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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:05 pm


I read a report about plan B a new morning after pill that is different from abortion. It occured to me that the ED discussion is leading into the thought banning it...

http://www.go2planb.com/section/about/index.html

As for me, I believe the morning after pill should be legalize, but only because it is not abortion, here's why...

The pill must be taken within 72 hours of sex, and it works to kill the sperm and prevent fertilization. It isn't abortion and should not be treated as such, what do you think?
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:08 pm


The morning after pill doesn't seem to be abdicating responsibility like abortion does, either. Unlike abortion, the morning after pill isn't taken in response to pregnancy, it works to prevent it.

I'm for it. To me, it's not really any worse than using normal birth control.

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:19 pm


Glad we agree on contraception. smile
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:48 pm


I agree too! It saves so much time and arguement. But the question is now, will they do it? Or are they too stubborn to take it in account?

"He used a condom, I took the pill. What's the point?"

Boom, pregnancy and it's too late.

But I still think the pill is a good idea. I just hope sexually active people who don't want children take it into consideration.

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:42 pm


The morning after pill is kind of an emergency thing. It's called "EMC" or something like that. It happens if the condom slips off, or if the woman forgets the pill that day, or in cases of rape, etc. It takes quite a toll on the body, but I think it would eliminate the need for abortion if people actually used it.
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:52 am


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I read a report about plan B a morning after pill that is different from abortion. It occured to me that the ED discussion is leading into the thought banning it...

As for me, I believe the morning after pill should be legalize, but only because it is not abortion, here's why...

The pill must be taken within 72 hours of sex, and it works to kill the sperm and prevent fertilization. It isn't abortion and should not be treated as such, what do you think?


From the point of a logical debator, yeah I somewhat agree. From the point of a Catholic, it's a confliction of ideals.

But the lifespan of a sperm is 72 hours inside the womb... I just read that yesterday in fact.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:39 am


ermmm....hmm. Ah, here it is.


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=48082


Morning after pill can prevent the fertilized egg from clinging to the uterus.
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:46 am


lymelady
ermmm....hmm. Ah, here it is.


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=48082


Morning after pill can prevent the fertilized egg from clinging to the uterus.


So implantation doesn't occur. I'm not really sure, but I'd still say it would be too early to feel guilty or morally wrong using it. It's more a precaution, to me anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:27 am


Its the same thing as abortion! It isn't preventing Pregnancy if the egg is already fertilized. An fertilized egg no matter how small is still human life.
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:33 pm


lymelady
ermmm....hmm. Ah, here it is.


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=48082


Morning after pill can prevent the fertilized egg from clinging to the uterus.


I was talkign about plan B... I think we might have got a little misunderstanding on what the morning after pill is. I find out again...

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:35 pm


http://www.go2planb.com/section/about/index.html

This is what I meant by plan B, I'll post it up there as well.
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:46 pm


contrception is still before fertilization. This is after. The morning after pill keeps an already fertilized egg from attaching itself to the uterus so it can grow... its a form of abortion.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:49 pm


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contrception is still before fertilization. This is after. The morning after pill keeps an already fertilized egg from attaching itself to the uterus so it can grow... its a form of abortion.


Plan B is a new morning after pill to be taken within 72 hours. It isn't a contraception in that it prevents fertilization, it doesn't work if the Egg has already been fertilized.
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:54 pm


Quote:
How does Plan B work (mechanism of action)?
Plan B is believed to act as an emergency contraceptive principally by preventing ovulation or fertilization (by altering tubal transport of sperm and/or ova). In addition, it may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium. Plan B is not effective if a woman is pregnant. Plan B is a contraceptive and cannot terminate an established pregnancy.

Will Plan B harm an unborn fetus?
There is no evidence that Plan B would harm a pregnant woman or a developing fetus if the product were accidentally taken during early pregnancy. Studies involving women who have inadvertently taken combined oral contraceptives containing levonorgestrel during early pregnancy suggest that these drugs do not have an adverse effect on the fetus.


I'm pretty sure that's what it means. I'm easily confused so I might be wrong.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:03 pm


Yeah, it does the same thing. Basically, it won't harm a fetus. It harms a zygote though. To some who are anti-abortion, it is not a life that early. To others, it is. Some people feel that it isn't a life until it develops a bit more.

Edit: was looking up that e word. It's the uterus lining in a stage of the menstrual cycle basically.
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