Welcome to Gaia! ::

Reply Tips, Tricks, and Maintenance
Shifts Beyond Fourth

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

x__per fect ly poe tic

Mythical Nymph

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:04 pm


Okay, I have an issue. After two hard years of practice, I have finally been introduced into our school's Chamber Orchestra.

So, I'm supposed to know up to seventh position, which I can play scales in relatively well, but nothing else. (IE "Selections from Phantom of the Opera")

So, when getting in the higher positions, where does the left hand go?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:21 am


I don't fully understand the question... do you mean thumb placement and such, or what? Please be more specific.

teh `MISHFISH

`fishy(green)
Captain


x__per fect ly poe tic

Mythical Nymph

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:52 am


Yeah...summer break sucks because none of mt firneds are available, and the one that is, well, she's a bass player.

Oh, adn I have another question: if my G never stays in tune, is their something wrong with the stiring or my pegs?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:03 am


Alice Spice
Yeah...summer break sucks because none of mt firneds are available, and the one that is, well, she's a bass player.

Oh, and I have another question: if my G never stays in tune, is their something wrong with the stiring or my pegs?

Well... Its fairly common for a new instrument to not stay in tune... If this is a repetitive problem try to push the peg in further untill it's "stuck"... Also... Putting a piece of felt or thick cotton (i.e. pillowcase, part of a quilt, etc.) over your violin while it is in storage is a good idea... It keeps it insulated and less prone to coming out of tune... Depending on your strings, changes in temperature and humidity can knock your instrument out of tune as well... However... This is coming from a person who has managed to break over 20 bowhairs in one month and put a giant crack in the side of his electric viola... People say I'm rough with my instruments...

TheeCornerOfTheeRoundRoom


x__per fect ly poe tic

Mythical Nymph

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:50 am


Thank you so much!
How did you crack your electric viola?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:43 pm


Twenty bowhairs? rofl
Anyway, weather changes are never good for the violin. Humidity levels fluxuate so much that one day your g-peg can be so totally stuck a sledge hammer wouldn't move it, and the next day you may need a sledge hammer to make it stick. Just make sure your case stays completely out of direct sunlight, and keep it in a cooler room if possible. No sunny window in your attic storage for your violin.

As for your shifting question, I still don't exactly understand said question... Please be more specific.

`fishy(green)
Captain


x__per fect ly poe tic

Mythical Nymph

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:55 pm


Okay, where exactly is the left hand placement on shifts beyond fourth? Is it in the curve where the neck of the instrument meets the body? But when you go into positions beyond seventh, it's difficult to hold your hand like that.

Yeah, and I can't help humidity changes, I live in one of the most most humid states in the US...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:29 am


Alice Spice
Okay, I have an issue. After two hard years of practice, I have finally been introduced into our school's Chamber Orchestra.

So, I'm supposed to know up to seventh position, which I can play scales in relatively well, but nothing else. (IE "Selections from Phantom of the Opera")

So, when getting in the higher positions, where does the left hand go?

our orchestra is doing that piece in the fall, or maybe just a similar arrangement. we're suposed to learn the music over the summer. for the high parts, they are just like any lower shift. make sure your thumb moves enough. when you get to notes way at the end of the finger board you have to sort of bend your wrist so that your fingers tilt towards you and can get up high enough. it's not really that hard, just sort of awkward

SLydiaN


`fishy(green)
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:18 am


Alice Spice
Okay, where exactly is the left hand placement on shifts beyond fourth? Is it in the curve where the neck of the instrument meets the body? But when you go into positions beyond seventh, it's difficult to hold your hand like that.

Yeah, and I can't help humidity changes, I live in one of the most most humid states in the US...


Everywhere in the US is either horridly dry or horridly humid. It sucks. Yayglobalwarming.
Anyway...
For shifts up to fifth your thumb should always stay perfectly parallel to the top knuckle of your index finger. After that you have to hook your thumb around the neck and bring your wrist around. It can be quite painful in the highest positions if you have really small hands, but there's no way around that as you need an anchor. Anyway, make sure you bring your elbow out and away from the violin as you shift higher and higher. It helps and enables you to do vibrato.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:07 pm


Alice Spice
Thank you so much!
How did you crack your electric viola?

I'm not exactly sure... I just picked it up one day and WHOOSH! there it was... I was upset... But quickly got over it... I think scratches, dents, and cracks add character! ^_^

TheeCornerOfTheeRoundRoom


Amaya Tokemi

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:23 pm


Alice Spice
Oh, adn I have another question: if my G never stays in tune, is their something wrong with the stiring or my pegs?


another thing besides the cotton tip is to purchase some peg glue. you can get at any music/violin store.

and for your left hand placement question, this is what i have to say: okay, now, you've gotta gotta got to always know where your harmonics are. because that can make shifting a whole lot easier. okay, so, do this, put your first finger on the D string in 4th position so it's an A. then, take your fourth finger and place it on the A string. if you play the 2 notes together, they should be the same. if not, fix them so they're in tune. and harmonics are just placing your finger there with light pressure so it's a kind of airy 'harmonic' sound. xd ~that's another way to see if your strings are in tune with eachother too~ okay, so that's how to know where your harmonic notes are. and once you get used to knowing where those notes are, it can be a lot easier to shift higher. 3nodding i hope that made some sense sweatdrop heh heart take care
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:53 am


Oh my god, thank you all so much! I'm really thankful for this guild, it really helps me during the summer!
Yay! You're the grea
test!

x__per fect ly poe tic

Mythical Nymph

Reply
Tips, Tricks, and Maintenance

 
Manage Your Items
Other Stuff
Get GCash
Offers
Get Items
More Items
Where Everyone Hangs Out
Other Community Areas
Virtual Spaces
Fun Stuff
Gaia's Games
Mini-Games
Play with GCash
Play with Platinum