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rikeen90

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:39 pm


I seem to notice EVERY time a DBU character is brought into play, there is ENDLESS badgering and criticism. It doesn't stop. People, sometimes (but not all of the time) will not even give simple reasonable points. Why is DBZ hated so? It seems to me that some cannot take their precious comic characters losing to a DBU character, because they consider them inferior. It is getting old really fast.
DBU deserves much more credit than it is given. If not for plot, then for power. They are some strong, strong beings. One of the highest character/power ratios I have seen. Speed too.
There are a million points I am trying to make with one aggravated post, I guess this is just venting for me.
But if you are one of those people who hate DBZ, then please, tell me why?
And what justification does it give you to put down its' facts?
cry
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:58 pm


1. The animation sucks
2. The plot ain't great, either
3. There are way too many Gokuza morons running around
4. (Has a lot to do with #3) Superman vs. Goku - 'nuff said

Zachary Overkill


Kamikazek-Z

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:04 pm


Miguel OHara
1. The animation sucks
2. The plot ain't great, either
3. There are way too many Gokuza morons running around
4. (Has a lot to do with #3) Superman vs. Goku - 'nuff said

Your first two points have nothing to do with vx. threads what so ever. The third and fourth don't really make sense either. Just because they're a lot of idiots who overestimate the serie's characters to highly shouldn't affect your desision, nor does it affect the series itself. Just because a lot of people say Goku can beat Superman, who he can't, doesn't mean that Goku couldn't kick the crap out of Spiderman, who he could. Well, unless we're talking about Spidey with an insanely cheap power up, but that was just an example, you get the idea.

Though to be honest I don't really see the hatred twards DBZ that Rikeen is reffering to. A lot of people seem to place DBZ characters stats lower than I percive them, but that's understandible since DBZ stats are debatable. Except that whole Goku can't destroy planets thing, that one still anoys me...but I digress. I don't really seem to see much drastic undestimation or hatred tworads DBZ characters, at least not in this guild. There were several such threads in the AMC, but, you know, that was the AMC.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:42 pm


Captain Universe = Cheap?

SSJ and ridiculous amount of power coming from nowhere = fair?

Peter Benjamin Parker


Saiyan Master Vegeta
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:35 am


Miguel OHara
1. The animation sucks
2. The plot ain't great, either
3. There are way too many Gokuza morons running around
4. (Has a lot to do with #3) Superman vs. Goku - 'nuff said

Number 1 proves nothing. And in the first place, before you judge the animation, you have to judge the manga. And the style of the manga is just as good as any other. Blame FUNimation if you have animation complaints. Don't blame the series itself.

Number 2 is based off your opinion only. Again, it proves nothing.

Number 3 has nothing to do with anything. Fans don't constitute how good or bad a series is. Judging a series off of fan action is hellishly biased.

Number 4 is based off number 3, therefore it also has nothing to do with anything.

@ Rikeen: Agreed on all accounts. I'm just as sick of it as you are, if not more.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:39 pm


Personally, I still love the series, even GT to a lesser degree. My negative feelings towards DBU in vs threads stems from the fan boys who used to be attracted to them.

Count Omega
Crew


Jerhien

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:01 pm


Like I said, it's fashionable to hate the popular kids....
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:01 pm


*Looks around*
That point WOULD be valid.
I WOULD agree with you.
I WANT to believe you.
But the fact is...there are not "Gokuza Morons" running around in this guild, and it still happens.
But I get it Jerhien.
Alls I am sayin is, the characters themselves are pretty tough, but even against obvious wins, they are scrutinized, just to be picked on...

rikeen90


Kamikazek-Z

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:11 pm


Peter Benjamin Parker
Captain Universe = Cheap?

SSJ and ridiculous amount of power coming from nowhere = fair?


Actualy I would lean more twards-

SSJ and ridiculous amount of power coming fom nowhere=cheap

Captain Universe Spidey=Also cheap.

Altough I actualy don't think either of them are cheap, I just used the word cheap because...I don't know.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:44 pm


rikeen90
*Looks around*
That point WOULD be valid.
I WOULD agree with you.
I WANT to believe you.
But the fact is...there are not "Gokuza Morons" running around in this guild, and it still happens.
But I get it Jerhien.
Alls I am sayin is, the characters themselves are pretty tough, but even against obvious wins, they are scrutinized, just to be picked on...

I bolded the key part of your sentence, due to how rock solid it is. Completely agreed.

Saiyan Master Vegeta
Vice Captain


Dr Henry Pym
Captain

Dangerous Genius

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:32 pm


I actually like the series, I often argue against DBZ because I feel the character being compared is better. Hank Pym is my favorite character in Comics and if put up against ost of the DBZ universe would lose in a fight. It has nothing to do with a bias against DBZ, hell in Kyles original thread I supported Goku originally but was given enough proof to feel otherwise.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:47 pm


Personally, I try to take up for DBZ when I can, but I have picky spots.
I KNOW Superman would beat Goku 8/10 times. But i HATE it when people deny those 2 times that Goku could win. or when they underpower him. just so their views will be better understood. Its as if depowering them in other places is a gaint set up to show that goku would lose.
Personally, to hell with frieza, trunks, vegeta, gohan, etc.
I do not like poorly thought out material, when weighhed against good material. I mean...Id watch Bleach over DBZ almost any day. I only hate it when people undermind them. I like to take up for the "underdog" of sorts.
Sorry if i seem whiny, really, sorry.
But I dont like it.
But thats okay. Nothing I can do about it. Nothing I need to do about it.
Haha.

rikeen90


Saiyan Master Vegeta
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:57 pm


Know what you mean pal . . . I'm on the same boat as you. Just one with a DBZ design on the side xp

I even recall a moment in this guild, probably about a year ago, when someone said that Goku benches less than 40 tons . . .
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:35 pm


this is simply because the dbu are overpowered
who destroys the world by powering up?

[demona316]


rikeen90

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:13 pm


...Superman...can sneeze and blow up a galaxy...ur like, being hypocritical.
Sorry that I am being so blunt, I dont want to throw that in your face.
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