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 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:09 pm
This topic was sparked by a somewhat new issue in my life. When I moved here (to Ohio) I found that a lot of parents have become extremely sue happy. Example, last year, a girl didn't make the cheerleading team even though she had been captain the year before. Her parents threatened a lawsuit, and she was not only put on the team, she was made captain. In 9th Grade, we took tests to get into an AP English course. The test was brutal; I felt like a total a** when I was done. It was a whole damn lot of hard work. I found out later that I was accepted. I felt really great about it.
When the next year started, I heard one of the girls had gotten in because her parents had threatened a lawsuit on the school. She had one of the lowest scores, but she was allowed in anyways. The same girl ran for student council. Her parents called in and made sure that her name
was first on the election ballot; again they threatened to sue.
((She lost anyways! xd ))
There have also been kids who hurt themselves in sports doing something they weren't supposed to.
Answer? Sue the school.
My neighbor is another example. We had an intimate time with each other once, then he panicked, rushed me out of his house. He had used me. Not only that, but that afternoon, he told his parents that I had raped him. They threatened legal action. If they did take it to court, I would have to provide my own lawyer. My parents didn't do it, so
why would they have to pay? I'm 16, I can make my own decisions. Whereas if he wanted, his parents would pay out the a** to get him the best lawyer, even if they knew he was wrong and just didn't want to accept that their son was gay.
And then you have the kids who commit violent crimes. All they have to do is say "GTA made me do it!" It makes the game look bad, and the
parents are made out to be bad, but they accept it, just to get little Jimmy off the hook. It doesn't matter if the kid's even played GTA. He'll be in court saying 'Oh, the game make you shoot cops and have sex with hookers or you'll die!' and the jury will just soak it in out of sympathy.
This is a frightening trend, and frankly
it has me worried with how the world
will turn out in the coming decades.
Is anyone else as upset/worried about this as I?
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:23 pm
People are to concerned on how far up their kids are on the food chain of school. If you truely think about it, the kids who are most popular, most doated upon, are likely never to leave their parents houses, and they fail most in life. As for some, who have to work hard to get any respect just because they dress different, act different, are out of other 'norm' that they have to struggle harder to get any sort of GOOD actknowlegement. I mean the poor nerds get treated like crap cause they accually care about their futures rather than the Now like everyone else, yet they will end up being the person that picked on them's boss. Some parents just want to see their kids exceed in the stuff they failed at and will do whatever it takes to get them their. I see it here at my school. I know my friends and I get judged cause we dont dress in whats 'in fashion' at the time, or the fact that I have more earrings than the average person, *laughs*. I just dont see why parents are so concerned on where their child is on the totum pole now as to where they should be in the future. I am only 16 and I have to work hard to get where I am wanting to go for my future. My step-cousin is a cheerleader and a p***k. She has had plastic surgery on her nose at least once already and because she told a black girl to go back to the cotton feilds along with our black principal (in the pressence of this principal mind you) and got her nose broken and 2 black eyes and the holy crud beat out of her, her parents are trying to sue the principal for prevoiking their daughter. Personally, I enjoyed hearing about her getting the crap beat out of her cause she is a selfish p***k who only cares about herself and her social statis, and frankly I have tried for years to bring her off her high pedistal, but i think she finally got the point. (havent seen or heard from her since the fight)
But back to the point... My step aunt is being stupid for trying to sue the principal cause he was just passing through when the girls where arguing with each other, and she knows that, but she doesnt want her precious daughter to loose her high place in the High Schools Social Totum Pole.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:11 pm
I've been seeing that a lot lately, not necessarily just in my town but everywhere. It's become insane.
Of course, what can anyone do to fix it? Americans are so fixated on remaining at the so called "top of the food chain" that they would do anything, no matter how insane or dishonest, for a title.
I fear for our future, too.
"This is the future of America. Be afraid, be very afraid. . ."
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:16 pm
Since I have never personally experienced anything like the examples you provided, it was never an issue in my mind. But now that you've got me thinking about it, people suing to get out of their problems is a big issue. I guess they do it so often because they know it will work. People with money always seem to think that money will get them out of all their problems.
"My poor little angel stuart? He would never start a huge fight and break a kids nose on the football field! I know my poor little baby wouldn't hurt a fly! He's the best football player in the world! Let me just call up my lawyer. He'll straighten things out. My boy needs to be number one. Just like me. A nice lawsuit oughta do the trick."
None of these parents ever want to think that their kids could do wrong. I'm perfect, so my kid must be perfect too. They want to be able to brag about their kid being cheerleading captain or in AP English. They simply cannot accept that their kid isn't the best, because he/she is their kid, and they are the best. They have all this money to be the best, and they an use it to ensure that them and their family stays the best. Everyone does not matter. No one else's kid matters, because their kid isn't the kid of rich Mr and Mrs so-and-so. Rich Mr and Mrs. so-and-so can buy their way out of their problems, and their offsprings problems. What's money for anyway? After you've bought them the clothes to look the best, if the school doesn't allow them to be the best, then it's the school's fault, and the school can and always will be bought at a price. No price is too high for mommy and daddy's precious widdle angel. That angel stands for them. That angel is what other people can look at and say, "Wow. Look at Stuart. Mr. and Mrs. so-and-so are so great. They raised him to be such an outstanding member of society." Rich kids are their parent's walking billboards. they will pay anything to make sure their billboards are clean and advertising correctly.
It's a shame. Money can do anything in America. Everyone has their price. It definitely is truely frightening to see money's effects on our society.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:46 pm
I've never seen or heard anything like those examples happen in Canada but I kno they do happen in the States. I think it might have to do with the mentality of the people. People sue over the smallest things it seems while in Canada we just can't be bothered.
Schools just aren't scared of children and they're hotheaded parents, least all the schools in my region. In both French highschools and the 5-6 English ones, each are pretty hard-a** when it comes to dealing with parents and children alike. We've had parents threaten to sue before and more often or not, the school district calls their bluff and parents back down.
As for faulty sexual assault claims, some people do still have the nerve to try it (One case in a nearby town had a woman claimed that the deputy mayor sexually assaulted her which was proven faulty). Because we have no other news to watch, these cases are so well documentedby the local paper that everyone knew the man was wrongly accused by the end of it and it has not caused any damage to his career.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:46 pm
Hm. There isn't a lot of that going on where I live; however, I've heard of this happening. Personally, I believe that parents go to such extremes because they are afraid of being known as "bad" parents. Many times, kids who are not well off in society are often proclaimed to have a "bad background". The blame is placed soley (or mostly) on the parents. Thus, many parents try to avoid this shame by placing their children high on the totem pole.
Also, many parents feel that if their child is not perfect, they themeselves are a failure. They want to do everything to avoid the burden of failure.
In the end, these kids don't become indpendent; they are public fools. Most Americans know someone just like this.
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:23 pm
Y'know, my typical respose to threats about lawyers is this -
"Have at it, it'll cost me less to give you your winnings than it will for either of us to get a lawyer. Besides, what chance do you think you'll have trying to take a typical high school mini-drama to an official court? On top of the unlikeliness of your getting a case, teenagers can't sue or be sued until 18 here. Good luck with getting Mommy and Daddy to foot the bill to soothe your hurt feelings."
It tends to work extremely effectively, as most of these kids are just making bluffs. They go shooting their pretentious little mouths off, and when you cut them down to realistic size, they start whining about court. Simple solution? Know more about it than they do. All these kids understand is that a court is a place to sue someone, to sue is to get a punishment given to someone, and a lawyer is firepower. It ain't tough to outgun someone with such a limited scope.
My school vice principals happen to share this view with me. THe effective head honcho of the three actually responded to a legal threat once while I was managing my courses with him with the line "Do you really think the courts care that your son failed a course because of low test marks? As far as any reasonable individual is concerned, that's how you're SUPPOSED to fail them." I barely restrained the laughter at that line.
Anyway, if it's the parents threatening the school, can you really say the kid is the immature one? No - it's the ones that are SUPPOSED to know better that need to grow up. I expect this level of dumbassery from high school cheerleaders and the jock squads on sports teams, but parents should really be smarter than their idiotic offspring.
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