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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:09 pm


Hi ^___^""
I'm especially interested in Judaic Mythology, ever since I got a job to work in a synagogue. I am not Jewish myself. I'm aware of the fact that I don't know much about it, Thor pointed this out in a very short but very cool debate.
I'd like to post some interesting stories here, discuss them and compare them with other stories or myths and cultures.
(If you find a good story then please copy and paste it in a quote bubble. It looks nicer and is easier for my eyes than most website fonts and backgrounds.)
spank you, Mazikeen
PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:19 pm


Nicholas Covino @ pantheon.org
The ancient Hebrews mentioned little winged, elf-like beings called Mazikeen. These tiny creatures could change themselves into whatever shape they desired.

Legend says that a wicked man once heard a thundering knock at his door, but when he opened his door, he saw nothing but an a** grazing under a tree. Terrified, he mounted the a** and rode it away as fast as he could. As the man rode, the a** grew taller and taller until it was as tall as the highest tower in the town. And that was where the a** left the man, perched like a weathercock on the steeple. Obiviously, said the townspeople as the a** galloped away, the beast was a Mazikeen.
This is my favorite myth from the Jews. I can't find a better or at least more described story of these creatures (I won't call them fairies or they'll come after me) than this one.

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IT has long been an established article of belief among the Jews that there is a species of beings which they call Shedeem, Shehireem, or Mazikeen. These beings exactly correspond to the Arabian Jinn; and the Jews hold that it is by means of them that all acts of magic and enchantment are performed.
The Talmud says that the Shedeem were the offspring of Adam. After he had eaten of the Tree of life, Adam was excommunicated for one hundred and thirty years. "In all those years," saith Rabbi Jeremiah Ben E'liezar, "during which Adam was under excommunication, he begat spirits, demons, and spectres of the night, as it is written, 'Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begat children in his likeness and in his image,' which teaches, that till that time he bad not begotten them in his own likeness." In Berasbith Rabba, R. Simon says, "During all the one hundred and thirty years that Adam was separate from Eve, male spirits lay with her, and she bare by them, and female spirits lay with Adam, and bare by him."
These Shedeem or Mazikeen are held to resemble the angels in three things. They can see and not be seen; they have wings and can fly; they know the future. In three respects they resemble mankind: they eat and drink; they marry and have children; they are subject to death. it may be added, they have the power of assuming any form they please; and so the agreement between them and the Jinn of the Arabs is complete.
Here is the first google-d text I could find in where a comparison is made with creatures from other cultures.

geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4611/fairyM.html
Land of Origin: Middle East.
Other Origins: Possibly India.
Other Names: This may be the origin of the Germanic word Mannikin, which means "little man," and is used in the Middle East to describe a host of forever-partying faery life.
Element: Air.
Appearance and Temperament:
Mazikeen are winged faeries who cannot fly. They are often mistaken for angels, but they are faeries whos sole purpose is to steal food and drink for their endless revelries.
Time Most Active: All year.
Lore: Mazikeens do not need sleep and can party all the time.
Where to Find Them: Unknown.
How to Contact: Unknown.
Magickal and Ritual Help: None. They are much to self-absorbed to aid humans.
Here is an explanation as to where the word might come from and a little more information on the creatures.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:22 pm


Another interesting legend is the one about Tzaddikim (Hidden Just Men).
I'll post more on them very soon.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:36 pm


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Nicholas Covino @ pantheon.org
The ancient Hebrews mentioned little winged, elf-like beings called Mazikeen. These tiny creatures could change themselves into whatever shape they desired.

Legend says that a wicked man once heard a thundering knock at his door, but when he opened his door, he saw nothing but an a** grazing under a tree. Terrified, he mounted the a** and rode it away as fast as he could. As the man rode, the a** grew taller and taller until it was as tall as the highest tower in the town. And that was where the a** left the man, perched like a weathercock on the steeple. Obiviously, said the townspeople as the a** galloped away, the beast was a Mazikeen.
This is my favorite myth from the Jews. I can't find a better or at least more described story of these creatures (I won't call them fairies or they'll come after me) than this one.

sacred-texts.com
IT has long been an established article of belief among the Jews that there is a species of beings which they call Shedeem, Shehireem, or Mazikeen. These beings exactly correspond to the Arabian Jinn; and the Jews hold that it is by means of them that all acts of magic and enchantment are performed.
The Talmud says that the Shedeem were the offspring of Adam. After he had eaten of the Tree of life, Adam was excommunicated for one hundred and thirty years. "In all those years," saith Rabbi Jeremiah Ben E'liezar, "during which Adam was under excommunication, he begat spirits, demons, and spectres of the night, as it is written, 'Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begat children in his likeness and in his image,' which teaches, that till that time he bad not begotten them in his own likeness." In Berasbith Rabba, R. Simon says, "During all the one hundred and thirty years that Adam was separate from Eve, male spirits lay with her, and she bare by them, and female spirits lay with Adam, and bare by him."
These Shedeem or Mazikeen are held to resemble the angels in three things. They can see and not be seen; they have wings and can fly; they know the future. In three respects they resemble mankind: they eat and drink; they marry and have children; they are subject to death. it may be added, they have the power of assuming any form they please; and so the agreement between them and the Jinn of the Arabs is complete.
Here is the first google-d text I could find in where a comparison is made with creatures from other cultures.

geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4611/fairyM.html
Land of Origin: Middle East.
Other Origins: Possibly India.
Other Names: This may be the origin of the Germanic word Mannikin, which means "little man," and is used in the Middle East to describe a host of forever-partying faery life.
Element: Air.
Appearance and Temperament:
Mazikeen are winged faeries who cannot fly. They are often mistaken for angels, but they are faeries whos sole purpose is to steal food and drink for their endless revelries.
Time Most Active: All year.
Lore: Mazikeens do not need sleep and can party all the time.
Where to Find Them: Unknown.
How to Contact: Unknown.
Magickal and Ritual Help: None. They are much to self-absorbed to aid humans.
Here is an explanation as to where the word might come from and a little more information on the creatures.


Hey hun? Your sources are in disagreement... one saying they have wings like angels and CAN fly, the other say they are winged faeries who CANNOT fly....

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:33 pm


It's very uncommon for mythological sources to all agree. Most myths have 2 or 3 different portrayals as well as the characters within them.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:25 pm


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It's very uncommon for mythological sources to all agree. Most myths have 2 or 3 different portrayals as well as the characters within them.

i'm just trying to direct her attentions to narrowing her own view on "herself" rather than just quote sources.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:24 am


Why? Why?
I don't have the answers on what is true and what isn't.
Nothing is true for all we know.
Therefor I want to quote anyone who has an opinion on matters concerning Judaic Mythology. Just so everyone can read everything there is to know on the subjects mentioned.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:40 pm


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Why? Why?
I don't have the answers on what is true and what isn't.
Nothing is true for all we know.
Therefor I want to quote anyone who has an opinion on matters concerning Judaic Mythology. Just so everyone can read everything there is to know on the subjects mentioned.

I'm not trying to restrain your ability to let it be known what others see the myth as. It's more the purpose to help you define it on your own. THAT is belief in a myth.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:05 pm


I would love to learn many of the different myths but of my religion we have many myths as well they are all pretty neat tho the different myths I mean so yeah. That’s my input on this subject lol. Sad I know.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:35 am


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I would love to learn many of the different myths but of my religion we have many myths as well they are all pretty neat tho the different myths I mean so yeah. That’s my input on this subject lol. Sad I know.
dude. what's your religion?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:39 am


In my opinion Mazikeen can't fly. I think that gives them such a haunted quality. (haunted is used for lack of better word). I mean it's like having eyes, but not being able to see. Or feeling something but not being able to express yourself.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:47 am


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Another interesting legend is the one about Tzaddikim (Hidden Just Men).
I'll post more on them very soon.

Here we go:

Ilil Arbel, Ph.D. @pantheon.org
The Lamed Vav are two letters in the Hebrew alphabet. Numerically, they represent 36. Legends tell that in this world, there always live thirty-six men who are also called Tzadikim Nistarim, or the Hidden Just Men. They are usually poor, unknown, obscure, and no one guesses that they are the ones who bear all the sorrows and sins of the world. It is for their sake that God does not destroy the world even when sin overwhelms mankind.

When one of the Lamed Vav dies, another is immediately chosen to take his place. Often, the Tzadik Nistar does not even know he is chosen for the task. As long as the Lamed Vav continue to serve humanity and God in this fashion, the world will go on. But if at some point God will not be able to find someone just and good enough to replace a dying Tzadik, the world will end immediately.


wikipedia
This widely-held belief, this most unusual Jewish concept is based on a Talmudic statement to the effect that in every generation 36 righteous "greet the Shechinah," the Divine Presence.
...
Mystical Hasidic Judaism as well as other segments of Judaism know that there is the Jewish tradition of 36 righteous men whose role in life is to justify the purpose of mankind in the eyes of God; their identity is unknown to each other; if one of them comes to a realization of his true purpose then he may die and his role is immediately assumed by another person:

"The Lamed-Vav Tzaddikim are also called the Nistarim (concealed ones). In our folk tales, they emerge from their self-imposed concealment and, by the mystic powers, which they possess, they succeed in averting the threatened disasters of a people persecuted by the enemies that surround them. They return to their anonymity as soon as their task is accomplished, 'concealing' themselves once again in a Jewish community wherein they are relatively unknown. The lamed-vavniks, scattered as they are throughout the Diaspora, have no acquaintance with one another. On very rare occasions, one of them is 'discovered' by accident, in which case the secret of their identity must not be disclosed. The lamed-vavniks do not themselves know that they are one of the 36. In fact, tradition has it that should a person claim to be one of the 36, that is proof positive that he is certainly not one. Since the 36 are each exemplars of anavah, humility, having such a virtue would preclude against one’s self-proclamation of being among the special righteous. The 36 are simply too humble to believe that they are one of the 36."

neveh.org/winston/wonder36/36-08.html
Why Thirty-Six ?
By now it should be clear that there is a deep, philosophical undercurrent that flows through history - Jewish history specifically and world history in general. The events of daily life may appear exceedingly mundane, like the waters of the sea that calmly and continuously wash upon the shore day after day. However, just as the surface waters belie a whole world that exists hidden below, so does daily life conceal the wonderful world of thirty-six.
God created the world for the sake of man, so that he could strive and have the opportunity to become God-like to the best of his ability. And in doing so, he can merit eternal life in the eternal world, the World-to-Come. However, this reward is only given at the end of life for those who successfully endure the process.

The "process" is developing an intellectual awareness and appreciation of moral virtues, and then guiding one’s life according to them. This might be simple enough to accomplish when life is "smooth sailing." But usually it is not - it is often complex and extremely distracting, often unbalanced and sometimes threatening. Nevertheless, behind it all is the hand of God, orchestrating the events throughout the millennia to bring history to a grand finale when the purpose of creation will reach fruition.

The only question a person need ask is, "What role do I play in history?" The answer is: it depends. It depends upon one’s personal potential. The answer also evolves as long as a person lives, grows and changes. And often the impact of a person is not known until long after the person has left this world.

To successfully travel the road to personal greatness one needs self-honesty, intellectual integrity and a love of ideas. These tools encourage a person to not take life for granted, to avoid making superficial assumptions about a world that is far from superficial. It is this attitude towards life that fosters important traits such as fear of God, love of one’s fellow man and self-confidence.

The guidebook for life’s journey is the Torah. Within it are the axioms of truth upon which the world was founded. But they are truths that are revealed only according to the seriousness of the one who comes to learn them. They are truths that are revealed only to those who develop intellectually and spiritually.

When one travels this road and reflects the light of Torah, he shines with the Hidden Light of creation, as was the case with Moshe:

Moshe came down the mountain with the two tablets of testimony in Moshe’s hands; but Moshe did not know that the skin of his face beamed while he spoke to Him [God]. Aharon and all of the children of Israel saw Moshe, and behold, the skin of his face beamed. They were afraid to approach him ... Shemos 34:29
More importantly, a person develops a vision of reality that allows him to see beyond the present moment and beyond the surface of what stands before him. It is only with such a vision that one can discover his hidden potential, and the hidden opportunity of the moment in order to grasp it, and in doing so, grasp eternity. This is the message of thirty-six. This is the brilliance of the special light of creation. But why thirty-six?

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The number thirty-six has fascinating properties. For example, it is a number that when multiplied by any other number always produces a quotient whose mispar katan is equal to nine, the mispar katan of truth:
Emes = 1 + 40 + 400
= 441; 4 + 4 + 1
= 9

For example: 36 x 1 = 36
3 + 6 = 9

36 x 2 = 72
7 + 2 = 9

36 x 3 = 108
1 + 0 + 8 = 9

36 x 25 = 900
9 + 0 + 0 = 9

And so on.
One would expect the number that symbolizes the truth to be connected to the concept of truth on some level. However, this still does not indicate why the light of creation shone for thirty-six hours, as opposed to only nine hours. (The pesuchos and stumos in the Torah are Divinely established breaks in the text, which, according the Ba’al HaTurim were given to Moshe as time to intellectually digest what he had been taught. According to Halacha, a valid pesuchah or stumah must have a space of at least nine letters.)
There is a correlation between the Hidden Light of creation and Chanukah, a holiday which had to be eight days long because of what the number eight represents (i.e., the supernatural). This correlation does preclude the number nine.

What logical sequence of lighting the candles could result in a total of nine candles over eight days? Looking beyond the number a clue to the significance of thirty-six may be in the way it is written out in Hebrew: uk, especially since each letter represents many concepts.

For example, the letter lamed is a towering letter that represents the King of Kings, God Himself. Within the Aleph-Bais it is flanked by the letter chof and the letter mem, which with the lamed, spell the world melech, or king. (Osios R’ Akiva) Furthermore, the letter lamed is a composite of two letters: chof and vav, whose numerical values are 20 and 6 respectively, the total of which is 26, the numerical value of the Tetragrammaton Name. (Ba’al HaTurim; this is the name of God that is not pronounced as it is spelled, because it is so holy. It is also the name equal to the gematria kollel of the number 25.)

When the letter lamed is spelled out as a word, it forms the word that means both teaching and learning. And because it is the twelfth letter of the twenty-two letter Aleph-Bais, it is considered to be the center and the "heart" of the Aleph-Bais; It is an acronym for laiv meivin da’as - a heart that understands wisdom. (Osios R’ Akiva)

For these reasons and many others, the letter lamed symbolizes learning and teaching (i.e., lilmod and lelamed), and purpose. Chanukah, which means "dedication" and which is the root of the word chinuch, which means "education," represents these ideas.

The concepts represented by the letter vav are just as profound. It is the sixth letter in sequence, which represents physical completion. The physical world was completed in six days, and a self-contained object has six dimensions. (Maharal)

The midrash states that Ya’akov "seized" the letter vav from Eliyahu’s name as a guarantee that the prophet would eventually herald the redemption of the future Jewish people. (Usually Ya’akov is spelled without a vav and Eliyahu is written with a vav. However, there are five instances when Ya’akov is written with a vav and Eliyah without the vav. The midrash states that the letter vav was transferred from Eliyahu’s name to Ya’akov’s as a guarantee for redemption.) Thus vav is also a symbol of redemption.

In the Torah, a letter vav added to a word written in future tense becomes past tense, symbolizing the vav’s ability to transcend time. For this reason the vav is also a symbol of eternity. This is why the courtyard of the Mishkan was surrounded by curtains suspended from hooks, which in Hebrew are vavim. This alluded to the eternal quality of all that occurred within the Tabernacle.

Also within Torah, the addition of a vav or the lack of one that might have been there often indicates a hidden meaning. For example, the Torah states:

God said, ‘Let there be lights (m’o’rs) in the firmament of heaven to divide between the day and the night, and they will be signs for the appointed times, the days and the years. And there were lights (m’oo’rs) in the firmament of the heaven ...’ Bereishis 1:14, 15
Traditionally, the missing vav in the first reference to the lights is taken to mean that the original light of creation was diminished, reserved for the righteous in a later generation. (See Rashi on 1:14 and 1:4.)
As well, the letter vav stands for the sixth sefirah, a kabbalistic metaphor for a specific manifestation of a higher spiritual reality. The sixth sefirah is called yesod, which means "foundation," referring to the trait of tzadikim, of which there are thirty-six hidden in each generation. It is they who spiritually form the foundation of the world.

Such homiletic interpretations are countless and yield deep insight into our world. However, perhaps one of the most profound aspects of Lo and the key to unlocking the mystery of thirty-six, is the simple fact that it spells the word to him.


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There is another approach to the meaning of Lo.
The evil son, what does he say? ‘What is the service to you?’ (Shemos 12:26). To you, and not to him (Lo) , and because he excludes himself from the rest, he is a denier of Torah ... Hagadah Shel Pesach
Traditionally, these words of the Hagadah are understood to mean: to you - you who faithfully sacrifice the Pesach offering - and, not to him - not to the evil son. However, according to the Brisker Rav’s understanding of the evil son’s question, "to him" might mean God Himself.
According to tradition, the Jewish people were mired in the idol worship of Egyptian society. In order to merit redemption, they had to make a physical and psychological break from the Egyptian way of life. For this reason, the midrash explains, the Jews were commanded to take a sheep, the Egyptian god, and parade it through the streets with the expressed purpose of slaughtering it to God.

But, the evil son asks: who worships sheep today? What use is there in continuing the same service of sacrificing the Pesach offering, other than to merely commemorate what once occurred? For sentimental reasons, this may appeal to you, but don’t try to tell me that it has any value to Him!

The Hagadah’s answer to the evil son: break his teeth.

Why deal with the evil son so harshly, and what does the expression break his teeth mean? The answer to this question requires a few words.

From the very first moment man was created, he has had to use his intellect to try to understand the end of Divine reason, to interpret the will of God. The result has been horrific, resulting in mortality for mankind and unforgivable genocide throughout the millennia.

In the end, the question has to be asked: whose will was fulfilled? When a person says he was doing his will, to whom does "his" refer? His will, that is, to the will of God, or his will, that is, to his own will? With the yetzer hara firmly embedded in our hearts, it is easy to confuse one with the other.

The mishnah states a solution to the dilemma:

Make His will like your will, so that He will make your will as His will. Pirke Avos 2:4
A person has to make it his only desire to fulfill the will of God. He has to avoid the pitfalls of rationalization by using his tremendous power of intellect only up until the will of God and not beyond it. This was the threshold the "evil son" crossed when he used his intellect to rationalize the will of God.
For this reason, the Hagadah says, we break the evil son’s teeth, so-to-speak. The word shein (teeth) numerically is equal to 350, (Which, in mispar katan is eight.) which is also the gematria of the word seichel, which means intellect. It is as if the response to the evil son is: abuse your intellect, lose your intellect - a true principle in Torah.

And just as it is possible to confuse our will for the will of God, it is also possible to mistake to whom the world belongs. Though the Torah addresses this issue in more than one place, it does so quite succinctly in one specific place.

God spoke to Moshe saying, ‘Tell the children of Israel to take for Me an elevated-offering ...’ Shemos 25:1
(It often happens that a chapter central to a discussion that ties back to Chanukah is number related to Chanukah. For example, the chapter number here is twenty-five. Even though chapter numbers were assigned by non-Jews for easy reference for debating Jews, it is also true that there is no such thing as a coincidence. It is not difficult to believe that God could have set up the Torah in such a way that future generations wishing to number the Torah in a logical way would yield chapter numbers that could have deeper meaning to future generations of Jews. At the very least, it is fascinating.)

Take for Me ... For Me, for My sake. - Rashi

After all, the whole world is His. - Sifsei Chachamim

What the Sifsei Chachamim is addressing is why Rashi felt compelled to explain what seems to be obvious. If God requested an offering to be brought to build His sanctuary, would not one reason that it is being brought for His sake?
What bothered Rashi was a simple paradox: how does one give a gift to someone who already owns the gift? The answer is, they cannot. Therefore, says Rashi, the gift God requested was not the physical object itself, but the way in which the gift was to be given - with the full understanding that the entire world belongs to God ... it belongs Lo.

When man is confused, either thinking that he is fulfilling the will of God when he is not or thinking that he owns property that he does not, he crosses into the realm of transgression. This is perhaps the meaning of the following lesson.

Yehoshua led the Jewish people into the land of Canaan, (Yehoshua 3:1) and the fight for control of the land began against the original Canaanite nations. Since the Jewish people were fulfilling the command of God by subduing the nations of Canaan, they were promised miraculous victories against the powerful Canaanite nations. All went well until the battle of Ai, during which the young Jewish army suffered casualties - thirty-six in total! (Yehoshua 7:5; the Talmud (Baba Basra 121b) says that actually only one person died, but that he was the equivalent of the majority of the Sanhedrin, which is equal to thirty-six, just like the majority of one’s life is considered to be thirty-six years (Baba Basra 155b, Rashbam). Incidentally, the name of the person who was killed in the battle was Yair ben Menashe, whose name means "will be enlightened." Menashe was the same name Yosef gave to his son in Egypt, and consists the same letters as the word "shmonah," which means "eight," and "hashemen," which means "the oil." Yair ben Menashe was the ancestor of Yishai, the father of Dovid HaMelech and source of Moshiach.) What was the cause of the devastating loss? A man by the name of Achan ben Karmi had taken spoils of war from Yericho, something forbidden by Yehoshua. It was this violation that interfered with Divine assistance in the battle against Ai.

Perhaps this is why God approached Adam with the question, "Aiyeka?". It was as if He was saying, "Did you take that which did not belong to you but belonged to Me?" Perhaps this is also why the Talmud states that "the property of the righteous is more valuable to them than their own bodies" (Chullin 91a; This is in the chapter called "Gid HaNashe," and on the page where the Talmud interprets Yosef’s words to mean, "Slaughter the animal in front of his brothers and remove the gid hanashe," the reference in which there is an allusion to Chanukah. Also on this page is the discussion of how Ya’akov went back for the small jars, for which he merited the miracle of the small jar of oil at Chanukah time (see the chapter titled, Ya’akov Avinu).) - because they view themselves as guardians of the Holy One’s property.

It is this perspective that is the source of mesiros nefesh - self-sacrifice, which is what Chanukah is all about. To sacrifice one’s self for one’s own benefit is not heroic. But, to endanger one’s self for a higher cause, specifically for the Higher Cause, is the highest, the most noble form of self-expression. It is also something made possible only by the belief that no will matters but His; no property is anyone’s but His.

Such form of self-sacrifice was inspired by Yosef and exemplified by his brother Reuvain (the root of whose name means "see"). The midrash explains the following verse from Shir HaShirim in an obscure way:

The mandrakes have released their scent, and at our doorsteps are to be found delicacies. Shir HaShirim 7:15
The mandrakes ... This refers to Reuvain; have released their scent... This alludes to when he saved Yosef from being killed by his brothers; at our doorsteps are to be found delicacies ... This refers to Chanukah. Ateres Z’kainim; Midrash Pliah

The mandrakes referred to by the midrash are the ones Reuvain collected from the field for his mother, Leah. (Bereishis 30:14) According to Rashi, Reuvain specifically picked these flowers, because they were ownerless, growing wild. According to the Talmud, they were also supposed to be instrumental in producing another tribe.
Nevertheless, upon request, Leah gave them to her sister Rachel, proving, according to the midrash, that Leah accepted Rachel as being the main mother of the tribes. This was a tremendous act of self-sacrifice by a woman whose name totals thirty-six, and who died at the age of forty-five (mispar katan: nine).

But the mesiros nefesh didn’t end there. According to the midrash, why was Reuvain named as he was?

Leah became pregnant and gave birth to a son. She named him Reuvain ... Bereishis 29:32
She said, ‘See the difference between my son and the son (Eisav) of my father-in-law (Yitzchak) who sold his birthright to Ya’akov. This one (Reuvain) did not sell his birthright to Yosef, and yet did not complain [when Yosef took it from him]. And not only did he not complain, but he even wanted to take him out from the pit!’ - Rashi

The difference between Eisav and Reuvain, among other things, was that Reuvain understood that the birthright was not his to sell. Nor were the dudaim (mandrakes) his to sell. The earth and its fullness is God’s, (Tehillin 24:1) and therefore, it is He who decides who has the firstborn rights, and who truly owns the mandrakes.
We are merely the guardians of this world, allowed the privilege of benefiting from its fullness.

Before the light of creation was hidden, one could never have doubted this or ever become confused about it. This is why the light had to be hidden, for had it remained revealed, free will would have been impossible. It is hidden, but not completely, for it is meant to be revealed through the actions of man, through a nation created to reflect that light.

When a person integrates this understanding, regenerated and symbolized by the thirty-six lights of Chanukah, one enters a realm beyond the ordinary, deceptive world of daily life. One enters the world of miracles, because it is the world of mesiros nefesh:

Rav Papa asked Abaye, ‘What was unique about the previous generation for whom miracles occurred, while for us they don’t?’ ... He answered him, ‘They were self-sacrificing for the holiness of the Name.’ Brochos 20a
The essence of such self-sacrifice is knowing that there is more to life than meets the eye. It is in knowing that there is a "hand" above that moves things, people, events, world history towards an ultimate goal - the period of Moshiach. It is in knowing that one who usurps the will of God becomes a pawn in His master plan, not a forger of it. And finally, it is in knowing that there is no way to fulfill personal potential other than in making His will your own, by recognizing that His will is all that counts and that everything belongs to Him.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:58 am


haha I have more.

Rabbi Raymond A. Zwerin @ americanet.com/Sinai/resources/sermons/Zwerin_YKKN02.html
The number has its own mystery. The Talmud says that at the very beginning of creation, God made a certain type of light that was so penetrating, so powerful, that it was only allowed to last for only 36 hours ... after which God took it away and hid it for sometime in the future. God replaced it with a weaker, merely physical aspect of that light. Adam was given a brief glimpse of that primordial light and with it was able to see from one end of the world to the other and from the beginning of time to the end of time.

So, according to the Zohar, that light was the light of total understanding. The Talmud teaches that anytime the word "light" is used in Torah or in a Rabbinic text it always means knowledge and wisdom and understanding.

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The question that this mystical account always raises in my mind is why are such people needed to keep the world aright? Can not the world maintain its balance out of the amalgam of seven billion people, the vast majority of whom are good? Certainly, there are exquisite souls among the faithful of all religions who exude goodness and righteousness in their daily deeds.

In most religions such people are called saints or pious ones or and they are viewed as being holy -- recognized as unique and set apart. In the Catholic church such people are honored for their service to the community and for the miraculous deeds they performed or for the visions they experienced. In eastern religions, there are extraordinary teachers -- swamis, gurus, bahgwans -- who by their self-discipline and their instruction have a profound influence on their disciples. Around the world, there are shamans and healers -- medicine men and women -- pastors, priests, thinkers, scholars, survivors, care-givers, rescuers, counselors, donors of time, builders of community, charitable money people, donors of body parts even ... selfless souls who plunge into swirling rivers, dart into burning buildings, pilot choppers and tugs under the worst of circumstances -- do such awesome and fearless things as to leave us all agape.

...

The story is told about a monastery on a mountain high above a small town in a rural part of Italy. The monks were hard working souls who cultivated grapes and fruits of all sorts -- who ate little and slept little and meditated the requisite nine times a day. For years, the fruits of their labors sustained their venture. They sold their grapes and fruits and used the income to plant anew and to maintain themselves and their facility. But over a short period of time, conditions changed. Young monks entered the monastery, the elders took sick or passed away. Indolence, indecision, and changing leadership eroded confidence. Arguments and insults drove wedges between the brothers. Contention replaced cooperation -- and soon the monastery was in deep trouble. Some monks left; others stayed off by themselves ... isolated and solitary. Work was done poorly now, if at all, and not in a timely fashion.

What to do? The abbot fearing that the monastery might be shut down and the land sold, called upon an old friend, a rabbi from the nearby township, for advice. The rabbi came to the monastery to visit. After several days of observing and noting and investigating, the rabbi asked the abbot if he could speak to all of the monks together. "My dear friends," he began, "you are indeed in a perilous situation. There is little income. I see that you are all demoralized. I can only say that you may indeed have to close down this lovely place and go elsewhere. There is one thing that I do know, however. In a vision I was given a very clear and distinct message. I was told that one of you is the messiah!"

A gasp and then a hush fell over the assembled. A cool chill of heightened awareness spread from monk to monk as eyes darted hither and yon in search of who the special one might be. Could it be the abbot? But he had been here for decades and under his watch the place had fallen apart. Yet, he had called upon the rabbi for advice, so ... perhaps?! Could it possibly be the newest monk who came here from a monastery in Perugia, or perhaps it’s the wine maker, or the novice, or the silent monk who makes the soup on Tuesdays and Fridays?

Who could tell; who could say? To tell the truth, though, confronted by a quandary of immense proportions, there was a certain transformative excitement about it all. One of us is the messiah, but which? Yet if it is one of us, then we must change our approach to one another ... for who would ever want to insult or deride or discount the messiah? Immediately, the brothers began to speak in kind terms to one another. Respect, even honor was bestowed. Sharing and helping and taking turns became commonplace. Smiles erased the frowns of yesterday. The gardens and fields were now filled with tillers and sowers, who now worked with diligence as they pondered. Even the oft bland foods seemed somehow tastier. There was humming even singing as the work hours flew by, and the prayers took on a vital rhythm not previously experienced.

Within a season, the crops returned to full vigor, and surprisingly, word of a new spirit in the monastery filtered down to the townspeople. A few of them made their way up the winding road to see for themselves. Their report brought more visitors and soon dozens of people were winding their way up the hill to see for themselves and, while there, to buy a jar of preserves and a bottle or two of wine ... and some of those special candles and flowers ... oh, yes, and that painting ... and this finely woven material. Before long, the monastery was a thriving concern -- far different from the depressed atmosphere that prevailed only a short time previous.

The moral of the tale is obvious to us ... if not to the monks themselves. Indeed, no monk at that monastery was the messiah, but when each was treated as such by the others, the community flourished.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:10 am


I see a connection between Mazikeen and the tzaddikim; Adam.

Rabbi Zwerin mentions Adam is shown a bright light by God. Before Adam had Eve for a wife, he had Lilith. Lilith is considered somewhat evil, because she refused to lay underneath Adam during certain activities. When they were seperated Lilith had some babies with Satan I think. Adam had a lot of babies too. Can't remember who with. But the Mazikeen were his children. I'll look this up, because I notice I seem to twist the 'facts' here a little. But it's all very very interesting.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:09 pm


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I see a connection between Mazikeen and the tzaddikim; Adam.

Rabbi Zwerin mentions Adam is shown a bright light by God. Before Adam had Eve for a wife, he had Lilith. Lilith is considered somewhat evil, because she refused to lay underneath Adam during certain activities. When they were seperated Lilith had some babies with Satan I think. Adam had a lot of babies too. Can't remember who with. But the Mazikeen were his children. I'll look this up, because I notice I seem to twist the 'facts' here a little. But it's all very very interesting.


As for the numerical connection, hun.... The jews have always looked for connections between numbers and God, since before they were jews. That's why they are stereotyped as good mathmeticians. Unfortately, if you look at any set of numbers long enough, you'll think that a pattern is hidden. 36 divided by 3 is 12 = the number of apostles. 12 has long been held as a set number because there are 12 hours in a day, 12 months in a year.. divided 12 by two and you get 6, which multiplied types 10 is 60, which was the old Hebrew number of weeks in the year, according to the flood-stages of the rivers in the Fertile Cresent.

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