|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:02 pm
Okay, I'm Theist (I believe in a God but have no formal religion). I attend a Catholic School (Jesuit, for those who care). This is the curriculum for All students:
Freshmen year: Faith and Sacraments
Sophmore year: Scripture Survey
Junior year: Ethics
Senior Year: Justice Seminar or Theology Quest
I know for a fact that I'm not the only having this stuff crammed down my throat. Personally, I think that Catholic schools should provide and alternate class for those who are non-Catholic, where it was the same ammount of work but different material, like Morals world religions and stuff.
Discuss:
arrow Personal Experiences (if any)
arrow You're views on the matter
arrow Anything else you can think of that's related.
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:24 pm
---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
i think i need more information...
since i don't know details about your situation that might be helpful in forming a response, please excuse me if i come accross as not knowing what i'm talking about, or being rude.
first of all--if you're not catholic, why do you attend catholic school?
it's not the public high school in your area, as it's not legal for public school to require classes on religion.
is the private school where you live simply catholic?
personally, if i wanted to have a catholic religious education, or wanted my children to have that sort of an education, i'd send them to catholic school.
otherwise, i probably wouldn't.
---------->>[ 11 and counting...]<<----------
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:06 am
I have a learning difference that makes it difficult to learn in certain environments. I need to be in a small class and have a good one on one relationship with my teacher. Also, my local public school has a really bad rep, as do many public schools in the city where I live. Therefore, public school is out of the question.
I hated my old school and my local public school, which is an idependet school, was too much like it in that it was really stuffy and the people were really stuck up. If you don't know what an independent school is, it's a school that goes from preschool to 12th grade. They don't require religion classes, there's no uniform, but like I said, some of the students have been together since preschool, which means cliques have already formed, not to mention that independent schools are really expensive so most of them come from wealthy families and I just don't fit in with those kinds of people.
The school I'm going to has not one, but two programs for people with learning differences, depending on the severity of them. Despite the religion classes, I'm really happy. We have great resources, seventy-something clubs, thirty-something sports, and the people there, for the most part, really really nice. I have a lot of friends there and am involved in two clubs (creative writing and anime). The only real inconvinience about it is I live in the city and it's in the suburbs so it takes me about 45 minutes to get there taking public transportation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:30 am
---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
that makes perfect sense to me.
i hated going to public school.
hated.
i had to start clubs that interested me because we didn't have them.
i couldn't always take the classes i wanted because they fired teachers constantly.
i couldn't afford to go to private school,a nd if i could have, i would have.
it sounds like the school is a very good place for you, and there are probably not that many options that would have been right for you.
i also know that in many places, religious schools are the only sort of private school around, which makes a dilemma for those who aren't religious, but which to recieve a better education.
i think schools like yours just don't realize the need for programs like that.
honestly, it sounds like they have an amazing school, and should think about offering classes like you suggested, not requiring the religious courses.
it would really broaden the environment of the school, in my opinion.
have you ever considered contacting an administrator at the school with a suggestion like this?
they might be willing to listen to a student's perspective, especially since it ends up being quite flattering to their establishment.
---------->>[ 10 and counting...]<<----------
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:09 am
I think that it's just what you'll have to put up with in order to go to a school that is otherwise perfect. For example, I hate lab sciences, but I had to take one in order to fill the requirements of the school I'm at. And I love the school too much to quit because of one requirement.
Think of it as a chance to better understand your fellow students. I'm assuming that the majority of them are Catholics, and this is a way to learn about their beliefs. You don't have to agree with it, but it's a great chance to expand what you know about organized religion.
The Catholic faith is also highly referenced in literature, music, movies (especially horror movies), and other media. You might just get a kick out of being able to identify and intelligently discuss allusions to Catholic beliefs in the movie you just saw, book you just read, etc. The scripture course will be especially helpful, because it's hard to avoid scriptural allusions in literature and history.
I would look at this as an opportunity to learn about a culture firsthand. I'm sure that the school has had other non-Catholic students in the past and the teachers for these courses will be aware that there may be students who don't hold the same beliefs.
In short, I wouldn't worry until you get there. If you hit the class and the teacher is insensitive and you feel uncomfortable, talk to an administrator. Otherwise, just look on the bright side.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:26 pm
I think it differs for each person. I looooove public school. (Or at least mine xp ) blaugh I go to a large public school with about 2000 people in my high school with me and there are sooooooooo many clubs and there's always something to do. Most of the teachers are pretty cool there, too. I would also die in catholic school. I'm a very independent and free person, so I would feel like Catholic school restricted me. Plus, no offense to Catholics--there are many good, moral Catholics--but all the Catholics I know are heartless homophobic people. Plus, I'm agnostic xp
But if you're Catholic and you don't want to be in a public school environment, then I don't see anything wrong with going to a Catholic school. Personally, I think there should also be other private schools that you can enroll in that aren't just Catholic.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:16 pm
Emerald_Jasmine I would look at this as an opportunity to learn about a culture firsthand. I'm sure that the school has had other non-Catholic students in the past and the teachers for these courses will be aware that there may be students who don't hold the same beliefs. Try listening to your classmate who's an Atheist argue with your Faith teacher for half the class. stare Seriously, the guy would ask a question and it would some how turn into a debate of some kind. It was quite aggravation for all of us.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:01 am
Kaay-chan Emerald_Jasmine I would look at this as an opportunity to learn about a culture firsthand. I'm sure that the school has had other non-Catholic students in the past and the teachers for these courses will be aware that there may be students who don't hold the same beliefs. Try listening to your classmate who's an Atheist argue with your Faith teacher for half the class. stare Seriously, the guy would ask a question and it would some how turn into a debate of some kind. It was quite aggravation for all of us. ---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
honestly, i think those sorts of annoyances will exist no matter what sort of a school you go to, or what kind of a class you're in.
i had an economics professor last semester that spent literally 3/4 of every class fielding rediculous conspiracy theories from a girl who sat in the front row.
we never got ANYWHERE. rolleyes
---------->>[ 10 and counting...]<<----------
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:07 am
Kaay-chan Try listening to your classmate who's an Atheist argue with your Faith teacher for half the class. stare Seriously, the guy would ask a question and it would some how turn into a debate of some kind. It was quite aggravation for all of us. ... I know this is completely off-topic, but I can't help but ask, are you that guild captain in CG that's been around recently? I can't help but notice your banner XD . Okies, and now to make this post on-topic ninja . I would literally die if I was forced to go to a Catholic school. I'd probably be that type of guy who would ask a question in class (sarcastically too), then make it turn into this big debate against the teacher, stuff like that. As much as I try to be understanding and stuff, it's just hard for me right now to deal with people I know I highly disagree with. And stuff. So, to the general topic, yes, catholic schools should have alternative classes in my opinion. For all the unfortunates who've been put in a bit of a strange situation in a Catholic school but aren't catholic or something. <3 Ali
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:32 am
Ali Myrrh Kim Kaay-chan Try listening to your classmate who's an Atheist argue with your Faith teacher for half the class. stare Seriously, the guy would ask a question and it would some how turn into a debate of some kind. It was quite aggravation for all of us. So, to the general topic, yes, catholic schools should have alternative classes in my opinion. For all the unfortunates who've been put in a bit of a strange situation in a Catholic school but aren't catholic or something. <3 Ali Maybe they could learn about all other religions? I know I'm not religious at all but I like to learn about certain religions like Buddhism and Taoism.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:06 am
[ Rose ] Ali Myrrh Kim Kaay-chan Try listening to your classmate who's an Atheist argue with your Faith teacher for half the class. stare Seriously, the guy would ask a question and it would some how turn into a debate of some kind. It was quite aggravation for all of us. So, to the general topic, yes, catholic schools should have alternative classes in my opinion. For all the unfortunates who've been put in a bit of a strange situation in a Catholic school but aren't catholic or something. <3 Ali Maybe they could learn about all other religions? I know I'm not religious at all but I like to learn about certain religions like Buddhism and Taoism. That's what I ment by a world religions class. Like, maybe freshman year learn about universal morals, sophmore year learn about Christianaty, Judaism and Islam, Junior year year learn about Buddhism, Confucionism, and Hinduism, and Senior year learn about Taoism, Sikhism, and a few other religions, or something like that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:23 am
---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
i agree.
i am not religious at all, really, at least not in a traditional sense, but i love to learn about other religions.
no offense to Catholics in general, as i know this is a large and overly-broad statement to make in this situation, but they seem to be a branch of religion that isn't usually highly tolerant of others, and at least in a strict Catholic sense, i doubt they would be open to exposing people to other religions like that.
this is, however, from my own experience, and i obviously know nothing about your particular school and their set of beliefs surrounding this.
---------->>[ 9 and counting...]<<----------
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:30 am
the fuzziest llama ---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
i agree.
i am not religious at all, really, at least not in a traditional sense, but i love to learn about other religions.
no offense to Catholics in general, as i know this is a large and overly-broad statement to make in this situation, but they seem to be a branch of religion that isn't usually highly tolerant of others, and at least in a strict Catholic sense, i doubt they would be open to exposing people to other religions like that.
this is, however, from my own experience, and i obviously know nothing about your particular school and their set of beliefs surrounding this.
---------->>[ 9 and counting...]<<---------- Actually, my school is really open to having students of different religions. We just don't learn about said religions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:06 pm
Kaay-chan the fuzziest llama ---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
i agree.
i am not religious at all, really, at least not in a traditional sense, but i love to learn about other religions.
no offense to Catholics in general, as i know this is a large and overly-broad statement to make in this situation, but they seem to be a branch of religion that isn't usually highly tolerant of others, and at least in a strict Catholic sense, i doubt they would be open to exposing people to other religions like that.
this is, however, from my own experience, and i obviously know nothing about your particular school and their set of beliefs surrounding this.
---------->>[ 9 and counting...]<<---------- Actually, my school is really open to having students of different religions. We just don't learn about said religions. ---------->>[ First days of the rest of my life... ]<<----------
that's great, i love when people are able to be open-minded.
---------->>[ 9 and counting...]<<----------
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:16 pm
+ The supreme irony of life is that... My school's private...but not religious. sweatdrop
I can't really relate to your situation, but I find it interesting in a way. If I had "religion" as a subject, then I'd probably not attend or make the teacher's life miserable. Yeah, the idiot rebel inside me comes out in those situations. ...hardly anybody makes it out alive. +
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Reply
![[ Rose ]'s avatar](https://a1cdn.gaiaonline.com/dress-up/avatar/ava/20/40/426c8ad114020_flip.png?t=1254506215_6.00_10)
