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daviderentxun Vice Captain
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 Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:50 pm
I've seen I'm having a friend that has been affecting my relationship with God in a negative way, and since I don't want this, I prayed to God. I now know He wants me to end that friendship. I know it's hard, really hard, but I also know that I need to do it in order to honor God.
I just want to ask you:
How should I end this friendship? Like... what to say, when, how, and all that kind of stuff.
EDIT: I've been praying for an opportunity to finish it ever since I wrote this. On August 1st, God heard my prayers, and gave me enough strength and wisdom to choose the correct words and finish the friendship without further damage. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:39 pm
Can you share more about the relationship between you and your friend and what they are doing to affect your relationship with God?
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Beloved Conversationalist
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daviderentxun Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:57 am
Well, I've known him for a long time now, even before I was a Christian. The thing is that more and more he's inducing me into things that clearly go against God's will, grave sins that for motive of conscience I won't state. The only thing I can say is that he is strongly against God, strongly against morality: One of those "free-thinkers" who think they are free to do whatever they want.
I've tried a lot to influence him and bring him to the knowledge of Christ, but he rejects Him. By trying to induce me into bad stuff, including denying God, he's really dangerous for my spiritual life. He doesn't want anything with God, and he wants me to sin against Him, while God tells me to terminate this friendship... and here's where I am.
I need to know the best way to terminate this friendship, because I've seen his attacks are getting each time worse both against me and God.
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:31 pm
Is he against all morality, or only certain perceptions of morality? If the former, then break it off since the person is likely dangerous anyways. If the latter, then try to see it from his point of view: Are you being too overbearing? Some people can't be pushed or pulled into believing in a faith. I myself turned away from any interest in learning about YHWH and Yeshua for a long time because of my overbearing grandparents, and I found different religion because of it (I have no regrets on that, of course). After all, the last thing you want to do is sour your friends chance to know YHWH.
Put the knowledge out there and lead by example. The best way to show people the glory of your god is to emulate the loving nature of Him.
As for your relationship with YHWH, once you have one the only person who can threaten it is yourself. It isn't fair to blame anyone but yourself if you fall, because keeping faith conscious decision that you yourself, as a Christian, choose to make. No one else can touch your faith unless you want them to.
If your friend is actually knowingly trying to harm you spiritually then by all means let him know. If he persists, then turn your back on him and leave it to your god to sort out. Trust in YHWH; that is what He is there for.
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daviderentxun Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:26 pm
Yes, he is against all morality. That is why I want to break it off. He hasn't even called me or visited me once after last time he was inducing me into sinning. Then again, you say: "It isn't fair to blame anyone but yourself if you fall, because keeping faith conscious decision that you yourself, as a Christian, choose to make," which in a sense is true, but God also says that it would be better for those who try to make others stumble to throw themselves to a river and drown (Matthew 18:6). And no... I'm not pushing my faith onto Him: I was defending it. In fact, after I was defending it at the beginning of this year on Gaia, somebody said in a PM: Quote: It seems as if I may have misjudged you. I took you for one of the all too common "Crusaders of Conversion" who are trying to preach the word of "Christ" to the rest of us, force-feeding if I may say, with no explanation as to why other than "We're right, your wrong". I'm glad to have the knowledge that not all who would consider themselves "devout christians" are such Crusaders. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . there was more I had to say, but my train of thought seems to have de-railed. In short, I will terminate this friendship, and I'll be praying for God to help me keep loyal to Him on this, as well as to give me strength and courage to do so.
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:10 pm
Shatari Is he against all morality, or only certain perceptions of morality? If the former, then break it off since the person is likely dangerous anyways. If the latter, then try to see it from his point of view: Are you being too overbearing? Some people can't be pushed or pulled into believing in a faith. I myself turned away from any interest in learning about YHWH and Yeshua for a long time because of my overbearing grandparents, and I found different religion because of it (I have no regrets on that, of course). After all, the last thing you want to do is sour your friends chance to know YHWH. Put the knowledge out there and lead by example. The best way to show people the glory of your god is to emulate the loving nature of Him. As for your relationship with YHWH, once you have one the only person who can threaten it is yourself. It isn't fair to blame anyone but yourself if you fall, because keeping faith conscious decision that you yourself, as a Christian, choose to make. No one else can touch your faith unless you want them to. If your friend is actually knowingly trying to harm you spiritually then by all means let him know. If he persists, then turn your back on him and leave it to your god to sort out. Trust in YHWH; that is what He is there for. Good GOD!!! you can actually give good chrstian advice!?!?!?!?!!? gonk
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:20 am
The Pursuer Then again, you say: "It isn't fair to blame anyone but yourself if you fall, because keeping faith conscious decision that you yourself, as a Christian, choose to make," which in a sense is true, but God also says that it would be better for those who try to make others stumble to throw themselves to a river and drown (Matthew 18:6). I can agree with that sentiment, although sadly most tempters don't afford us that sort of pleasantry. blaugh Thus, we have to look for strength from within. The Pursuer In short, I will terminate this friendship, and I'll be praying for God to help me keep loyal to Him on this, as well as to give me strength and courage to do so. As long as you keep up that sort of mind frame, you shouldn't have too much to worry about. ^.^ NewFoundLight Good GOD!!! you can actually give good chrstian advice!?!?!?!?!!? gonk It's all the Role-playing games I play; I can assume a perspective even if I don't share it. ninja I'm half-heartedly thinking about becoming a Methodist preacher. While I'm not a Christian, my religion has a lot of the core beliefs (benefit your fellow man; don't be a jerk; treat people as they would like to be treated; etc), and I like helping people find peace with themselves. ^.^
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:29 am
Shatari NewFoundLight Good GOD!!! you can actually give good chrstian advice!?!?!?!?!!? gonk It's all the Role-playing games I play; I can assume a perspective even if I don't share it. ninja I'm half-heartedly thinking about becoming a Methodist preacher. While I'm not a Christian, my religion has a lot of the core beliefs (benefit your fellow man; don't be a jerk; treat people as they would like to be treated; etc), and I like helping people find peace with themselves. ^.^ Quote: Yes, but also one has to be close to GOD in order to be able to lets say preach, I'm not saying your giving bad advice but, rather it requires more than good advice to become a preacher.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:34 pm
NewFoundLight Yes, but also one has to be close to GOD in order to be able to lets say preach, I'm not saying your giving bad advice but, rather it requires more than good advice to become a preacher. I disagree; one need not be close to YHWH to lead others to Him. And good advice isn't really a factor, it's being able to spread the message that Yeshua brought. Personal conviction is optional; it's the conviction of those who wish to believe that matters. 3nodding To use a cliché: Those who can't do, teach.
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:11 am
Shatari NewFoundLight Yes, but also one has to be close to GOD in order to be able to lets say preach, I'm not saying your giving bad advice but, rather it requires more than good advice to become a preacher. I disagree; one need not be close to YHWH to lead others to Him. And good advice isn't really a factor, it's being able to spread the message that Yeshua brought. Personal conviction is optional; it's the conviction of those who wish to believe that matters. 3nodding To use a cliché: Those who can't do, teach. I'm sorry I'm a little condused by what you said could you please elaborate more 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:07 pm
NewFoundLight Shatari NewFoundLight Yes, but also one has to be close to GOD in order to be able to lets say preach, I'm not saying your giving bad advice but, rather it requires more than good advice to become a preacher. I disagree; one need not be close to YHWH to lead others to Him. And good advice isn't really a factor, it's being able to spread the message that Yeshua brought. Personal conviction is optional; it's the conviction of those who wish to believe that matters. 3nodding To use a cliché: Those who can't do, teach. I'm sorry I'm a little condused by what you said could you please elaborate more 3nodding On what part?
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