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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:30 pm
Ya know.. I think it would be much more satisfactory if our guild found a nice scale factor. -sigh- Multiple reasons for this thought. A. We are mixing universes into a mush that should be slightly coherant B. Weapons! C. Mech size/capabilities.
The weapons thing is like this.
My Aeries based Raven 3 is a high speed mobile suit.. however... nearly twice as big as Ermor's Comando mehc, and I am seriously rethinking my mech. NOt to mention I have been following the weapons scale from Gundam Universal century, so my Raven has a 100mm gatlin gun. 100m being the machine gun size for the RX-79(G) gundams from 8th MS team. And those guns are reasonably small while the gatlin cannon is rather large. The basic Zaku gun is 120mm for a machine gun. This is large, granted, but some people are putting things like 15mm on their mechs, which is half useless, it is like using an assault rifle against a mech. (15mm is .60 caliber) I think we need to find a happy medium!! Because I have like... an auto cannon and others have a good range.. while some have a pea shooter. -sigh-
The range is too drastic and I think needs adjusting. Member input?
Oh and here is a useful equation for those who are americans and want to think about the size of the shell in Caliber.
There is 25mm in an inch.
To change caliber to milimeter you must simply multiple the caliber by 25. Caliber, if everyone will note, has a period in front of it.
.50 caliber is .5 inches.
And to change Milimeter to caliber, you have to divide the current measure of milimeters by 25.
So. Caliber to milimeter.
Caliber x 25
Milimeter to Caliber.
Milimeters / 25
Milimeter is always used after .99 caliber because anything over it starts to look like this. 1.00 caliber
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:32 am
Good point. I'll brainstorm this weekend and contribute some ideas. It'd be cool to make this our world instead of a composite of everything.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:25 am
Well I fixed up my raven 3 to be more suitable, and here is some other stuff that I have suggestion wise. Andreis I have had a thought here on basic projectile shell size.
I am going to stick to the measurement of milimeters here. Caliber (inches) will be in parenthases.
17mm(.68) and Under - Anti Personelle (People, unarmoured vehicles)
18-37.5mm (.72-1.50) - Anti-Vehicle/Light Anti-Armour (Jeeps, trucks, tanks, small Bipedal or Quadrepedal armours.)
38mm-50mm (1.52-2.00) - Light Anti-Heavy Armour (Tanks, Heavy Tanks, Small Bi-ped and Multiped Armours, Medium Biped and multiped Armours, Light Hover armours.)
51mm-75mm (2.04-3.00) - Anti-Heavy Armour (Heavy Tanks, All Bipedal and Multipedal Armours*, Light and Medium Hover armours.) *With exception towards the extraordianarilly sized armours.
76mm-100mm (3.04-4.00) - Support/Small Artillery
101mm-150mm (4.02-6.00) - Heavy Weapons/Artillery
151 and up (6.04) - To hell if I know why somone would need something bigger than a 6 inch shell! Keep in mind that this is for raw projectiles and that I assuming that these are not necessarily depleted uranium, but are in between lead and D.U. Maybe we should tone down the use of D.U. To live up to the idea that is i actually BAD. It is dense, yes, and even though it is no longer radioactive, it will kill people who any formidable amount of dust like on a swiss cheesed tank. We could always think up our own new material.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:30 pm
New tech you say?
Buwahahahahahahahahahaha.................. er excuse me.........
How about an reusable drop pod. I know its been done before, but we need a hot drop capabilility.
What I propse is an Iridium Drop Sphere w/ psudo-jets for control. By using Iridium we make sure that we survive, by not being vulnuable. the bottom half of it is re-enforced titanium, with a heavy duty cooling system, all covered in a foot of Iridum (a very dence and heavy material). The Irodum would preform two roles, 1) it would stop the pod from fliping during entry and 2) It would act as a super armor.
The upper half would be coolant and fuel storage. Fuel! you ask why fuel is needed on a drop pod. The fuel is acctually compressed CO2, is is use to make minor course adjustments whle in space and the first few layers of Atmo. Also contained in the top portion is the brakeing system.
The brakeing system includes the following: 1st stage. metal panel deployed at 80,000 feet 2nd stage. 6 heavy duty high altitude parachutes deploted at 50,000 feet, three are connected to the pod, three are conected to the metal Air brake 3rd stage. top of pod is ejected at 30,000 feet, exposing a latice work frame structure. More parachutes deploy at 28,000 feet, Mech is free to fire at airborne enemies. 4th stage. 10,000 feet lattice work retracts into Iriduim shell, no parachute untill 8,000 feet. 5th stage. 4,000 feet Irdium shell decouples from mech and falls to ground. The now free mech can manuver (if aplicable). Pack attached to mech deploys 3 more parachutes (1 more for every 20 tons over 100 tons) 6th stage. by this time the shell will have hit the ground causing a heavy concusive blast, this blast will give the mechs a bit of hang time, while flattening anythin on the ground within 100 yards of impact. Parachutes disengage at pilots discretion.
7th stage. a** kicking time, mission succedes, etc, etc, etc.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:08 pm
Well, its been brought to mi attention that Iridium is VERY RARE. So it is now out of the Equation.
In the same converation I found out that Tugston and Carbon have rediculusly high melting temperatures. So I kow propose a Tunston Carbide matrix to replace the Iriduim on the drop pod.
Now I pose a question.
Do we have anti-grav technology?
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:59 am
Good suggestion, however we have to think about this as well. Expense. The MMA IS an army with some high tech equipment, but we are basically building a large space shuttle without engines. For EACH Mech... The biggest problem with Tungsten is that it is not very strong. Re-entry is about 3500 degrees. Lower than I thought it was originally. The shuttle heat shielding is a ceramic composite material so we might think about a carbon, ceramic composite. well I have to go for now. I will add more later.
Oh and Tungsten glows with.. I think it is current or maybe heat. It is what is used in lightbulb filament.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:02 pm
Andreis Good suggestion, however we have to think about this as well. Expense. The MMA IS an army with some high tech equipment, but we are basically building a large space shuttle without engines. For EACH Mech... The biggest problem with Tungsten is that it is not very strong. Re-entry is about 3500 degrees. Lower than I thought it was originally. The shuttle heat shielding is a ceramic composite material so we might think about a carbon, ceramic composite. well I have to go for now. I will add more later. Oh and Tungsten glows with.. I think it is current or maybe heat. It is what is used in lightbulb filament. For expence be glad I didn't stick with Iridium. Tungston and Carbon are common, inexpensive elements that have a high heat tolerence. Most other elements would vaporize during re-entry. The carbon, ceramic composite is what the shuttle uses. So I added Tungston to the mix to create a Tungston Carbide plating for the lowwer half of the pod. What the Tungston does, is cook off during re-entry (It's a short lived reaction because of oxygen). With it cooking off, a Carbon slag is also removed causing uneven chunks to fly off in the upper atmoshere causing a ******** in the enemies' targeting and FCS systems of any ground based intercepters like missles or lasers.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:11 pm
Hm. Well I mean it seems interesting enough, so keep the idea here and we'll see were it goes.
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