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 Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:03 am
okay, im not sure if any of you have heard of these objects or not, but HD 188051 b is a good example. That is to say, Gas giants that happen to have ended up in there respective stars habitable zones. I personally think that these planets are great places to look for life, but others seem to think that only the moons of these worlds will ever harbor life. Whats your take on it?
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:43 pm
I think it's possible that life could exsist in the clouds of gas giants. THing is, we're so stuck on trying to find life like ours. We keep the mindset that life needs all the things we need.
To really find life I think we need to throw away what we know and assume and just look in every possible place. We just might surprise ourselves.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:02 pm
yeah, totally
ive been saying it for many years now, but its not getting any less true
we think too anthropomorphically, aliens arent gonna be like us, theyre gonna be alien...
but yeah, we totally need to look EVERYWHERE, even in the vicinities of hot jupiters, and deep frozen icewads thousands of AU away from any source of heat, maybe even in the photospheres of stars themselves...
we dont really know enough to rule anything out at this point...
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:33 pm
Noxes_Kaj yeah, totally ive been saying it for many years now, but its not getting any less true we think too anthropomorphically, aliens arent gonna be like us, theyre gonna be alien... but yeah, we totally need to look EVERYWHERE, even in the vicinities of hot jupiters, and deep frozen icewads thousands of AU away from any source of heat, maybe even in the photospheres of stars themselves... we dont really know enough to rule anything out at this point... indeed. 3nodding and I think overall us trying to find life that fits how we are won't really change until we actually find another life form. Once we see another example of life that's not ours then we'll begin to learm nore of what's possible. ... RIght now though that doesn't seem all that likely. xp
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:48 pm
this dosen't make sense. life on a gas giant is not possible. the atmospheric pressure would kill almost anything, and beside there is no possble life on a planet that has a psi of over a couple hundred.
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:17 pm
fire-diablo16 this dosen't make sense. life on a gas giant is not possible. the atmospheric pressure would kill almost anything, and beside there is no possble life on a planet that has a psi of over a couple hundred. We're talking about life in the clouds, not on the surface. There are areas of gas planets were pressure and/or temp is about equal to what it is here on the surface of earth.
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:24 am
fire-diablo16 this dosen't make sense. life on a gas giant is not possible. the atmospheric pressure would kill almost anything, and beside there is no possble life on a planet that has a psi of over a couple hundred. you can get life to evolve at any given pressure, it just a matter of adaptation... you forget there is life at the bottom of the oceans and deep in the earths crust. If life can make it there, it can certainly make it somewhere in the depths of a gas giants envelope. you need to open your mind to the possibility of life unlike life as we know it
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:31 am
AstronomyGirl fire-diablo16 this dosen't make sense. life on a gas giant is not possible. the atmospheric pressure would kill almost anything, and beside there is no possble life on a planet that has a psi of over a couple hundred. We're talking about life in the clouds, not on the surface. There are areas of gas planets were pressure and/or temp is about equal to what it is here on the surface of earth. that too razz for example, there is a region of venus' atmosphere that is quite hospitable to us. And our breathing mix is even a lifting gas in that soup of an atmosphere, can you say floating habs? biggrin while thats not the original point I was making, its still a nifty example of the same phenomena 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:33 pm
Noxes_Kaj AstronomyGirl fire-diablo16 this dosen't make sense. life on a gas giant is not possible. the atmospheric pressure would kill almost anything, and beside there is no possble life on a planet that has a psi of over a couple hundred. We're talking about life in the clouds, not on the surface. There are areas of gas planets were pressure and/or temp is about equal to what it is here on the surface of earth. that too razz for example, there is a region of venus' atmosphere that is quite hospitable to us. And our breathing mix is even a lifting gas in that soup of an atmosphere, can you say floating habs? biggrin while thats not the original point I was making, its still a nifty example of the same phenomena 3nodding oh... I must have missed your point then... what were you trying to say then? sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:32 pm
AstronomyGirl oh... I must have missed your point then... what were you trying to say then? sweatdrop the bit about floating habs for us in venus' atmosphere blaugh its a nifty idea, but not the original point I was making ^^;;
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:44 pm
Noxes_Kaj AstronomyGirl oh... I must have missed your point then... what were you trying to say then? sweatdrop the bit about floating habs for us in venus' atmosphere blaugh its a nifty idea, but not the original point I was making ^^;; oh, so more of us habitating areas in the atmospheres of other planets. SURE! I think it's possible. We just ahve to find some technology that woudl allow us to build structures that could hold us and still be able to float above the surface without falling and hitting the surface. blaugh
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:09 pm
AstronomyGirl Noxes_Kaj AstronomyGirl oh... I must have missed your point then... what were you trying to say then? sweatdrop the bit about floating habs for us in venus' atmosphere blaugh its a nifty idea, but not the original point I was making ^^;; oh, so more of us habitating areas in the atmospheres of other planets. SURE! I think it's possible. We just ahve to find some technology that woudl allow us to build structures that could hold us and still be able to float above the surface without falling and hitting the surface. blaugh i dont think its really all that difficult personally, given the right circumstances of course 3nodding my original point was about us finding other life out there, though I happen to think that it would be very useful to be able to float habs for ourselves in said places where we can find gas giant life, so that we may study it up close and personal 3nodding Im very optomistic about the prospects of life, so I also tend to think about what comes after we discover alien life xd putting the cart before the horse, i know sweatdrop not too mention, we need to be bale to get to those other stars before we can even think about building little sky-habs for oursleves, but I have ideas concerning that too ^_^
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:39 pm
Noxes_Kaj i dont think its really all that difficult personally, given the right circumstances of course 3nodding my original point was about us finding other life out there, though I happen to think that it would be very useful to be able to float habs for ourselves in said places where we can find gas giant life, so that we may study it up close and personal 3nodding Im very optomistic about the prospects of life, so I also tend to think about what comes after we discover alien life xd putting the cart before the horse, i know sweatdrop not too mention, we need to be bale to get to those other stars before we can even think about building little sky-habs for oursleves, but I have ideas concerning that too ^_^ lol. Yea there's a lot of things that we need to achomplish technologically before any of this will be possible. It's nice to think about though. I think it can be possible someday.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:51 pm
AstronomyGirl Noxes_Kaj i dont think its really all that difficult personally, given the right circumstances of course 3nodding my original point was about us finding other life out there, though I happen to think that it would be very useful to be able to float habs for ourselves in said places where we can find gas giant life, so that we may study it up close and personal 3nodding Im very optomistic about the prospects of life, so I also tend to think about what comes after we discover alien life xd putting the cart before the horse, i know sweatdrop not too mention, we need to be bale to get to those other stars before we can even think about building little sky-habs for oursleves, but I have ideas concerning that too ^_^ lol. Yea there's a lot of things that we need to achomplish technologically before any of this will be possible. It's nice to think about though. I think it can be possible someday. Yay. I can't wait. ^_^
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:29 pm
It's possible, but there is no evidence for now, and it would be extremely hard to find out, unless we go there (that's not gonna happen in the near future).
Arthur C. Clarke described such life forms (living on the planet Jupiter, though) in his sci-fi book "2001 A Space Odyssey" (and the sequels).
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