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 Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:19 am
im not really sure about abortion and whether its murder or not. Based on Buddhist writing and law, what do you think?
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:07 pm
Murder is, legally, the unlawful killing of one person by another with malice aforethought. Abortion does not fit this because:
1. Abortion is legal, at least in some countries
2. The fetus is not legally a person until it is born
3. There is no desire to for the fetus to suffer
Homicide is a closer term. The killing of one person by another. Personhood is opionated, so... yeah.
We should avoid taking lives. And the fetus is a life. Then again, we take the lives of thousands of micro-organisms when we breathe. So I don't really know.
I have no problem with others getting abortions, but I probably would not. It's not my business to meddle with other women's uteruses.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:48 pm
Following some early Buddhist scriptures, it's breaking the First Precept. Abortion: A Buddhist Perspective This site will explain better then I could. But then again, didn't Buddha say to question everything..
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:13 pm
Thank you for posting this - I read this a while ago and I do agree with what it has to say. That abortion is wrong in principle, but that sometimes it would cause more harm for the mother to have the child. You have to consider what kind of life that child would lead. Would the child be wanted? Is the parent able to provide and educate the child properly? If not, the child could grow up leading a very difficult life - and the parent(s) would suffer as well. When looking at the issue of abortion, one cannot isolate the abortion itself. You must view every consequence of having and not having an abortion. Only by maintaining mindful perspective can one make the most wise and compassionate decision regarding it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:51 am
I believe abortion is wrong. Once the egg in a woman is fertilized, it somewhat means that it is a human. I hope you can all follow. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:02 am
Rin Solaris Thank you for posting this - I read this a while ago and I do agree with what it has to say. That abortion is wrong in principle, but that sometimes it would cause more harm for the mother to have the child. You have to consider what kind of life that child would lead. Would the child be wanted? Is the parent able to provide and educate the child properly? If not, the child could grow up leading a very difficult life - and the parent(s) would suffer as well. When looking at the issue of abortion, one cannot isolate the abortion itself. You must view every consequence of having and not having an abortion. Only by maintaining mindful perspective can one make the most wise and compassionate decision regarding it. It's not even that much that makes me own the "sometimes it's okay" ideal - what if, by allowing the child to be carried to term, you stand a high chance of killing both mother and child? People who are not developed enough to carry children, or special case pregnancies (like one my mother had, an ectopic, where the implantation occurs outside the uterus, in the tubes) can and will kill both mother and child if allowed to continue to term.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:41 pm
I may seem like a rude person but... "I don't care." Sadly it is true. This matter does not effect me so I need not worry of it. If I were to become pregent I say I let it be born. I'm smart enought not to do 'anything' at times were it can happen and it will be unwanted. If a matter of rape then I say I do not want it. It would remind me of pains. I would not have a emotional atactment to 'it'. Nither do the other mothers would chose to.
But I belive I will never need to this and therefore need not bother with the matter. In other words "It's not my problem".
I sound so mean it's not cool.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:21 am
I agree with those that say it all depends on the situation. Hitler's mother was considering an abortion until her doctor talked her out of it, and as a result she gave birth to a child that suffered greatly in his life and brought about a great deal of suffering to others because of it. You can't point a finger at abortion as a whole and say "That's wrong--it's murder and unfair to the child". There's too many other factors involved, most especially the quality of life the child will have if brought into the world. Some would argue that you can just put the child up for adoption if you wouldn't be able to provide for him or her, but what they don't realize is how many children spend their entire childhoods in foster homes and uncertain situations because no one wants to adopt them.
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:55 am
I don't think it's murder, & I support abortion. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:56 pm
Avani Murder is, legally, the unlawful killing of one person by another with malice aforethought. Abortion does not fit this because: 1. Abortion is legal, at least in some countries 2. The fetus is not legally a person until it is born 3. There is no desire to for the fetus to suffer Homicide is a closer term. The killing of one person by another. Personhood is opionated, so... yeah. We should avoid taking lives. And the fetus is a life. Then again, we take the lives of thousands of micro-organisms when we breathe. So I don't really know. I have no problem with others getting abortions, but I probably would not. It's not my business to meddle with other women's uteruses. Avani 2. The fetus is not legally a person until it is born Says who? In my opinion, it is murder, because youre taking a life that is about to be.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:06 pm
Shokai Says who? In my opinion, it is murder, because youre taking a life that is about to be. The government. I realize that personhood is opinionated, and I respects all views of it. But murder is a legal term, that requires a born (or viable) human being.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:11 pm
i have mixed feelings about it.....
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:02 pm
I don't exactly support abortion, but I don't exactly go against it , either. I do support the woman's right to choose for herself, however.
I get a bit annoyed when I hear people that denounce abortion, then go and say that it's okay in the case of a rape ( no offense meant to anyone, just my opinion). What, so it's the baby's fault that it's the result of a rape? Thos that make its life worth less than a child who was conceived willingly?
I'll stop before I get on my soapbox now.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:25 pm
Shigure Kurosaki I believe abortion is wrong. Once the egg in a woman is fertilized, it somewhat means that it is a human. I hope you can all follow. sweatdrop What you are saying is true. I believe with this statement.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:31 pm
I feel it is the extinction of a life, and thus should be avoided, but, whether or not to have an abortion depends on the situation.
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