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Does War solve most nation's problems?
  Yes, and it usually sets things back on track
  No, that's why we still have war
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geo_the_gambler

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:58 am


The War in Iraq is bringing up many questions on the ideals of war. Is it good, bad, right, wrong? There are many things about it that some people can't understand, so this is the place to discuss the heated issue of war.

My opinion. War is sorta right. If negotations and peace treaties don't work, usually war would settle things straight. There are two main variables in war: Reason and Outcome. What is the reason for this war? What will be the outcome? If the outcome is bad, will it affect people around them? The reason is usually a fight, violence, or some other matter.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:38 pm


Personally war hasnt affected my life that much right now, but that doesnt mean I oblivious of it.

I hate it that people die in/for war but that is not the reason that we have it. We done have war to go out a kill our own men and others. Sometimes there has to be. I mean it is just like a fight between friends except that the goverment and the military has giant a** weapons.

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geo_the_gambler

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:02 am


War has changed over the past century. Back then, War was hand-to-hand combat, now we use missiles and stuff to kill them. Sure we have soldiers, but war was a hell of a lot different back then than it is now.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:48 pm


things do change over time but in this case not for the best. I understand that war is needed but some people take the idea of war to an extreme.

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chessiejo

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:28 pm


we should have congress debate and vote upon declarations of war.

that has not happened sinc 1941.

we have had serious armed conflicts, but no official "war".

it's better to do it the formal way; if we had done so with Iraq, some of the misinformation and bad guidance would have been exposed before we committed ourselves, i believe.

people say working for peace is naive, but then again it's never been seriously tried.

what would happen if we put all those war billions into peacemaking efforts? it could change everything.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:58 pm


This is a politically-correct war as well. If it wasn't, we would ANNIHILATE Iraq with everything we have.

Since the politicians are greedy and have forgotten important values, peace may never be achieved in the Middle East.

geo_the_gambler


SaberwulfCS2

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:31 pm


geo_the_gambler
This is a politically-correct war as well. If it wasn't, we would ANNIHILATE Iraq with everything we have.

Since the politicians are greedy and have forgotten important values, peace may never be achieved in the Middle East.


Well uh if the terrorist would stop bombing everyone and everything maybe we would get somewhere.
What would happen if we left Iraq though? That is something I dont know.
Its kind of scary because we are always getting death threats from them that can really provoke people. Especially when they go into detail on how they are going to kill us.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:33 pm


geo_the_gambler
War has changed over the past century. Back then, War was hand-to-hand combat, now we use missiles and stuff to kill them. Sure we have soldiers, but war was a hell of a lot different back then than it is now.


Not totally hand to hand. We have had guns for a long time. I do agree with you on the fact that war is much different than say the wars in the 17 or 18 hundreds.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:45 pm


i dont really think War is the solution just b/c peace treaties dont work. sure one nation may be able to benefit from it but what about the other nation. obviously they'll suffer. its kind of sad the direction the war is going. weapons are getting more and more advanced that ppl can kill each other without even looking each other in the eye. hell, we have the ability to kill large numbers of ppl without even stepping foot on the battlefield. just look at the cold war. it could have been the end of the world. if any country decided to launch missles first the others would have retaliated and that would have been it.

geo_the_gambler
This is a politically-correct war as well. If it wasn't, we would ANNIHILATE Iraq with everything we have.

Since the politicians are greedy and have forgotten important values, peace may never be achieved in the Middle East.

i wouldnt exactly call it a politically correct war. sure the US could bust out everything they have and annihilate Iraq but then Iraq could probably do the same. they have weapons of mass destruction too. theres no way either side is going to come out unscathed.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:20 am


We haven't found WMD's yet. I think we have, but nothing we can't take care of. I agree with Shinigami about advanced weapons. Had the Cuban missile crisis gone awry, we would be having lots and lots of dying people in the world.

Not hand-to-hand combat, as in fist-fighting. Combat like "You're right there, I'm right here, we both have guns, and one of us will live." This used to be a very used tactic back in the early 19-20th century. Now we use missiles and Napalm to take out our enemies.

Who can tell me what Agent Orange is? This was a tactic that was used to try to defeat the Vietcong.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:38 pm


War is not a suitable option for me. To me, it is a very grand scheme level of immaturity. What do teens do when they have a conflict? They fight. They lash out at each other physically. What does it accomplish? A broken nose and suspension from school. Shouldn't adults be able to converse instead of lowering themselves to this sort of stupidity? What is the definition of "adult?" Maturity. The knowledge and ability to reason. War is not reason. War is the act of trying to force or intimidate the other party to give in to what they want. It can be done in other, more mature ways. I disagree strongly with war.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:41 am


So basically we should talk things over with Iraq and other countries who have a sense of annihilating Americans? Yea, and then Iraq and Korea will nuke us for our peace-treaty actions.

At this point in the war, peace is sorta out of the question. We could try, but don't you think we have tried that tactic already? Usually violence seems to be the answer nowadays.

This may seem a while back, but Saix, war in the early 20th century was hand-to-hand, *not literally* but you would go in direct combat with another enemy troop. It's like this: "Here I am with my gun, there you are with your gun. Only one of us will live. BANG!*

Now we use missiles and artillery for that stuff now. Technology will be our downfall...

geo_the_gambler


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:27 am


I know it's too late in the war for peace talk now. And that is exactly the problem I have with the world; it's not just the US. Everybody does jump right into war without thinking about everything else. I don't even understand how we got into war with Iraq (besides the supposed and imaginary WMDs) and why we're not going after the real terrorists who crashed into our buildings. But that's a whole different matter which I don't want to get into. The problem with the world today is that war is the only option. No one thinks peace talk will work, so if they try it, it's not for very long. If everyone was better (basically, in a perfect world) than less of our men would be dying on the front line and less cities destroyed by nukes that will eventually cause the destruction of this planet. I'm not saying that what I want will happen. I'm saying it's what should happen.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:35 pm


A peace treaty is easily betrayed. war, even though i dont like, has to be in existance. throughout life their will always be indimidation, and indimadation is with power. Power brings war, making a cycle.

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