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 Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:45 pm
You all claim you want to better the world and start your own government, and that is fine, what you might not understand is that people are afraid of change. You aslo have thoughts about amassing an army and starting a global conquest or something of the like, what you don't get, is that you will have to kill. Are you prepared to kill someone? Have you ever killed, anything, bigger than a spider or some other bug/arthropod? Well, I have, about two years ago, I acciedently shot a Dove with my bow, it did not die instantly, so I had to crush it's frail body with a rock. I killed for the very first time, something that was bigger thatn a bug. I have never forgotten that day. So please consider your actions before you let fly an arrow of decision.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:55 pm
I believe most of the current posters on Novos are with me when I say we are for peaceful solutions. Yes, people are afraid of change, but they're afraid of being forced even more. Change is inevitable...force isn't. And while not all conflicts have peaceful resolutions, getting the word out to the public certainly should be. And I certainly hope Novos maintains these peaceful notions.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:20 pm
Violence is not the answer, but violence is inescapable. Not everyone will follow a single government. They would be required too. A complex web of laws and such would be needed to keep that person, and those they govern to keep violence from consuming the government that they've worked so hard to create.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:49 am
can you name a civilsation that forged an empire through conquest, that hadn't impolded?
a long term solution can only be found through peaceful means.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:11 am
Tenescowri can you name a civilsation that forged an empire through conquest, that hadn't impolded? a long term solution can only be found through peaceful means.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:02 am
Ehi...while the British empire didn't implode, much of its territory did eventually gain independence. The British empire was also one of colonies, not consolidation, like the Roman or Ottoman empire.
But that does raise a question. Britain was the most predominant colony-based empire, but it was not the only one. This is a key point in history - the proliferation of such widespread colonies - that it seems to be a turning point in defining what "political control" means. What will conquests and empires look like in this day of rapid information and globalization?
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:45 pm
Wow, I was just pissed off when I wrote this. Now look! People actually post on it.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:47 pm
Wraths_Kin You all claim you want to better the world and start your own government, and that is fine, what you might not understand is that people are afraid of change. You aslo have thoughts about amassing an army and starting a global conquest or something of the like, what you don't get, is that you will have to kill. Are you prepared to kill someone? Have you ever killed, anything, bigger than a spider or some other bug/arthropod? Well, I have, about two years ago, I acciedently shot a Dove with my bow, it did not die instantly, so I had to crush it's frail body with a rock. I killed for the very first time, something that was bigger thatn a bug. I have never forgotten that day. So please consider your actions before you let fly an arrow of decision. -gasps- How dare I say that! I should hit meself with a golf club until I learn the error of my ways.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:55 pm
Swordmaster Dragon I believe most of the current posters on Novos are with me when I say we are for peaceful solutions. Yes, people are afraid of change, but they're afraid of being forced even more. Change is inevitable...force isn't. And while not all conflicts have peaceful resolutions, getting the word out to the public certainly should be. And I certainly hope Novos maintains these peaceful notions. Can ye name one civilization that was "peaceful"? I do agree with you though, we should try and be peaceful MOST of the time. If someone comes into our country/nation/state, and bombs us, we probably shouldn't take that lying down(if there's anyone left to take that standing up).
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:45 am
The only civilization I can think of that was "peaceful" to any extent was Korea before 1840. And Korea was raped and pillaged on an almost-yearly basis, mainly by Japanese and Chinese military using the peninsula as a vantage point for their respective armies.
Our ideas and intents must always be peaceful, even though our actions won't - and simply can't - always be that way.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:16 pm
Violence is not the way to go. That will meet with too much resistance. You want to play on peoples emotions, while logic is good, it will not get you very far when used alone.
Yes, I am back, and I plan to post on a regular basis now.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:00 am
While violence is not the way to go to be sure, I never understood how to "use others' emotions", as Kisiru suggests. In my experience, that's always led to even more trouble; after all, if people find out they've been manipulated, they tend to retaliate.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:15 am
I'm not exactly saying to "manipulate" people, I'm saying use propaganda, make people feel guilty. They can not blame you for their own reactions. The reactions are theirs after all. Play on emotions and use them to our advantage.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:38 pm
Remember, we will be the ones on the good side. I don't want there to be any reason to doubt that. Instead of calling it propaganda, cal it public education. We tell the whole truth and the people should realize how much better our offer sounds. The combination of logic and emotion, much stronger than either are alone.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:48 pm
And while we may never achieve global disarmament, we can always hold peace as a value and goal to be constantly and forever worked toward. Some people have mentioned that the need to use weapons will always exist, and I believe this, however these weapons need only be used in self-defence. Note that I did not say retaliation. Self-defence can be aggressive, but retaliation is not self-defence.
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