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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:27 pm


This is now the discussion thread, please discuss all things here not on the constitution thread!

Thanks for your support. It takes alot of planning to create something like this, and hopefully with enough support this may help shape our future!

And Remember Donations in Gold are always accepted! (reward me for my hard work!) biggrin
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:35 pm


Article I- Dispertion of Power

The government will be divided into three branches:

Executive- The Executive branch contains the Pres. Vice. Pres, and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, along with the Cabinet containing the following offices:

Welfare of the State - Anti-Terrorism/Defense
Education
Agriculture
Inter-State Relations- Dealing with relations between the different states.
Public Works- Urban/Rural Development
Enviromental/Wildlife- Regulated the Enviromental policies, and national parks/wildlife refuges, as well as the status of endangered/extinct species.

Legislative- Contains 3 Branches
Senate
Representative Congress
People's Legislative Assembly-Detailed in a later article

Judicial- Contains a judge from each member state and a high judge elected by the other judges.

All Branches Detailed in Individual Articles

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:56 pm


Article II- Power of the Branches- Detailed

President- The President has the power to propose and veto amendments to the constitution. He has the abilty to propose war. He may appoint officers to the posts of the cabinet pending senate approval. Must be 35 years of age, a natural born citizen and lived in the nation for at least 10 years. He is elected by a majority vote by the people. He will be limited to 2 five year terms.

Vice President- President of the Senate Presides Over Senate Sessions. Must be 30 years of age, and a natural born citizen of the Nation. Appointed by the president. May only be vice-president while the president who appointed him/her is president, until he/she is appointd by a future president or the president who appointd him/her term is up.

Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces- The Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces. He has the ability to propose war, and to porpose amendments dealing with the armed forces. He however does not have the power to veto amenments that are passed by congress. Appointed by a majority vote of the combined senate, house, and People's Assembly. Must be 35 years of age, and a natural born citizen, lived in nation for at least 5 years. Limited to an unlimited number of 5 year terms.

Senate- A single senator is elected by a majority of the people in his/her state. They must live in the state they run for, and must be 30 years of age. Each senator is limited to a 4 year term. Each Senator may propose amendments and acts.

Representive House- Along with the Senate approves and proposes amendments. They mst be 25 years of age and a citizen of the state they are running for. They have 2 year terms and may may propse laws and acts.

People's General Assembly- An assembly that is open to all citizens of the country over 18. This assembly may vote on laws passed by the house and senate. They may propose amendments. If a proposed amendment is accepted by a 2/3 majority, it passes to the House. This is elaborated on below.

All laws/amendments are passed by a 2/3 majority of the houses.

Judicial- Group of judges from each state. They form the highest court in the nation. They determine wheter passed amendments violate the Constitution of other amendments of the Constitution. If a law does, it will be removed, or rewritten. Rewritten laws must pass through the passing process.

Law/Act Passing Process:

A law may be proposed at any level, but it must start the passing process at the bottom.

People's Assembly votes on whether to pass.. if yes, passes to House, If No, act/amendment is struck down and may not be reproposed for 5 years.

House, should a law make it to the house, a majority vote will pass it to the senate.

Senate, If a bill makes it here, and they pass it, the president may choose to veto or sign the bill.

Pres, If signed the bill becomes law, and must within 2 years of passing be reviewed by the courts for constiutionality.

Courts- If it is constiutional it will continue to be in effect if not, it is removed, and must be rewritten or dropped. Should the court not make it to a bill, it is suspended until the can.

Judges, after appointed, are at their posts for 10 years. should they choose to step down before term is up, the state whose judge stepped down must elect a new one.

All members of all parts of the government are bound by the constitution. Should they be held in question of their actions, the People's assembly may vote for impeachment. If approved, the final decision of impeachment rest with a majority vote 3/4 of the supreme court.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:03 pm


Yes I will, I actually have this entire thing typed out somewhere, I just don't know where. As for the enviromental regulations, that will be a cabinet branch! Thanks for reminding me!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:40 pm


Article III: Regional Government

Each state will have it's own congress that passes laws and amendments. The laws may not supersede any amendment in the national constitution. The state governments will be set up as a replica of the national goverernment except, they will not have a People's Assembly.

Artical IV: People's Rights

The rights of the people are listed below, they may not be altered or suspended in any way.

1: All citizens have the right to Worship, Speak, and Talk as they wish.
2: Freedom of the Press wil not be restricted, the government may not restrict the rights of the press to publish.
3: All citizens have the right to bear arms for personal defense.
4: Slavery and Indentured Servitude is not allowed in any form.
5: No peoples may be discriminated because of Race, Religion, Gender, or Sexual Preferences, or denied their right to vote.

Article V: Limitations of Governmental Power

Although organizations may be set up to regulate the ratings of Motion Pictures, Video Games, Books, Music and other Entertainment or Informational Mediums; the government and these organizations may not alter these because of their content. They can only rate them accordingly. The job of the ratings is to alert the purchasers of content, not to regulate what can and cannot be published.

The president may not enact any ordinances, amendments or laws without the approval of the legislative and judicial branches.

The government is allowed to regulate trade and taxes although only at a federal level, such as Income Tax and Social Security Retirement, and International trade. Interstate Trade and Property/Business Taxes may only be regulated by the state governements.

Article VI: Incorporating Cities and States:

Cities may be incorporated by the approval of the states in whatever way is established by state laws. States may apply for statehood to the Senate. The Senate must approve this by a 3.4 majority vote of yes or no.

Article VII: Powers of the Cabinet

Welfare of the State:
This department deals with the regulations of borders both land and sea, and the prevention of terrorist attacks by constitutional ways to be determined by the courts. They also regulate the defenses of the Nation, in ways such as building an army. The army may only be called on by the Supreme Commander pending approval by the People's Assemble approval.

Education: Regulates funding and curriculum of educational systems in the nation. They also regulate the tests given in schools. Curriculum across the nation should be standardized as well as the tests. A citizen is required to begin schooling at age 6 and must continue until age 18, with the option to pursue higher education.

Agriculture: Regulates growth of agricultural products. In same way as the current US Department of Agriculture. (To Be expanded)

Inter-State Relations (Interior Regulations) Body responsible for the welfare and communication of the Indigineuos tribes of the Nation.

Public Works: Responsible for the regulation of transportation, such as the building of roads, highways, and canals across the nation.

Environmental/Wildlife Protection: Regulates the use of the environment. Helps protect the enviroment, and wildlife. protection of endangered species and regulation of hunting and fishing main responisbilities.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:45 pm


Article VIII: Regulations

Languages of communication will not be regulated however all official documents will be published and written in English due to it's current status as the universal language.

Measures will be written using the Metric System due to it's wider use, on government papers and road signs.

Article IX: The Clause of Peace

The goal of this constitution would be a global government that divides the world into 25 States. In the event that the world were to be fully unified, and peace finally achieved any armed forces will be disbanded, and be made officially illegal within 5 years of the peace being achieved. The post of Supreme Commander would no longer be needed and would therefore cease to exist.

Article X: The Elastic Clause

The government has the power to do whatever necessary to preserve the freedoms of it's citizens without infringing on their rights, or violating an amendment.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:01 pm


Please Note: Articles Will Be Expanded in time, however I need Ideas, please send them: See first post!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:06 am


Article XI: Protection of Inventors
Formation of Copyright Bureau- Responsible for issuing patents!

All Items invented and submitted to the Copyright Bureau will recieve a patent. These patents may be licensed by the inventor to earn money on a contract negotiated by the two parties. Punishment due to the violation of the contract will be determined by the severity of the breach. These patents do not need to be renewed and will be stored electronically and as a hard copy.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:28 pm


I'd like to point out that Novos already has a constitution, though it only has an article on amendments at the moment. We did not add anything more to it because we feared that making it to structured would kill Novos, especially at it's small size.

Previous to the enactment of that constitution, we put a lot of work into a much more comprehensive proposal.

The current constitution is here:http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=1954717
You can find links to both the old and current constitutions on our BluWiki page:http://www.bluwiki.org/go/The_Novos_Party
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:47 am


I appreciate the work you have put into this, but it's sheer size and the number of ideas held within make it impossible to discuss to satisfaction.

The problem lies in that we have not made any decisions yet. we haven't ruled out communism, those discussions are still going on. You made a line on education as if is was a said and done deal, but it is one of the most active discussions on the guild.

As of yet, Novos is not ready to start making a constitution for the perfect world government, because we haven't decided what that is.

If you want to give your input in a way that it can be more useful, join in the discussions so we can come to decisions and work toward bigger goals, thank you.

Myslec
Crew


Myslec
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:55 pm


Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of designing the perfect government, but I don't think we are ready yet. smile
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:22 pm


This isn't a suggestion to replace anything, it is simply an idea. Should it achive high popularity it might be otherwise, but I would really like people's help to finish this! REMEMBER THIS IS SIMPLY AN IDEA!!! smile biggrin biggrin smile

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Myslec
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:37 pm


My initial comments are thus:

What will the vote do?

How would 51 judges work together efficiently?

I don't think the president should have 5 year terms, it's too long.

In addition to the requirements to presidential candidates, one who has been a citizen and lived in the Us for the past 7 of at least 25 years.

It seems to me that the People's general assembly would consist of mainly people from the capital city, only these would be able to attend regular. This privilege would give one city far too much control over the nation.

Laws that are not in accordance with previous laws should override them, not be removed.

5 years is a long time to wait to propose an amendment.

the courts should review laws before they are even passed.

people should have all rights not taken away by the constitution. rights are far to numerous to list.

I am worried that the president might have issues working with the commander, especially if they were of different parties.

Spanish is fast becoming a second wold language, it to should be published in.

What is article 9? 25 states?

after 5 years, what if unsettlement occurs, we could end up in control of a dictator.

Article 10, nearly unlimited governmental power? not so good. this just asks the gov to push the limits of the law.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:23 pm


Myslec
My initial comments are thus:

What will the vote do? What Vote? Please explain!!!

How would 51 judges work together efficiently?
Please read my newest post!

I don't think the president should have 5 year terms, it's too long.
I personally think that anything less than that is too short, but if you really think that is too long PM me and I'll put it up for a vote in the forum.

In addition to the requirements to presidential candidates, one who has been a citizen and lived in the Us for the past 7 of at least 25 years. You can't say the US because this is pertaining to the entire world. So it wouldn't really matter where they were from.

It seems to me that the People's general assembly would consist of mainly people from the capital city, only these would be able to attend regular. This privilege would give one city far too much control over the nation. there would be a general assembly complex in the largest cities of each state, well since there would only be 7 states, you could use this as an example: The US is divided into fifty states each state is divided into counties. If there was one in each "county" in the largest city or the capitol then that would work. This would allow a large amount of participation.

Laws that are not in accordance with previous laws should override them, not be removed. Well if you overwrite a law you are in essence removing it because the newer one is replacing it.

5 years is a long time to wait to propose an amendment.
5 years is the time that needs to be waited between proposing an amendment similar to one that was rejected or found unconstitutional not any amendment.

the courts should review laws before they are even passed.
I said that.

people should have all rights not taken away by the constitution. rights are far to numerous to list. i understand that is why I have said I need help with ideas numerous times.

I am worried that the president might have issues working with the commander, especially if they were of different parties. the commander would be of the same party. A pres vice pres and commander would all run together much like a pres and vice pres does in the US.

Spanish is fast becoming a second wold language, it to should be published in. No, English has always been the universal language. Most countries require the learning of english as a second language already.

What is article 9? 25 states? I've changed this too 7 states one for each continent. It is establishing the districts there is a clause in the US constitution that is similar.

after 5 years, what if unsettlement occurs, we could end up in control of a dictator. Unsettlement is inevitable that is why the people's assemlby have the power to rise a vote for impeachement.

Article 10, nearly unlimited governmental power? not so good. this just asks the gov to push the limits of the law.

Well I will have to figure out a way to redo that, I can't at the moment as i lack time...but i will get to it!
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My responses are directly below what you typed. Please read it!

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