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So, I was sorta writing a fic in my head on this, and I wanted opinions. If Vegeta had the company of a more "saiyanish" Goku, who was either raised on Vegetasei or simply more aggressive as a person but probably submissive to Vegeta's title, would he prefer that?

I mean this in both the romantic and platonic sense. The romantic/idealist in me wants to say he and that version of Goku are meant to go together, that they fit each other and their roles coincide (in the friends sense as well). But I can see that a Goku that didn't want Vegeta to change would also be appealing. What do you think?

Do NOT post to say you don't support V/G, instead respond to the theory in the platonic aspects of it.

Well, if you ask me, I could see it go either way. But then again, I think it depends on at what age Vegeta would be at. Near the end of Z, his values started to change, and he seemed to be a bit more mellow. I think in the beginning when he first came with Nappa he'd want the more saiyan-like aggressive behavior other saiyan males had. But by the end of Z, I could see him settling for Goku the way he is.

I think that Vegeta would prefer Goku over a Kakkarot. Al the reasons he hates goku are the reasons he loves him. The fact that goku would save him, that fact that goku isn't sacred of him, the fact that he isnt submissive to vegeta's title of prince but he still knows that Vegeta is his prince. Vegeta Would prefer a Goku because goku opens vegeta up to his other side. The side that usually never comes out. He opened Vegeta up to becoming more tolerant and actually loving in some aspects. Even in the television show, (where there is not relationhsip between them) Goku opens Vegeta up and teaches him how to live how to not be evil. I think that if Vegeta met Kakkarot from the start he would have been all like "I am your Prince do as you are told" Kakkarot would be nothing but a slave/ worrier that would fight alongside of him. He wouldn't be his friend. Goku was the one who showed true trust and friendship to vegeta.

As much as Vegeta complains about his preciouse kakkarot he will always be the happy-go-lucky goku that vegeta truely likes. And i think that is the reason vegeta likes goku, because goku is different from him.

well thats my thought.

I also think that if Goku would suddenly turn "kakkarot" Vegeta would actually be scared, because Goku is stronger then him and owuld be ruthless and evil.

so there! 4laugh Hope that was helpfull... hope i made sense sweatdrop

I agree with you in large part, Rane, except that I don't think Goku would be stronger than Vegeta if he wasn't "pure and innocent." I think his strength is dependent on his virtuousity bc of the way Akira wrote it. So would Vegeta like a smarter, tougher, less innocent Goku? I mean, just bc Vegeta is drawn to him doesn't mean he wouldn't change some aspect of him.

(Awesome discussion idea, by the way, Veta. ^^)

Yeah i do agree that it does depend on what Vegeta we talk about. For sure the Beggining vegeta would like a kakkarot.
But when i speak of the vegeta after the cell Saga I think he likes goku for the fact that he is his total opposite, it pisses him off but i think also attracts him. I think that Vegeta also likes to talk to Goku about his past and planet Vegeta, he likes to educate goku... at least thats what i think. And goku will educate him in his ways. I think that they make a better couple as Vegeta and Goku then Vegeta/Kakkarot. As G/V They tend to play off of eachother better. If Goku was kakkarot Him and vegeta would be very similar in mind set. Making the relationship boring. And I also think that goku wouldn't be stronger then vegeta. Because he would fight for the pure pleasure and just for himself and to kill and exterminate. And goku fights for a whole different porpouse. He fights for his loved ones and he fights to improve himself. Thats why he has Mercy with all of the bad guys, because he wants to fight them again.
Vegeta isn't like that.
And i'm pretty sure Vegeta also finds goku's innoccence cute
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And i'm pretty sure that Vegeta would like to change something about goku and i think it would be intelegence in battle. When they fight alongside of eachother, you see vegeta constantly rolling his eyes, complaining and calling goku a fool. 3nodding

3nodding Yup. I agree with the thing about liking to educate him. I think he'd get a superior and patriarchal feeling from telling Goku about his people and customs (if that makes sense). Vegeta can justify the fact that he has to learn from Goku with the fact that Goku also has a lot to learn from him.

Yeah, Kakarrot would probably fight for the same reasons as Vegeta -- for the thrill, and what-not. I think that's a very Saiyan reason to fight.
(Trying to get over my previous habits of defaulting to 'Saiyajin' for everything. xd Since I think Saiyan would be grammatically correct there, ne?)

I dunno, I think if Goku's a genius anywhere, it's on the battlefield. He likes to mess around and be his usual lighthearted self, but when it comes down to it, he knows what he's doing. Although Vegeta may roll his eyes at him when he's fooling around, he's otherwise critiquing and learning from Goku's technique.

Anyway...I'm off to pack to leave for Kansas to visit relatives tomorrow, so I'll see you guys later! ^^

I like using saiyajin. xp

I think that he's a miracle on the battlefield, but I think it's through what comes naturally, not actual calculations.