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Civet Moon
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:14 pm


I recently saw "Benny and Joon" for the first time. The woman, Joon, is "mentally ill," but her illness is not given a specific label (though by diagnostic criteria, it seems like it might be schizophrenia). I have also seen "A Beautiful Mind," which is based upon the life of John Nash, a man with schizophrenia. Then there's "Girl, Interrupted," about a young woman with borderline personality disorder, and "Rain Man," about a man with autism, and his brother.

My question is this: What other movies are there that portray mental illness or brain disorders? How accurate do you think their portrayal is? We all know that the media influences public opinion quite a bit, even if they know it's fictionalized. What is your opinion of this?

As for "Rain Man," I do not know anyone as severly affected with autism as Dustin Hoffman's character, so I'm not sure how accurate this portrayal is. I do appreciate the movie for calling more attention to autism, but there are things about it that frustrate me. Because it's the only well known "autism movie," people assume all autistics are like the character in this film, when autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning individuals vary greatly in their ability to function, and the autistic traits they display. People also assume that all autistics are lightning calculators when the truth is, only a minority of autistics are savants.
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:59 pm


Well, "A Beautiful Mind" and "Girl, Interrupted" are two of my favorite movies. The portrayals are fairly accurate, as they are nonfiction.

"Rain Man" is one movie that hollywoodized autism and made everyone believe that all autistics are great at gambaling. When, as you said, only few are savants. So, that one is a bit dramatic.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:13 pm


I've seen "A Beautiful Mind" and read John Nash's biography by the same name. One change they made in the movie is his medications. In real life, his rehabilitation only happened after he went off his medications. The movie producers changed that so as to not encourage people to go off their meds.

I've heard of two movies that depict Schizophrenia that I have not yet seen. One is called "Tarnation" and one is called "See Grace Fly." Let me know if anybody has seen them!

Another movie that depicts mental illness is a movie called "House of Cards." It's very good. It's about a little girl who develops an illness that seems to be Autism, although I don't think they name it as such. Her mother goes to great lengths to try to enter the world of her daughter. It's very touching, though not realistic as the girl appears to suddenly be "cured" at one point.
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:29 pm


I've never seen 'Rain Man', so I don't know exactly how severe the autism protrayed in it is, but some autistics seem to be a lot worse than others. Apparently, more males have it, but the females that have it usually have it more severely.

I need to watch 'A Beautiful Mind'. I've wanted to for some time now. I've heard it's very good.

There's a kids film based on a Jaquiline Wilson book about two girls who's mother has manic depression. I thought it was a rubbish film, but then again, I would like to burn a lot of Jaquiline Wilson's books. stressed What I didn't understand about it, was that the mother had been in hospital before, but didn't take any medication. confused

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dizzyjess

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:37 am


I thought A Beautiful Mind was very good but I was less impressed with Girl Interrupted. Sure, I love the movie but I don't think it gave an accurate portrayal. If you read the book then you'll see that the characters aren't like they were in the film. Hollywood beefed them up, made them more extreme, weirder, it was almost like they wanted to take away the feautres that would make it easier for "normal" people to relate to them. The worst though in terms of innacurate portrayals was Lisa. In the book she's a bit of a handful sometimes who liked to get a reaction out of people and showed a bit of a disregard for the rules both of the ward and society but she was a sweetie really. There was no hint of the malicious murdering psychopath that's in the film.

Good film nonetheless but read the book too because its way better.

Donnie Darko is a good film about schizophrenia, if not a little confusing. Not an accurate portrayal of your average schizophrenic but still good.

Then there's my favourite film, pi. I'm not quite sure whats wrong with him but there's definately something. Its a great film if you want lots of things to think about, it covers religion, maths, nature, the stock market, lots of things. The anguish of mental illness is pretty well presented and the soundtrack is great to boot.
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 3:04 pm


Another movie that has something to do with mental illness is "Gothika." Even though it has more to do with ghosts than mental illness, it still seems like a realistic portrayal of the horror of psychosis, and the pain of dealing with mental health staff.

Yesterday "Me, Myself and Irene" was on television, so I watched it. It was very funny, but so unrealistic. They said multiple times that he was Schizophrenic, even though they were obviously trying to depict a split-personality. The entertainment value of the movie was good, but I wish they hadn't perpetuated that myth.

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Then there's my favourite film, pi. I'm not quite sure whats wrong with him but there's definately something. Its a great film if you want lots of things to think about, it covers religion, maths, nature, the stock market, lots of things. The anguish of mental illness is pretty well presented and the soundtrack is great to boot.


Yeah! That was a great movie!

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 2:36 pm


I really enjoyed the movie K-Pax. From the trailers and all, you may just think it's a sci-fi flick, but a great deal of it actually takes place in a mental hospital. The main character is either an alien, or a delusional, amnesiac savant who's really good at escaping from mental hospitals. According to my girlfriend (my personal "expert" in these cases) it provides a fairly accurate protrayal of mental hospital life. Kevin Spacey has some cool lines, too. "I would say you're in need of a thorazine drip, Doctor."

I also liked Donnie Darko, but as far as I recall, there was very little in it that actually had to do with his mental illness, other than his visits to the therapist and the mention of pills. His problems really came from the whole time warp/alternate universe deal he got mixed up in. That movie still confuses me. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:43 pm


I loved Donnie Darko. Great movie and I don't think he was Schizophrenic, since he really was seeing that bunny. On the other hand his behavior in HS could indicate something. "He told me to forcibly insert the love-hate lifeline card into my a**s!" -Miss Farmer. Anyone know how different the director's cut is from the original?

How about Mercury Rising with Bruce Willis. The kid was autistic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:29 pm


Donnie Darko is a movie with mental illness. Im not sure what illness but it involves seeing a 6foot tall demonic bunny rabbit, telling Donnie to kill people and burn down peoples houses, which he does because he doesnt want Frank, the bunny, to leave because donnie doesnt want to be alone and wants to find out things about life with the help of Frank.......
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:19 pm


Donnie Darko is good...so many illnesses it could be...not necessarily schitzophrenia...


One flew over a cookoos nest (sp?) is another one...good portrail of the old school of psychology...with electric shock therapy etc...they didnt know better in those days....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:24 am


barbsy

One flew over a cookoos nest (sp?) is another one...good portrail of the old school of psychology...with electric shock therapy etc...they didnt know better in those days....


I dunno. They kept doing it for quite a while, I think. It seems like they thought "Hmm... maybe if we electricute them, they're brains will work okay again". *A few electricutions later* "Oh... it seems that just kills them. But now we don't have to take care of them. Lets continue!"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:11 am


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I dunno. They kept doing it for quite a while, I think. It seems like they thought "Hmm... maybe if we electricute them, they're brains will work okay again". *A few electricutions later* "Oh... it seems that just kills them. But now we don't have to take care of them. Lets continue!"


Actually, that method of treatment is still used sometimes today, on patients with extreme cases of depression. It is usually a last resort, and the patients are sedated before having the treatment administered, so they don't feel it. It usually works wonders, though one of the side effects is the loss of short term memory right before the treatment, and it also tends to have only a temporary effect.

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weeping pixie

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:17 am


Civet Moon
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I dunno. They kept doing it for quite a while, I think. It seems like they thought "Hmm... maybe if we electricute them, they're brains will work okay again". *A few electricutions later* "Oh... it seems that just kills them. But now we don't have to take care of them. Lets continue!"


Actually, that method of treatment is still used sometimes today, on patients with extreme cases of depression. It is usually a last resort, and the patients are sedated before having the treatment administered, so they don't feel it. It usually works wonders, though one of the side effects is the loss of short term memory right before the treatment, and it also tends to have only a temporary effect.


indeed that is true...but these days they have ALOT more control and the patients have a choice to do it or not...

few decades ago some mental institutions would but patients in an induced coma n give them shock therapy without consent from the patient
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:28 am


Civet Moon
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I dunno. They kept doing it for quite a while, I think. It seems like they thought "Hmm... maybe if we electricute them, they're brains will work okay again". *A few electricutions later* "Oh... it seems that just kills them. But now we don't have to take care of them. Lets continue!"


Actually, that method of treatment is still used sometimes today, on patients with extreme cases of depression. It is usually a last resort, and the patients are sedated before having the treatment administered, so they don't feel it. It usually works wonders, though one of the side effects is the loss of short term memory right before the treatment, and it also tends to have only a temporary effect.


Yes, I did know that. It seems the dangerous methods used in the past still have benefits for depression today. I read about a woman who had a hole drilled through her skull or something, she had fatigue and chronic drepression.

What I was saying, is that in the past, they electricuted people to the degree that quite a few died as a result. neutral

Uuugh.. memory loss. I'm becoming friends with a girl who has amnesia. It sounds like a real nightmare! But I suppose it's better htan depression.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:56 pm


weeping pixie
few decades ago some mental institutions would but patients in an induced coma n give them shock therapy without consent from the patient


Yes, they did that to my great-grandmother!

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Yes, I did know that. It seems the dangerous methods used in the past still have benefits for depression today. I read about a woman who had a hole drilled through her skull or something, she had fatigue and chronic drepression.


Yep, lobotomies were once used to treat all manner of mental-illness and more. They treated psychosis like that until recently. It was only outlawed in the U.S. in the '70s, and not because of some sort of public outrage. Nope, it was because they were happy to give it up when they started using drugs that produced the same result. Anti-psychotics act like chemical lobotomies.

http://www.lobotomy.info/adventures.html
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