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Ok so since we mainly focus on Wing I thought this might be a nice change of pace. mrgreen

Stargazer.

STAR-GAZ-ER.

That is all I have to say about Seed.

I agree with you on some of those points. The characters do have their own strengths (though I like the Wing girls better) though SEED fans that bash Wing do so unfairly. Lacus is a little too perfect, though I guess that can be chalked up to genetic engineering.

About character death... I ignore the whole thing about Mu coming back to life, much as I ignore anything that isn't the original series or the Astray sidestories. And yeah, character death does make the whole thing a lot more tragic. SEED tells a different sort of story then Wing, and personally I like them both for their own strengths.

Wing Gundams and SEED Gundams would match pretty evenly. Freedom is a beast with all that firepower, for one. The three CPU's Gundams are pretty powerful as well. And the Providence... well, I personally consider Kira's victory to be a massive fluke, let's just say that.

Libra would murder Genesis completely.

Design-wise, the SEED Gundams have a more generic feel to them. On the one hand, it makes them feel somewhat recycled, which isn't a good thing compared to the fresher, more interesting designs of Wing. On the other hand, they also feel more military, rather than the eccentric Gundams from Wing, and I'm a fan of organized military.

Both series have their own merits. Overall, I prefer Wing a little bit, but SEED (without taking Destiny into account) is a worthy addition to the Gundam universe, even if Kira is one of the most annoying anime protagonists I've ever seen (at least he kicks a** in the last couple episodes. Now Athrun on the other hand...) I prefer some UC to SEED, and Zeta and 8th MS rank with Wing as my fav Gundam series, but SEED is a pretty good series overall, in my humble opinion.

Call me a black sheep, but I actually enjoyed both Gundam SEED and Gundam SEED Destiny (for the most part). sweatdrop

I think Lacus'es personnality change comparisson to Emperor Palpatine is a bit a extreme Palpatine committed mass crimes while Emperor.
Lacus just has strong influence and she knew what was going on in the war and decided to do something.

Robin: She goes from an innocent, even vacant, pop star, to leading a third party faction, to basically deciding that Durandal was more dangerous than the guy with his finger wrapped around the trigger of a planet-threatening WMD. And she acts like there IS no middle ground between her beliefs and everything that's wrong.

Aona: Stargazer is a three-episode OVA being released through the Bandai Channel website. It takes place concurrently with Destiny, dealing with events in the wake of Break the World (the Junius Seven drop). The major characters are Sven Cal Bayan, a pilot for the Alliance's Phantom Pain unit (same unit as Neo and the three pilots from Destiny), and Selene McGriff, a researcher for a deep space exploration organization called DSSD. Each episode is only 15 minutes long, but it features an entirely different staff from Seed and Destiny, and it shows in the tone. Stargazer is (IMO, at least) more mature than its brothers.

Oh come now Void my point still stands Palpatine's acts were on a much larger scale then Lacus would ever do.

So I beleive the comparisson while partly just in some people's eyes it's just a bit much.

While I liked the orginal Gundam SEED, Stargazer and the Astray series Destiny seems to lack. It seems the later half of the series was made up as it went. Also I don't like how Fukuda is somewhat bias towards his wife which is why I believe Shinn was shafted and why they screwed up Athrun and Cagalli's relationship. Also I just don't get why no one seems to care how people defect. Except for Dearka who only was given a demossion but still there should of been at least a fricken exucution here and there.