, Windows password crackers, and many other things that may get you in trouble or save your friend's computer when he forgot his Windows XP login password.
Puppy Linux - Shoot yourself.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:03 pm


Slax: (http://slax.linux-live.org) a very nice little Live-CD OS. comes in Server edition, standard edition, Popcorn edition (a version that fits on a 128mb flash drive with room to spare) and a core version that is just the main command line.

it's pretty nice, in the months that i use it as an OS (sort of a mini-mobile-workstation xD) it auto-detects and configures any ethernet connection, and is ready to go from the start.



Pssst. hey PhaseBurn, OS X is now designed for x86 Architecture, as the new apple computers (except for the G5 powermac) are all on intel processors :3
OS X can also run on the Dell X1 and universal binaries of it can run on most other systems.

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PhaseBurn

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:10 am


Yea, updated...

As I said, that post was ripped from the other linux forum where it was initially done over a year ago...

Funny how little things have changed smile

Still no *real* x86 version though... And by that I mean a box (not a computer) I can buy at BestBuy that I can install on any x86 PC... (or AMD64)...

Till that happens, I don't care if Apple's using HampsterAndWheel CPUs - it's still not accessible to people who refuse to buy their hardware, aka, 95% of the market...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:04 pm


I hear a couple people comparing Gentoo and Arch (even though yes they are very very different) so was curious if you had any thoughts on Arch linux?

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PhaseBurn

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:02 am


jobyjoby
I hear a couple people comparing Gentoo and Arch (even though yes they are very very different) so was curious if you had any thoughts on Arch linux?


To be honest I've never used it. I've heard the usual "Yea, it's great" from the zealots, and the "Dude, it sucks" from the Fedora/Ubuntu users, but with out having any first hand experience I can't really proffer an opinion at this time.

From the gentoo community's general experiences, they've said it was generally nice, but I don't know anybody who's preferred it over gentoo - yet...

I'll have to give it a shot sometime - once I get a new KVM, I'll have a spare box to install random distros on and use... So, I'll be sure to give it a try...
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:23 am


I know its definitely possible to run OS X on about any machine regardless if its Apple hardware or not. I, for one, have done it myself(Ran OS 10.4 on my AMD64). The only prerequisite for running OS X on just any computer I can think of is that the processor must be of x86 architecture, and support SSE2 and SSE3 instruction sets.

Of all the distributions i've run(Several, let me tell you. Never did anything much but tinker around with them though) I liked SuSE the best. It had by far the best(albeit slowest) Package Manager i've used(though I have yet to use Gentoo's "emerge") and for me had the nicest interface(aside from KDE, it had the flashiest login i've seen in a while). I'm sure once I actually get it installed i'll prefer gentoo, from what i've heard from various users.

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