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Kyoki Marie
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:03 pm


As most of the guild knows by know, I'm Christian. I've been reading my Bible, and I've noticed that on a whole, the Bible doesn't mention herbs- at least not the parts I've read. So I'm making a more active effort (in the laziest way possible, via the net) to find out where herbs are mentioned in the old or new testaments.

I know that we have a lot of pagans and wiccans here, also, and I'm certain we have our fair share of most faiths. Thusly....

Discuss: What does your faith say about herbs?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:35 am


Not sure about herbs, but I'm pretty sure there are sacred trees of sorts mentioned in the Biblical texts.

From the standpoint of my faith, there really isn't any standard, but Earth-based paths are generally going to have some sort of focus in herbs. While there are a variety of 'magical herb correpondences' I'm more of the practical type. I don't so much care if a given herb is supposed to bring prosperity or luck... I'm interested in if it's a yummy wild food or could help soothe a stomach ache!

Starlock


Kyoki Marie
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:37 pm


Starlock
Not sure about herbs, but I'm pretty sure there are sacred trees of sorts mentioned in the Biblical texts.

From the standpoint of my faith, there really isn't any standard, but Earth-based paths are generally going to have some sort of focus in herbs. While there are a variety of 'magical herb correpondences' I'm more of the practical type. I don't so much care if a given herb is supposed to bring prosperity or luck... I'm interested in if it's a yummy wild food or could help soothe a stomach ache!
*laughs* I know that feeling! Yarrow seems to have been brought to my attention left and right recently, by books, people, magazine articles... I even spotted some on the side of the road, so I might take the hint and check into it a little more.

OH! *celebrates* I had my first intuitive herb identification the other day! (And I saw bears, but the herb!) I usually can meander along and by feeling and smelling and looking at a plant, I can ... feel? if it can do something. I can't always tell -what- it can do, but usually I can say "This plant has a medicinal purpose." or "This plant is edible" or "this plant is toxic". But almost a year ago, I was walking with my dad, and I saw a plant I'd never seen before, and I picked it up. It "felt" like yarrow, but he didn't know and neither did I.

I've read about yarrow in books, but I've never seen a picture of it, or even a very good description. Every book I've ever looked in gave such a vague description or sketch that I wasn't sure, until the other day. I found it in a book I bought, and sure enough, it was yarrow!

YAY intuitive identification!

(Of course, always make positive identification of any plant before ingesting it or using it for medicine or food. *nods*)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:41 pm


The Bible tends not to mention many specifics. And, seeing as most of it is written in hebrew symbolism, it's kinda hard to tell if there are any herbs or plants that can really be taken at face value when they are mentioned.
All in all, there are a lot of revered herbs and plants in Christianity, like the olive (in all apects: fruit, tree, branch, oil and seed), but there's nothing that can really stand for it's own merit as a plant or herb.
Hope that helps!

AisilnnTheoron


Kyoki Marie
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:11 pm


AisilnnTheoron
The Bible tends not to mention many specifics. And, seeing as most of it is written in hebrew symbolism, it's kinda hard to tell if there are any herbs or plants that can really be taken at face value when they are mentioned.
All in all, there are a lot of revered herbs and plants in Christianity, like the olive (in all apects: fruit, tree, branch, oil and seed), but there's nothing that can really stand for it's own merit as a plant or herb.
Hope that helps!
I noticed that. Ah, well. I suppose, since plants are mentioned as a whole, God created them for use as foods and medicines, so I suppose even without specific "holy" or "special" herbs, they're still special.

What about you, Ais? Your faith say anything specific?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:23 am


Kyoki Marie
AisilnnTheoron
The Bible tends not to mention many specifics. And, seeing as most of it is written in hebrew symbolism, it's kinda hard to tell if there are any herbs or plants that can really be taken at face value when they are mentioned.
All in all, there are a lot of revered herbs and plants in Christianity, like the olive (in all apects: fruit, tree, branch, oil and seed), but there's nothing that can really stand for it's own merit as a plant or herb.
Hope that helps!
I noticed that. Ah, well. I suppose, since plants are mentioned as a whole, God created them for use as foods and medicines, so I suppose even without specific "holy" or "special" herbs, they're still special.

What about you, Ais? Your faith say anything specific?
Well, I don't really follow any certain religion or set spiritual faith. I try to draw upon spiritual knowledge and wisdom in general. I guess you could call me a Christian, seeing as I believe in a God and in Jesus bar Joseph, the Christ. However, I do practice healing magic and devination arts.

I do believe that in the Bible, there is a passage about God giving purpose to every living thing, plant, animal, stone, even the stars are set apart for physical and spiritual direction. So, taking that vague knowledge, and the common wisdom from hermetic sciences, Bhuddist holistic health practices, Far Eastern spiritual medicine and countless other natural practices from around the globe, I sorta make a combined practice for myself. If I find something that works, I use it. Wiccan, Shinto, Bhuddist, Christian, Norse, it's all the same to me.

AisilnnTheoron


Raven Blackstar

Wheezing Lunatic

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:55 pm


I was Witness of Jehovah from 9 - 17 years, but I must admit I never had one talk about the use of herbs or mentioning in the Bible neither =/

I agree that plants and trees have been created and most probably will have more of use than simple decoration. The human was ment to populate the earth and shape it like the Garden of Eden (or how it is called in English ^^; ), so they should have their purpose after all.
Like AisilnnTheoron mentioned, I can only remember the olive is being mentioned a lot, but not as a real medicinal use. So, can't really tell a lot about herbs and the Bible.

Now I'm a wandering mage/guide (opposite of Witness of Jehovah as they don't accept magic or the use of it in any form). As mage, I should be able to tell more about herbs, but I'm still learning a lot at a time... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:15 pm


Raven Blackstar
I was Witness of Jehovah from 9 - 17 years, but I must admit I never had one talk about the use of herbs or mentioning in the Bible neither =/

I agree that plants and trees have been created and most probably will have more of use than simple decoration. The human was ment to populate the earth and shape it like the Garden of Eden (or how it is called in English ^^; ), so they should have their purpose after all.
Like AisilnnTheoron mentioned, I can only remember the olive is being mentioned a lot, but not as a real medicinal use. So, can't really tell a lot about herbs and the Bible.

Now I'm a wandering mage/guide (opposite of Witness of Jehovah as they don't accept magic or the use of it in any form). As mage, I should be able to tell more about herbs, but I'm still learning a lot at a time... sweatdrop
Hey, this is the place to learn. XD

My sister (who's Wiccan) calls me a Christian Kitchen Witch, because I pray over my remedies and even the food I serve, and I use my knowledge for practical, grass-roots uses. I don't get into rituals and chants, special ceremonies or anything of the like- although I do have a few of my own, personal ones, they're not for a religious reasion so much as for -me-.

All my stuff is done in simple, down to earth practicality- a little bit of lemon in some honey with a prayer is how I fix sore throats, and a generous cup of chamomile tea and a Psalm is my fix for sleeplessness.

Kyoki Marie
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AisilnnTheoron

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:57 pm


Kyoki Marie
Raven Blackstar
I was Witness of Jehovah from 9 - 17 years, but I must admit I never had one talk about the use of herbs or mentioning in the Bible neither =/

I agree that plants and trees have been created and most probably will have more of use than simple decoration. The human was ment to populate the earth and shape it like the Garden of Eden (or how it is called in English ^^; ), so they should have their purpose after all.
Like AisilnnTheoron mentioned, I can only remember the olive is being mentioned a lot, but not as a real medicinal use. So, can't really tell a lot about herbs and the Bible.

Now I'm a wandering mage/guide (opposite of Witness of Jehovah as they don't accept magic or the use of it in any form). As mage, I should be able to tell more about herbs, but I'm still learning a lot at a time... sweatdrop
Hey, this is the place to learn. XD

My sister (who's Wiccan) calls me a Christian Kitchen Witch, because I pray over my remedies and even the food I serve, and I use my knowledge for practical, grass-roots uses. I don't get into rituals and chants, special ceremonies or anything of the like- although I do have a few of my own, personal ones, they're not for a religious reasion so much as for -me-.

All my stuff is done in simple, down to earth practicality- a little bit of lemon in some honey with a prayer is how I fix sore throats, and a generous cup of chamomile tea and a Psalm is my fix for sleeplessness.
Nice! I've heard of that before. Makes sense, seeing as in spellwork you use magic incantations. Prayers aren't really a whole lot different if you think about it.
Incantations use words to attach feeling and power to an object or ceremony(like consecrations, protection spells and the like). Prayers do the same thing, only in a Christian way. They attach a feeling of love for God and his power to a process (like you're making remedies or a Christian communion or baptism) or objects (like praying for an herbal remedy to follow a specific effect, or blessing of Saint talismans) as well.
I don't know why people don't usually see these things. It makes sense to me.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:13 pm


Well, it's very similar. ^_^ I think it's because people are really afraid of betraying their god or goddess or faith, you know? And it's different because you invoke difference sources of power- for instance, my sister invokes the Goddess, where I invoke the Christian God. So each faith takes their power from a different source. I believe in the One God, so my opinion on where the other powers come from is >> something I won't discuss, but then she believes I'm wrong, so it all works out. XD

I know, though, a lot of Christians are afraid to admit that a spell to invoke the power of Bastet (or nearly any other diety) and a prayer to invoke the power of God are very similar in wording... >> It doesn't bug me, though. I figure, I'm praying to my God, and if you want to, that's awesome. If you don't, that's your business.

Oh, I found a mention of herbs for healing in the Bible- sort of. >> It's in the Apocrypha, which is still up for debate as to whether it's canon or not, but I like the quote.

"The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; he that is wise will not abhor them."
~Ecclesiasticus 34:4

Kyoki Marie
Captain


Raven Blackstar

Wheezing Lunatic

PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:29 am


Hm. What you call 'God' I simply call the 'Source' or the 'Light'. I don't give it a more personalised name (like God, Jahweh or Jehovah, ...) anymore since I stopped being Witness. It's more a personal reason probably. I even tended to deny its existance once I stepped away, but reading Eliphas Levi and working with angels brought me practically back to believe in the Light.

Then again, I have like more than one diety (the Light, the Moon Goddess, the Sun God) depending more what kind of magic I use. But to me, they're mainly all the same. A source of strength, hope, love, ... everyone carries that source in him/herself, so I consider all dieties more to be a representation of our own inner source.

And about worhsipping or betraying their diety... I think that people are just a little to afraid of that. To focussed on following written words instead of thinking a little about it. I can understand that every religion has its 'laws' (how you call those in english? sweatdrop ) to be followed, but I still think that it all has to come from the heart. I'm even not a Christian, and I think I follow the Light probably more than many 'believers' say they do, without even using the Bible or following rules.

Nice saying of the bible ^^ I never thought there would be one though. Well, after three years I guess I forget some biblic texts xp
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:59 pm


*nods* And yes, laws would be the correct word. ^_^ What's your native language?

I haven't read my bible in it's entirety, so there very well could be more... I just haven't found them. XD

Kyoki Marie
Captain


AisilnnTheoron

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:17 am


Methinks that from the spanish in his sig, Raven's native tongue would be espanol, si Raven?
((Me habla un piquido espanol, BTW. Kinda funny seeing as I took French in High School. xd ))

I guess I call God "God" out of habit more than anything. I do like use his original Hebrew name, though, seeing as it's one of the oldest and therefore the purest in my mind. That name would be the unpronouncable YHWH, not Iehova. ((Iehova was actually Christ's name in the Old Testament.))

But personally, I think of God as not a single person, but a partnership of the Holy Father and the Holy Mother who gave birth to our souls. I figure, in the Bible it states that God created man in his own image, both male and female. So, seeing as I believe what he said there, I figure that there's no way he can be a formless lump of spirit that exists omnipresently, but that he must have some form of purified body. And if that's true, he must be either a hermaphrodite, able to change gender at will, or that there are two definite beings, male and female. Mother and father working together for the good of all their children, making "GOD" a partnership. The last seems like the most reasonable and straightforward theory, so that's the one that I go with.

Some religions have so much evidence toward a solitary/male diety, others have so much evidence toward a female/mother diety, others have a pantheon of dieties, ranging in ablities and personalities. So, I conclude that all must at least partially contain truth, otherwise God wouldn't allow it to exist. This gives me my theory that God is a married couple, some of their more rebellious children have left their influence on mankind as angels/demi-gods/pantheons of gods/demons/etc. either working in the name of their parents or against them, while their other children have decided to live life as mortals/humans trying to prove themselves "worthy" to be like their father and mother, and inheret all the treasures of ultimate wisdom and knowledge that come from being purified beings and existing for billions upon billions of endless eons.

This, in the end, leads me to believe that all I have to do, is do my very best. To give myself 100 percent in all I do, think and say. Be honest to my flawed nature and the way my divine parents made me. To be open to opportunities to better myself, others and the world around me. To do that, I can use whatever means have been left for me to find. Weather it be religons, herbalism, spellcraft, tarot devination, massage therapy, psychological therapy, listening, gardening, cooking or just being there for someone who needs me. I do whatever I can to do the best I can. Then, when I get a chance to meet God, I can say that I did my very best. Who can ask me for more than that?

Whoah. . . talk about a long rant. . . I do that sometimes. I hope that no one is offended by anything that I said. Spiritual matters are a very tender subject, and I just shared. I don't preach or defame other beliefs, I just state what I believe for others to know me better. No shoving intended. . .
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:14 am


Following my sig, you would be close. The sentence is Spanish indeed, but only what I learned from my mate ^^ my native language is dutch and french. I'm Belgian and lucky to be raised by a french-speaking father and dutch-speaking mother. Learned english at school and on gaia. Now I learn spanish from my soulmate/lover biggrin yay! more languages!

The theory about partnership seems a very logic one indeed. never looked that way before, even if I could have done it by knowing that everyone has energy of both gender and that in rituals it is best to have both energies too.

Recently reading a book about angels, there was mentioned that every religion has one thing in common: they all have a God(dess) and all of the prophets were angels or were inspired by angels. So in a way, every seperate religion is one and the same. Still, every religion seems to be interpreted on a different way and work on a different way...

mmhmm, same here smile I learn as much as possible from my own experience and other's oppinions. I don't clame one as truely correct religion, neither do I break others. I tend to have the bad habit though to try others to see that certain parts in their religion are incorrect, or better said, wrongly understood due to wrong interpretation. sweatdrop But otherwise, I dont' mind talking about religion. I'm open for mine, everyone may know I use magic. Everyone may ask about me, and everyone may tell me about their religion. In all of them, there is truth.
... And I love texted rants, because I love reading :p

Raven Blackstar

Wheezing Lunatic


Kyoki Marie
Captain

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:14 pm


Hm. See, I always figured that when God made us in His image, it didn't mean our physical bodies. *shrugs* I mean, if that were the case, wouldn't we all be nearly identical? I figured it meant our spirits- that we were made to be able to be loving, caring, individual people who have free will, rather than like the animals who obey instinct and react- we are the "thinking animal", although I hate the term... after all, my dog is smarter than some people I know. XD

But I always felt that God created me to be like Him in my ability to choose right and wrong. I've no clue if He's got a body or not... I never thought about it. XD

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