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 Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:01 am
NOTE: I am not a Christian. I joined this guild and several others to learn about other faiths. I practice witchcraft (or Wicca). Exactly WHAT is the teenage Christian view on witchcraft? I knew this couple, we were great friends until one of them walked in on me doing a Mabon ritual, and they haven't talked to me since. I know that most people are under the impression that witchcraft is an evil, devil-worshipping cult thingy, but they are sadly mistaken.  SOOO...if you can tell me your EXACT views on this topic, I'd like that.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:17 am
I believe satan uses witchcraft to bring people to hell.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:48 am
Wahine please tell me you didn't vote for option one. that would seriously depress me.
As for my views on Wicca *shrugs* more than half of my friends practice it. i give them the right to thier religion and they give me the right to mine. no one tries to convert anyone. every one hangs out. It's not such a bad gig.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:51 pm
well I would with the consent of Narucard post our conversation that we had about this...ah I'll post it later.
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:20 am
(Sits cross-legged on the ground, smoothing out the front of his robe)
How many of you witchcraft-haters (and I have met a few) actually know the teachings and precepts of Wicca? I mean, apart from telling me "Happy birthday" on the 6th of the 6th every year (my birthday's actually the 16th of the 3rd), shouldn't you lot be a little more tolerant? Or at least recognise my right under the law to practice witchcraft?
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:59 am
A Soul So Black (Sits cross-legged on the ground, smoothing out the front of his robe) How many of you witchcraft-haters (and I have met a few) actually know the teachings and precepts of Wicca? I mean, apart from telling me "Happy birthday" on the 6th of the 6th every year (my birthday's actually the 16th of the 3rd), shouldn't you lot be a little more tolerant? Or at least recognise my right under the law to practice witchcraft? I know a bit about witchcraft and wicca sence i dated a girl that was wiccan. I belive when you do witchcraft you mess with things that you dont understand. i guess the biggest thing i have agenst wicca is that you can do what ever you want as long as your nice about it. every one is free to practice there religion wether it be God, spirits, or even pizza. but just cause you have the right to practace it dose not mean we have to agree with it.
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:58 pm
I believe that it can be used for good.
Wiccanism...isn't that using herbs and such
for healing? Or at least, this is what I've made it out to be.
Witchcraft...this is a big one for me because it's got a double-standard...
Harry Potter is something that I support because Harry can go along in
life WITHOUT his magic. He learns lessons other than, "Magic is power."
When you use witchcraft to summon up spirits...I would not say that this is
exactly godly. But then again, I like a lot of ungodly things.
When you talk to spirits...I believe it is ungodly because any spirit that is
not of God is of Satan. And angels, Jesus, and God are contacted through prayer.
Just be careful with spirits. They may be demons in disguise,
or at least vengeful. (Which would be demons...? I just confused myself...)
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:04 pm
NarucardX NewFoundLight NarucardX NewFoundLight NarucardX True....but....if we're talking about spiritual power....if it doesn't come from God, where else does it come from? bt what proof is there that sorcery is spiritual power. You don't think it is? then what would you call it? I'm just saying there no Biblical evidence supporting it, thats all. here: 2 Chronicles 33:6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Leviticus 19:31 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:30 pm
NewFoundLight here: 2 Chronicles 33:6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Leviticus 19:31 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Law of the Witch no. 8 Shed not blood in ritual, for the God and Goddess need not blood to be duly worshipped. Law of the Witch no. 3 Harm none. This is not open to change or interpretation. Witchcraft is not evil. It is not good. It simply is. Practitioners of Wicca call on the power of the natural world to protect, heal, nurture and keep order. Wiccae ask the Threefold Goddess and God to do them favors (this is what you'd call a "spell"). Witches harm NO ONE. They do not sacrifice or burn or stab. The oldest law there is is to HARM NONE. We are not Satanists, and I'll thank you to be a LITTLE more understanding. You shouldn't judge a faith by using the one-sided antiquities written down thousands of years ago by narrow-minded people who didn't want to understand anything other than their own dogmas. And for the record, we do not defile anyone.
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:44 pm
A Soul So Black NewFoundLight here: 2 Chronicles 33:6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Leviticus 19:31 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Law of the Witch no. 8 Shed not blood in ritual, for the God and Goddess need not blood to be duly worshipped. Law of the Witch no. 3 Harm none. This is not open to change or interpretation. Witchcraft is not evil. It is not good. It simply is. Practitioners of Wicca call on the power of the natural world to protect, heal, nurture and keep order. Wiccae ask the Threefold Goddess and God to do them favors (this is what you'd call a "spell"). Witches harm NO ONE. They do not sacrifice or burn or stab. The oldest law there is is to HARM NONE. We are not Satanists, and I'll thank you to be a LITTLE more understanding. You shouldn't judge a faith by using the one-sided antiquities written down thousands of years ago by narrow-minded people who didn't want to understand anything other than their own dogmas. And for the record, we do not defile anyone. excuse me narrow minded people and one sided antiquities thank you for insulting my faith, now please watch and learn something, this wasn't the entire conversation I had with Narucard, I'm about to post it in a minute, and by the way, where exactly do you see me judging you now, I said nothing to condem I merely posted some scripture... for some odd reason i couldn't post the entire thing let me attemtp to do it again.....never mind I tried it's not doing it, but the jest of what I and Narucard were talking about is that sorcery is spirtual and there are only two places it can come form in this world GOD...or Satan and his demons, so yea. I'mmnot 100% sure where magic came from, but the point is GOD said not to use it, I don't know maybe it's not that t comes from satan but it can corrupt just like how must power corrupts men...I don't know for sure.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:24 am
NewFoundLight A Soul So Black NewFoundLight here: 2 Chronicles 33:6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Leviticus 19:31 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Law of the Witch no. 8 Shed not blood in ritual, for the God and Goddess need not blood to be duly worshipped. Law of the Witch no. 3 Harm none. This is not open to change or interpretation. Witchcraft is not evil. It is not good. It simply is. Practitioners of Wicca call on the power of the natural world to protect, heal, nurture and keep order. Wiccae ask the Threefold Goddess and God to do them favors (this is what you'd call a "spell"). Witches harm NO ONE. They do not sacrifice or burn or stab. The oldest law there is is to HARM NONE. We are not Satanists, and I'll thank you to be a LITTLE more understanding. You shouldn't judge a faith by using the one-sided antiquities written down thousands of years ago by narrow-minded people who didn't want to understand anything other than their own dogmas. And for the record, we do not defile anyone. excuse me narrow minded people and one sided antiquities thank you for insulting my faith, now please watch and learn something, this wasn't the entire conversation I had with Narucard, I'm about to post it in a minute, and by the way, where exactly do you see me judging you now, I said nothing to condem I merely posted some scripture... for some odd reason i couldn't post the entire thing let me attemtp to do it again.....never mind I tried it's not doing it, but the jest of what I and Narucard were talking about is that sorcery is spirtual and there are only two places it can come form in this world GOD...or Satan and his demons, so yea. I'mmnot 100% sure where magic came from, but the point is GOD said not to use it, I don't know maybe it's not that t comes from satan but it can corrupt just like how must power corrupts men...I don't know for sure. Oh, Goddess! Please pardon my hastiness. I was eager to bite back at those who I believed to be slandering my faith. (Bows repeatedly, very fast.) I crave your indulgence for my thoughtless words. Oh, and by the way, magic came from the God and the Goddess. It doesn't corrupt because the deity duo can take the power away. And there are other powers in this world besides those of the heavenly and the infernal. Elementals, for instance...
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:38 pm
A Soul So Black NewFoundLight A Soul So Black NewFoundLight here: 2 Chronicles 33:6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Leviticus 19:31 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Law of the Witch no. 8 Shed not blood in ritual, for the God and Goddess need not blood to be duly worshipped. Law of the Witch no. 3 Harm none. This is not open to change or interpretation. Witchcraft is not evil. It is not good. It simply is. Practitioners of Wicca call on the power of the natural world to protect, heal, nurture and keep order. Wiccae ask the Threefold Goddess and God to do them favors (this is what you'd call a "spell"). Witches harm NO ONE. They do not sacrifice or burn or stab. The oldest law there is is to HARM NONE. We are not Satanists, and I'll thank you to be a LITTLE more understanding. You shouldn't judge a faith by using the one-sided antiquities written down thousands of years ago by narrow-minded people who didn't want to understand anything other than their own dogmas. And for the record, we do not defile anyone. excuse me narrow minded people and one sided antiquities thank you for insulting my faith, now please watch and learn something, this wasn't the entire conversation I had with Narucard, I'm about to post it in a minute, and by the way, where exactly do you see me judging you now, I said nothing to condem I merely posted some scripture... for some odd reason i couldn't post the entire thing let me attemtp to do it again.....never mind I tried it's not doing it, but the jest of what I and Narucard were talking about is that sorcery is spirtual and there are only two places it can come form in this world GOD...or Satan and his demons, so yea. I'mmnot 100% sure where magic came from, but the point is GOD said not to use it, I don't know maybe it's not that t comes from satan but it can corrupt just like how must power corrupts men...I don't know for sure. Oh, Goddess! Please pardon my hastiness. I was eager to bite back at those who I believed to be slandering my faith. (Bows repeatedly, very fast.) I crave your indulgence for my thoughtless words. Oh, and by the way, magic came from the God and the Goddess. It doesn't corrupt because the deity duo can take the power away. And there are other powers in this world besides those of the heavenly and the infernal. Elementals, for instance... well thats what you believe, but I believe differently...how the heck did this infernal, and heaven;y god and goddess thing come about(I mean who started the relegion)...no offense but it sounds like war craft
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:04 am
NewFoundLight A Soul So Black NewFoundLight A Soul So Black NewFoundLight here: 2 Chronicles 33:6 He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Leviticus 19:31 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Law of the Witch no. 8 Shed not blood in ritual, for the God and Goddess need not blood to be duly worshipped. Law of the Witch no. 3 Harm none. This is not open to change or interpretation. Witchcraft is not evil. It is not good. It simply is. Practitioners of Wicca call on the power of the natural world to protect, heal, nurture and keep order. Wiccae ask the Threefold Goddess and God to do them favors (this is what you'd call a "spell"). Witches harm NO ONE. They do not sacrifice or burn or stab. The oldest law there is is to HARM NONE. We are not Satanists, and I'll thank you to be a LITTLE more understanding. You shouldn't judge a faith by using the one-sided antiquities written down thousands of years ago by narrow-minded people who didn't want to understand anything other than their own dogmas. And for the record, we do not defile anyone. excuse me narrow minded people and one sided antiquities thank you for insulting my faith, now please watch and learn something, this wasn't the entire conversation I had with Narucard, I'm about to post it in a minute, and by the way, where exactly do you see me judging you now, I said nothing to condem I merely posted some scripture... for some odd reason i couldn't post the entire thing let me attemtp to do it again.....never mind I tried it's not doing it, but the jest of what I and Narucard were talking about is that sorcery is spirtual and there are only two places it can come form in this world GOD...or Satan and his demons, so yea. I'mmnot 100% sure where magic came from, but the point is GOD said not to use it, I don't know maybe it's not that t comes from satan but it can corrupt just like how must power corrupts men...I don't know for sure. Oh, Goddess! Please pardon my hastiness. I was eager to bite back at those who I believed to be slandering my faith. (Bows repeatedly, very fast.) I crave your indulgence for my thoughtless words. Oh, and by the way, magic came from the God and the Goddess. It doesn't corrupt because the deity duo can take the power away. And there are other powers in this world besides those of the heavenly and the infernal. Elementals, for instance... well thats what you believe, but I believe differently...how the heck did this infernal, and heaven;y god and goddess thing come about(I mean who started the relegion)...no offense but it sounds like war craft Infernal: Hell and demons and Satan/Other powers. Divine: Heaven and angels God/s. Elementals are...well...worldly powers. They are bound firmly to this world. They're what you'd call forest spirits, sea sprites, fairies, salamanders, Ondine, nymphs et cetera. When people say they're worshipping the spirits of nature, they mean the elementals.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:25 pm
My two cents on all this. There is more to witchcraft than Wicca but either way I'm against it. You are messing with spirits that can enter your body and do things to you that aren't Godly. IN the bible it mentions that witchcraft is wrong and sin, that's why I don't do it. Even if wicca is doing witchcraft for good there is witchcraft out there used for bad. And either way witchfcraft is wrong. It's changing God's world. If God wanted us to use magic to change things we didn't like, he wouldn't have called it sin and everyone would be doing it. And there is only one God as stated in the bible and nothing should be put before him.
I am also a fan of Harry Potter because it's more than just witchcraft and it's a battle against good and evil. Also it takes place in a fanasty world as they are not to use witchcraft in the world. So with the text and the movie there is no alteration in God's world. Only in the fanasty world, created by the author.
I'm not so bent in my ways though to say it's wrong to associate with people who do witchcraft. As I do have friends who are pegans, wiccans, and all that stuff. Or did. Most of them ditched me when they found out what I believe. So respect of faith goes both ways. I was willing to remain their friends but when they found out my beliefs they are the ones who shunned me.
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