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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:54 pm
I really really wanna know who is stronger? Kid Buu or Brolly. Please tell me why you think Kid Buu/Brolly is stronger as well. (Kid Buu becus he is cooler is not telling me how he is stronger.) I dont care who you like more! I just wanna know who stronger! And for the love off al that is not braindead, Do not just spout out a name and run off.  Vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YS89E8_9iQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xhI3_8VOg
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:09 pm
Well, it took Goku, Vegeta, and a galaxy-gathered Spirit Bomb to defeat Kid Buu, someone who regenerates from dust.
And it took Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and a Gohan + Goten Kamehameha to defeat Broly.
Furthermore, Goku and Vegeta could easily take on Gohan, Trunks and Goten, going by their respective timelines.
(Note that for each of their respective timelines, Goku's max = SSJ3, Vegeta's max = SSJ2, Gohan + Goten + Trunks' max = SSJ).
Therefore, it took more effort to defeat Kid Buu than it did for Broly, which leads me to believe that Kid Buu could defeat Broly.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:22 pm
Saiyan Master Vegeta Well, it took Goku, Vegeta, and a galaxy-gathered Spirit Bomb to defeat Kid Buu, someone who regenerates from dust. And it took Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and a Gohan + Goten Kamehameha to defeat Broly. Furthermore, Goku and Vegeta could easily take on Gohan, Trunks and Goten, going by their respective timelines. (Note that for each of their respective timelines, Goku's max = SSJ3, Vegeta's max = SSJ2, Gohan + Goten + Trunks' max = SSJ). Therefore, it took more effort to defeat Kid Buu than it did for Broly, which leads me to believe that Kid Buu could defeat Broly. (you do know the 2nd time he was weaker than his first time. He has not eatin in years, he been in a deep sleep, and his body was already damged from the first fight where Goku took in the power of evryone on the planit to use a attack derected at his Scar/weak spot.) So we are going Buy Brolly from the first movie. He was stronger in that one. Buu yes strangth wise he was a evin match at best With a SSJ3 but his healling facter made him just about Unstopable.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:21 am
When it comes to Kid Buu, I see it as pure plot device that he was killed. The only rational explanation for a limitless regenerator to be defeated by such an attack is that a Spirit Bomb is made up of all the purity of th energy gathered. Thus, a galaxy worth of purity was too much for Buu's singular evil and was thus blasted to Hell by it all.
Thus, I give Kid Buu the win.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:39 pm
I want to say Broly SOOO BAD. *SM Vegeta, do u see a way?*
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:53 pm
rikeen90 I want to say Broly SOOO BAD. *SM Vegeta, do u see a way?* I actually do, but the chances of it working aren't very high . . . . . . Remember how in the first Broly movie, it showed the South Quadrant of the galaxy being destroyed within a couple of seconds? Well, if Broly created an explosion of that extent with Kid Buu in the middle of it, there's a good chance that Buu won't be regenerating. But the only problem with that scenaio is that Kid Buu knows Instant Transmission, and could escape to somewhere distant in space. And I can't decide if a galaxy's explosion would be more intense than a galaxy-gathered Spirit Bomb. Overall, I'd say that Kid Buu wins 6/10 times, though Broly's chances are still up there.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:39 pm
But isn't the only reason Broly lost, because he had already been injured? I was under the impression he was one of the most powerful beings in DBU, and his downfall was just plot loop/luck.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:24 pm
Yes, he only lost because he had a injuriy(a scar), but you have to keep in mind that he was fighting aginst piccolo and a bunch of SSJ1s. Kid Buu completely outclased SSJ2 Vageta and lasted long enough for SSJ3 Goku to get worn out(altough Goku was a lot stronger than him, he only lasted so long due to his regeneration). In other words Buu fought a lot worse, tough we realy don't know if Broly could handle something just as bad since he never fought anything on that level. Also, keep in mingd that Broly still has that old scar waek spot, tough if idiotic Buu actualy hits it it's only due to sheer dumb luck.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:57 pm
Either way, there is NO proof of the matter. Broly NEVER lost, or even flinched. He took a flipin kamehameha to the face! And laughed! If Broly struggled vs them, then I'd say, fine. But he didn't, there is no proof that he couldn't take ssj3. In fact, I blieve him to b the most powerful char in dbz. But again, that is a little bit biased.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:08 am
Keep in mind that Ultimitly perfect Cell could take just about everything Brolly took without flinching either. In his weaker perfect form he just stood there not careing whist Vageta pounded him as hard as he could. But eveen Cell at his best would be dead against a SSJ3. Hell, he has troble with SSJ2's. I really don't see slaughtering a bunch of SSJ1s as much of an accomplishment. Of coures, that's not to say that Brolly isn't extreemly powerful, it's just that he's never shown any real evidence of it, minus the galixy quadrant buster.
On a related note, I just realized that if Kid Buu is incapable of hurting Broly due to his insane defense, he could always try to absorb him or turn him into candy.
Oh, and about Brolly being the strongest character in the DBU...he wouldn't stand a chance against SSJ2 Vageto. And don't even make me start about if Vageto trys using the Dragon punch(he knows all of Goku's moves and Goku already knew the move before they became Vageto, so yes, Vaggeto does know it).
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:12 pm
Aaaand? Broly only died because he already had a wound there. It took massive power to open that wound anyways. Every other attack, didn't phase him at all. Therefore, we do not know how much he could've taken, at all. Even SSJ2, or fusion. (Although I will give anything above SSJ 3 power the go ahead)
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:40 pm
Brolly is a pathetic Psuedo-character anyways. I mean, if people think characters like Galactus are poorly thought out and riddiculously over powered, then what does that make Brolly? He was only created by the animation studio that did the movies to fill a plot hole in the DBU and nothing more. He isn't really a DBZ character compared to villians like Cell and Frieza, who actually had some real personality and character development.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:26 pm
rikeen90 Aaaand? Broly only died because he already had a wound there. It took massive power to open that wound anyways. Every other attack, didn't phase him at all. Therefore, we do not know how much he could've taken, at all. Even SSJ2, or fusion. (Although I will give anything above SSJ 3 power the go ahead) Yeah, but Buu's power is greater than that of which Goku used todefeat him, and the scar is still there, so if Buu hits him there, it's not going to be pretty. In other words, he has a weakness, and you can't disregard that when involving him in a fight. Also, I just realized that to defeat Brolly it took the combined power of SSJ1 Goku, SSJ1 Trunks, SSJ1Vageta, SSJ1 Gohan, and Piccolo, all extreemly weakened from battle. To take down Buu it took most of the kib and life energy of every single person on the planet including Trunks, Goten, Piccolo, Tien, Krilllen, Yamcha, Chauzu, I think androids 17 and 18(tough I'm not sure that's possible given that they're cyborgs), Master Roshi, and Mystic Gohan(who's around SSJ3 power), and energy taken from various life/stars from across the Galixy to defeat Buu. And before you bring it up again, yes I realize that's only due to the scar, but even so that's a big diffrence. And as for the side argument, you seriously undersestimate fusion if you think SSJ3's can handle Broly but fusion can't. Vageto appeared to be cappable of handling Super Buu, who had absorbed Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Mystic Gohan, witout going Super Sajin(he apparently went SSJ just for the hell of it). Mystic Gohan alone is questionably on par with or stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and definitly above SSJ3 Gotenks, who is a fused SSJ3. Furthermore Goku seemed sure that he couldn't take out even Gotenks Buu without fusion. And yet Vageto has no problem with his stronger form at all. Another point is that SSJ3 Goku got the crap kicked out of him by Jamemba, and then Gogeta absolutly slaughtered Janemba without any difficulty. And tecniquley, Brolly fights in the Ultimit SSJ form, which is about on par with SSJ2 in strengh and power, but really slow(it's the form Trunks used against Cell). The reason he's a lot tougher than your average SSJ2/Ultimit SSJ is because he's got insane base stats due to being the "Legendary Super Sajin".
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:11 pm
Kamikazek-Z rikeen90 Aaaand? Broly only died because he already had a wound there. It took massive power to open that wound anyways. Every other attack, didn't phase him at all. Therefore, we do not know how much he could've taken, at all. Even SSJ2, or fusion. (Although I will give anything above SSJ 3 power the go ahead) Yeah, but Buu's power is greater than that of which Goku used todefeat him, and the scar is still there, so if Buu hits him there, it's not going to be pretty. In other words, he has a weakness, and you can't disregard that when involving him in a fight. Also, I just realized that to defeat Brolly it took the combined power of SSJ1 Goku, SSJ1 Trunks, SSJ1Vageta, SSJ1 Gohan, and Piccolo, all extreemly weakened from battle. To take down Buu it took most of the kib and life energy of every single person on the planet including Trunks, Goten, Piccolo, Tien, Krilllen, Yamcha, Chauzu, I think androids 17 and 18(tough I'm not sure that's possible given that they're cyborgs), Master Roshi, and Mystic Gohan(who's around SSJ3 power), and energy taken from various life/stars from across the Galixy to defeat Buu. And before you bring it up again, yes I realize that's only due to the scar, but even so that's a big diffrence. And as for the side argument, you seriously undersestimate fusion if you think SSJ3's can handle Broly but fusion can't. Vageto appeared to be cappable of handling Super Buu, who had absorbed Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Mystic Gohan, witout going Super Sajin(he apparently went SSJ just for the hell of it). Mystic Gohan alone is questionably on par with or stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and definitly above SSJ3 Gotenks, who is a fused SSJ3. Furthermore Goku seemed sure that he couldn't take out even Gotenks Buu without fusion. And yet Vageto has no problem with his stronger form at all. Another point is that SSJ3 Goku got the crap kicked out of him by Jamemba, and then Gogeta absolutly slaughtered Janemba without any difficulty. And tecniquley, Brolly fights in the Ultimit SSJ form, which is about on par with SSJ2 in strengh and power, but really slow(it's the form Trunks used against Cell). The reason he's a lot tougher than your average SSJ2/Ultimit SSJ is because he's got insane base stats due to being the "Legendary Super Sajin". last time I looked A Mystic Gohan is a little above a SSJ3, and A mystic Gohan did not faze Broly, yet a SSJ3 was able to hold his own agenst kid Buu.
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:36 am
Mistic Gohan's never fought against Broly. neutral Or is that the whole point and you're useing some kind of wierd logic I can't understand?
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