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 Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:22 am
If you finished the last book you know the ending was...kinda...disterbing
for lack of a better word I'm not saying I didn't like it I'm saying I want to hear the changed story that it describes at the end. but I know that most likely wont happen.
How do you feel about the end? would you like to see the changed story at the end come out in book stors or am I foolish for wondering what would happen?
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:01 am
You do realize we have an entire sticky just for the Dark Tower, right?
Anyway, I didn't like the ending but a accept it. The Dark Tower Series are still my favorite books of all time. And somehow, I expect, that we haven't heard the last of Roland.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:34 am
I absolutely adored the ending. x.x Couldn't have been any other way...
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 3:03 pm
i liked that everyone died.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:11 am
The ending wasn't... satisfying, but it was necessary. And you do realize that if the continued story came out it would be almost just like the first ones, right? The only changed thing is the Horn of Eld. That one thing right there is meant to give us hope that when he reaches the Tower this time, he will succeed.
The Dark Tower wasn't about the ending, anyway. If you really read the ending, SK says it himself. "I hope you came to hear the tale, and not just munch your way through the pages to the ending." So you see, it isn't the ending that matters. What matters is that you read the story and you remember it and you enjoy it.
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:11 am
icanliveonbread i liked that everyone died. only in 1 world in another they were still alive or something like that stressed
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:10 pm
eldwardo icanliveonbread i liked that everyone died. only in 1 world in another they were still alive or something like that stressed actually, technically the versions we knew and loved all died. Depending on how you look at it, that includes Sussanah. When Jake and Callahan were talking about how they came to Mid-World Jake admittied he had died twice. So, theoretically there are just millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of versions of slightly differing reality. This allowed one Jake to die and come to the way station that Roland was at, but the Jake that fell and died is not the one who died at the Dutch House, thus being reborn in Mid-World. Although, I believe that all the characters are on some level connected across the all the levels of the tower, it wasn't the same one. This also means that passing through one of the doors constitutes death. So, the Eddie, Jake and Sussanah we all loved had all died, even though they lived happily ever after in an alternate reality. At least, that's what I got.... sweatdrop Well since I've already started, I had a thought about the end. If Roland were to set foot in the top of the tower he would transend reality. If one has transended reality, how can one exist to be experincing reality? I don't think the tower has a top persay. Possibly some Immortals could reach it(ie: Gan), but even a long-timer like Flagg could not set foot there, because his perseptions are dependant that he exists. Therefore, transending reality negates oneself from reality disallowing any possiblity of having transending reality, because one never existed to transend it. I think the horn may service as a device to reassure us that Roland may come to a happier ending, but not nessisarly one that includes the tower. well that just one thing I came up with.... sweatdrop (sorry for rambiling)
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:35 pm
Ipse Dixit eldwardo icanliveonbread i liked that everyone died. only in 1 world in another they were still alive or something like that stressed actually, technically the versions we knew and loved all died. Depending on how you look at it, that includes Sussanah. When Jake and Callahan were talking about how they came to Mid-World Jake admittied he had died twice. So, theoretically there are just millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of versions of slightly differing reality. This allowed one Jake to die and come to the way station that Roland was at, but the Jake that fell and died is not the one who died at the Dutch House, thus being reborn in Mid-World. Although, I believe that all the characters are on some level connected across the all the levels of the tower, it wasn't the same one. This also means that passing through one of the doors constitutes death. So, the Eddie, Jake and Sussanah we all loved had all died, even though they lived happily ever after in an alternate reality. At least, that's what I got.... sweatdrop Well since I've already started, I had a thought about the end. If Roland were to set foot in the top of the tower he would transend reality. If one has transended reality, how can one exist to be experincing reality? I don't think the tower has a top persay. Possibly some Immortals could reach it(ie: Gan), but even a long-timer like Flagg could not set foot there, because his perseptions are dependant that he exists. Therefore, transending reality negates oneself from reality disallowing any possiblity of having transending reality, because one never existed to transend it. I think the horn may service as a device to reassure us that Roland may come to a happier ending, but not nessisarly one that includes the tower. well that just one thing I came up with.... sweatdrop (sorry for rambiling) you made my head hurt with all your logic! but I do agree with you...I think. the story still changed at the end I want to hear what will happen in that reality or what ever
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:01 pm
It was the only ending. I have thought of other endings that would work with the story, but none. Unfourtnatly its been to long since I've read it, and I can't back my answer with solid facts. Unfourtnatly, I don't there isn't any more Roland to come, or anything from SK for that matter.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:13 am
I liked the ending. I just didnt liek how nothing was explained. and I still dont get how having a horn would change anything. I actaully wish that he hadn't had his horn when he went back. That way, now that I'm rereading the series, I could pretend that it is actually a continuation, rather than going back to the beginning. A resumption, if you will 3nodding
I hated how Sussanah found Edddie and Jake in the other New York. That was stupid. It seemed a little childish and dillusional. It like, makes their deaths worthless. It's like when a childs dog dies, so the mother goes out and buys them a new puppy to make them forget about the old one.
Overall, I'd say that my least favorite aspect of the DT stories were when they said that there are infinite numbers of worlds that are so similar, you can't tell the difference. That's confusing and boring, and basically first class ticket to plothole central.
woah, off-topic. As much as I would love to see how Roland's journey ends, I just don't think we ever will. honestly. I think King is really done with the Gunslinger this time.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:11 pm
Blaze01 I liked the ending. I just didnt liek how nothing was explained. and I still dont get how having a horn would change anything. I actaully wish that he hadn't had his horn when he went back. That way, now that I'm rereading the series, I could pretend that it is actually a continuation, rather than going back to the beginning. I hated how Sussanah found Edddie and Jake in the other New York. That was stupid. It seemed a little childish and dillusional. It like, makes their deaths worthless. It's like when a childs dog dies, so the mother goes out and buys them a new puppy to make them forget about the old one. Overall, I'd say that my least favorite aspect of the DT stories were when they said that there are infinite numbers of worlds that are so similar, you can't tell the difference. That's confusing and boring. woah, off-topic. As much as I would love to see how Roland's journey ends, I just don't think we ever will. honestly. I think King is really done with the Gunslinger this time. I don't think it really can end, just with Ka's wheel and all. Roland seems to be stuck in this loop that has no real end in sight. I liked the ending for the most part, because it really was the only way to end it. How childish would it have seemed if Roland got to the tower, and lived happy ever after. I would feel cheated.
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:01 pm
thenakedmolerat833 Blaze01 I liked the ending. I just didnt liek how nothing was explained. and I still dont get how having a horn would change anything. I actaully wish that he hadn't had his horn when he went back. That way, now that I'm rereading the series, I could pretend that it is actually a continuation, rather than going back to the beginning. I hated how Sussanah found Edddie and Jake in the other New York. That was stupid. It seemed a little childish and dillusional. It like, makes their deaths worthless. It's like when a childs dog dies, so the mother goes out and buys them a new puppy to make them forget about the old one. Overall, I'd say that my least favorite aspect of the DT stories were when they said that there are infinite numbers of worlds that are so similar, you can't tell the difference. That's confusing and boring. woah, off-topic. As much as I would love to see how Roland's journey ends, I just don't think we ever will. honestly. I think King is really done with the Gunslinger this time. I don't think it really can end, just with Ka's wheel and all. Roland seems to be stuck in this loop that has no real end in sight. I liked the ending for the most part, because it really was the only way to end it. How childish would it have seemed if Roland got to the tower, and lived happy ever after. I would feel cheated. live happily ever after? Who said he would have to live at all after reaching the tower? I always thought he would get there and then maybe not die (death, but not for you, Gunslinger), but maybe be taken away . . . if you could understand what I mean by that. I'm not really sure how to explain it, myself.
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:56 pm
Blaze01 thenakedmolerat833 Blaze01 I liked the ending. I just didnt liek how nothing was explained. and I still dont get how having a horn would change anything. I actaully wish that he hadn't had his horn when he went back. That way, now that I'm rereading the series, I could pretend that it is actually a continuation, rather than going back to the beginning. I hated how Sussanah found Edddie and Jake in the other New York. That was stupid. It seemed a little childish and dillusional. It like, makes their deaths worthless. It's like when a childs dog dies, so the mother goes out and buys them a new puppy to make them forget about the old one. Overall, I'd say that my least favorite aspect of the DT stories were when they said that there are infinite numbers of worlds that are so similar, you can't tell the difference. That's confusing and boring. woah, off-topic. As much as I would love to see how Roland's journey ends, I just don't think we ever will. honestly. I think King is really done with the Gunslinger this time. I don't think it really can end, just with Ka's wheel and all. Roland seems to be stuck in this loop that has no real end in sight. I liked the ending for the most part, because it really was the only way to end it. How childish would it have seemed if Roland got to the tower, and lived happy ever after. I would feel cheated. live happily ever after? Who said he would have to live at all after reaching the tower? I always thought he would get there and then maybe not die (death, but not for you, Gunslinger), but maybe be taken away . . . if you could understand what I mean by that. I'm not really sure how to explain it, myself. I get what your saying, but the ending you are kinda of discribing is what I would have ruled as a happy-ever-after one.
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:30 am
Cracovin It was the only ending. I have thought of other endings that would work with the story, but none. Unfourtnatly its been to long since I've read it, and I can't back my answer with solid facts. Unfourtnatly, I don't there isn't any more Roland to come, or anything from SK for that matter. I read on his site a few weeks ago that he was considering putting "his pen down for good" now that DT 7 was completed. It was kinda like his final opus. And if that's truely the case, I doubt there will ever be another SK book, which is sad. But hey, the guys gotta do what's good for him.
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:04 pm
YGOPaladin Cracovin It was the only ending. I have thought of other endings that would work with the story, but none. Unfourtnatly its been to long since I've read it, and I can't back my answer with solid facts. Unfourtnatly, I don't there isn't any more Roland to come, or anything from SK for that matter. I read on his site a few weeks ago that he was considering putting "his pen down for good" now that DT 7 was completed. It was kinda like his final opus. And if that's truely the case, I doubt there will ever be another SK book, which is sad. But hey, the guys gotta do what's good for him. That doesn't make sense considering he's currently writing another novel currently titled Cell. And he just finished another story a little while back, which will also be published sometime next year. The man isn't stopping, he isn't putting his pen down. He said he never will, never can, and always will write as long as he's with us.
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