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 Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:18 pm
WITH OUT FLAMING
Please discuss your veiws, your beliefs, your thoughts on this topic.
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:31 pm
i believe that if homosexual couples want to get married that's fine....but not in a catholic church.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:11 am
im for it, i have friends who are homosexual and they're the nicest people i know. Its not fair in my opinion for them to be treated and different from anyone else because of it
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:24 pm
Love is love no matter what anyone says.
They have the right to get married anywhere they want to,
Or else we'd be lieing when we say this is a free country.
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Aesthetically Saru Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:54 pm
Mirianu Love is love no matter what anyone says.
They have the right to get married anywhere they want to,
Or else we'd be lieing when we say this is a free country. that is true.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:43 am
If its what they want, its what they want and no one should be able to tell them no.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:45 am
If it's heavy, solid and looks like a rock... I recon its fine. The government is just effd in the head. Sorry but that is my oppinion. I believe that if two people love eachother they should be aloud to marry. It's probably gonnah sink like the Titanic.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:12 am
I don't agree with gay marriage, I have gay friends, but I don't agree with it. Especially those who wished to be married in a church, which is basically in my opinion an insult to god. If they want to be joined by the government and have the official title of being married, ok, but I won't agree that they have the right to go into a church and claim to be married by the lord.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:33 pm
if they want it to be joined some how that is fine, they can do what they want.. I think there should be a different name though.. Marriage is defined as man and woman.. they cant change the definition now.. plus if there has been a homosexual marriage I think there should be testing if ever they were to join together with an oposite sex.. to prevent HIV and what not
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:31 am
My favorite topic...
Inside the United States there is no freedom of religion for there is no seperation between church and state.
If the church wishes to make a rule regarding same sex marraige then it is fine. However as far as the nation has ever recognized marriage it is the "union of two people" - there is no gender limitation and nothing stating they even have to live under the same roof.
If there is any non-religious reason why marraige of the same sex should not be allowed then let's hear it, until then any law prohibiting such a union would be forcing religious beliefs upon an individaual violating the very constitution of the United States.
In short there are only 2 solutions to this problem.
A. Maraige is by no means religious and laws regarding such should not be influenced in any way by Religion.
B. Mariage is religious and the nation should take no part in it whatsoever. Meaning no longer will justices of the Peace be allowed to marry individuals. No longer will Tax breaks be given to married couples. No longer will there be a lack of seperation between church and state.
All men (and women) are created equal, and the above two solutions are the only possible situations in which the government will truly be treating them so.
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:09 am
Any two people who love eachother should be able to get married.
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:51 am
The_Transmogrified My favorite topic...
Inside the United States there is no freedom of religion for there is no seperation between church and state.
If the church wishes to make a rule regarding same sex marraige then it is fine. However as far as the nation has ever recognized marriage it is the "union of two people" - there is no gender limitation and nothing stating they even have to live under the same roof.
If there is any non-religious reason why marraige of the same sex should not be allowed then let's hear it, until then any law prohibiting such a union would be forcing religious beliefs upon an individaual violating the very constitution of the United States.
In short there are only 2 solutions to this problem.
A. Maraige is by no means religious and laws regarding such should not be influenced in any way by Religion.
B. Mariage is religious and the nation should take no part in it whatsoever. Meaning no longer will justices of the Peace be allowed to marry individuals. No longer will Tax breaks be given to married couples. No longer will there be a lack of seperation between church and state.
All men (and women) are created equal, and the above two solutions are the only possible situations in which the government will truly be treating them so. Ah, a smart post, Trans. Let me reply with a religious-but-not-that-religous answer, because I'm really not that religous. 0.o; You're right, the state really has no right when it comes to making decisions like these, if you put it in that way. Marriage is indeed, a very religious thing, and I don't think certain people realize it, or there wouldn't be any gay people wanting to get married in the first place. The certain people I'm talking about are people without religion, or people that do not take their religion seriously. If they did realize how religious marriage is, then they'd think something along the lines of "Why bother getting married? If we don't believe in all that, or don't really care about all that, what's the point?" It is, after all, called the "Sacrament of Marriage" in the church. (the Catholic one anyway) Yes, gay marriage should depend on each church, and not the state, in my opinion. If state and church were really seperated, the state would have no part in this. But, the state is not seperated from the church, entirely, as this is a country that can be obsessed with their religious values. As for me, myself, I'm agree completely with Bigblackwhip 101 completely. They stated what I wanted to state, pretty much word by word.
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:34 am
1024yyim The_Transmogrified My favorite topic...
Inside the United States there is no freedom of religion for there is no seperation between church and state.
If the church wishes to make a rule regarding same sex marraige then it is fine. However as far as the nation has ever recognized marriage it is the "union of two people" - there is no gender limitation and nothing stating they even have to live under the same roof.
If there is any non-religious reason why marraige of the same sex should not be allowed then let's hear it, until then any law prohibiting such a union would be forcing religious beliefs upon an individaual violating the very constitution of the United States.
In short there are only 2 solutions to this problem.
A. Maraige is by no means religious and laws regarding such should not be influenced in any way by Religion.
B. Mariage is religious and the nation should take no part in it whatsoever. Meaning no longer will justices of the Peace be allowed to marry individuals. No longer will Tax breaks be given to married couples. No longer will there be a lack of seperation between church and state.
All men (and women) are created equal, and the above two solutions are the only possible situations in which the government will truly be treating them so. Ah, a smart post, Trans. Let me reply with a religious-but-not-that-religous answer, because I'm really not that religous. 0.o; You're right, the state really has no right when it comes to making decisions like these, if you put it in that way. Marriage is indeed, a very religious thing, and I don't think certain people realize it, or there wouldn't be any gay people wanting to get married in the first place. The certain people I'm talking about are people without religion, or people that do not take their religion seriously. If they did realize how religious marriage is, then they'd think something along the lines of "Why bother getting married? If we don't believe in all that, or don't really care about all that, what's the point?" It is, after all, called the "Sacrament of Marriage" in the church. (the Catholic one anyway) Yes, gay marriage should depend on each church, and not the state, in my opinion. If state and church were really seperated, the state would have no part in this. But, the state is not seperated from the church, entirely, as this is a country that can be obsessed with their religious values. As for me, myself, I'm agree completely with Bigblackwhip 101 completely. They stated what I wanted to state, pretty much word by word.
As far as churches have the right to marry whomever fits their restrictions - Justices of the Peace should be allowed to marry those fitting the states' requirements... which would make a law against gay or lesbian marraige on a whole illegal by nature.
Laws shouldn't exist on this particular topic... just guidelines for those who work for the government. Religious institutions enofrcing what they please in their jurisdiction.
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:40 pm
Whatever feels right/good do it!
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:45 pm
1024yyim The_Transmogrified My favorite topic...
Inside the United States there is no freedom of religion for there is no seperation between church and state.
If the church wishes to make a rule regarding same sex marraige then it is fine. However as far as the nation has ever recognized marriage it is the "union of two people" - there is no gender limitation and nothing stating they even have to live under the same roof.
If there is any non-religious reason why marraige of the same sex should not be allowed then let's hear it, until then any law prohibiting such a union would be forcing religious beliefs upon an individaual violating the very constitution of the United States.
In short there are only 2 solutions to this problem.
A. Maraige is by no means religious and laws regarding such should not be influenced in any way by Religion.
B. Mariage is religious and the nation should take no part in it whatsoever. Meaning no longer will justices of the Peace be allowed to marry individuals. No longer will Tax breaks be given to married couples. No longer will there be a lack of seperation between church and state.
All men (and women) are created equal, and the above two solutions are the only possible situations in which the government will truly be treating them so. Ah, a smart post, Trans. Let me reply with a religious-but-not-that-religous answer, because I'm really not that religous. 0.o; You're right, the state really has no right when it comes to making decisions like these, if you put it in that way. Marriage is indeed, a very religious thing, and I don't think certain people realize it, or there wouldn't be any gay people wanting to get married in the first place. The certain people I'm talking about are people without religion, or people that do not take their religion seriously. If they did realize how religious marriage is, then they'd think something along the lines of "Why bother getting married? If we don't believe in all that, or don't really care about all that, what's the point?" It is, after all, called the "Sacrament of Marriage" in the church. (the Catholic one anyway) Yes, gay marriage should depend on each church, and not the state, in my opinion. If state and church were really seperated, the state would have no part in this. But, the state is not seperated from the church, entirely, as this is a country that can be obsessed with their religious values. As for me, myself, I'm agree completely with Bigblackwhip 101 completely. They stated what I wanted to state, pretty much word by word. =^.^= Thanks, since I last posted in this debate I spoke to a bunch of gay friends and asked them why they think gay marriage should or should not be allowed. From what I gathered this is why THEY THINK they should be allowed to marry someone of the same sex 1.To collectivley store money and take on a tax of a married couple not two individuals paying two taxes 2.To have the title of being "married" 3.To prove they can 4.To be like Elton John rolleyes These I don't think are very good reasons, but I heard lot's of reasons why IT SHOULDN'T be allowed some of those being:: 1.It violates the constitution 2.It encourages the transmittion of HIV and AIDS 3.According to some Doctors "Homosexuality" Is classified as a "disease withouth a treatment" Much like "aids and HIV" why should the mentally sick be rewarded? 4.It lowers American values and will cause other countries to look down on us. 5.They just want this to have attention and feel special I still disagree with Gay Marriage but it is just my opinion.
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