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Griever's Den is a semi-new Final Fantasy guild That has taken it's name from the animation short I made where Squall had to live with Griever for a month. Anyway, back to about the guild. Just because It's name comes from FFVIII does not mean it is entirely based on it. It is great Guild for the Final Fantasy Veterans to the Fairly new. And it just does not stop there. Of course Square made a few other games worth mentioning. I also know that when people discuss Final Fantasy too much things get a little odd. So I made a spinoff area for those who have not played Final Fantasy or just want to discuss other great Square games. Anyway..I think Negative_X already posted the link, but I'll edit this later with a banner. SO yeah..A great social environment with out the constant: OMFG FFXI!!!ROXS!@@ threads so..umm well...there's your detailed explanation..if you need more tell me