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A Different Light

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:54 pm


Alright, I've been thinking this forum needs another discussion topic. Some new blood, sort of. I had two ideas, and I decided this was a better one.

I'm just wondering what you Christians think about the topic of evolution. I don't you just barging in here and say "evolton is al rong!!!!!" Not that you will, I'm just saying so in case. I want to know why you agree or don't with evolution. Biblical verses are game, although I prefer your veiws or scientific veiws, not just the bible's.

I'm currently reading a book called "The Blind Watchmaker." It is about proving evolution. the author hasn't gotten to the point yet and I'm in the beginning of the second chapter. I'll tell you more about it when I farther in.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:02 pm


The order of creation in the bible eerily fits evolution.

I'm personally of the belief that evolution was guided by God. BUT THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS. gonk

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Imotoku

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:17 pm


I have already debated you about this over pm's for a long time. We would just be saying the same things.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:36 pm


Personally, it doesn't matter to me. If it happened literally, great. If it was evolution, okay. Although I tend to lean more towards the literal, because the way man is now makes more sense of Adam and Eve were real and the things in the Garden happened the way they were told.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:51 pm


I'm a big believer in intelligent design... you know, that God basically was smart enough to realize that we would need to adapt to our surroundings so created us with the ability to do so.

But I agree it should not be taught in schools....
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:08 pm


I.D.----->

Belief in 7-day creationism is biblically (at best) extremely shakey. Plus, while the Bible does say that God created everything, it fails to say how he created everything. So, I choose to believe in the prevailing scientific theory.

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A Different Light

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:50 pm


This is not as much of debate as I would have hoped... Oh well. I'm perfectly open to the idea that some kind of deity (spelling?) guided evolution. I don't think that's what happened, but I'm open to the idea.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:45 pm


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I.D.----->

Belief in 7-day creationism is biblically (at best) extremely shakey. Plus, while the Bible does say that God created everything, it fails to say how he created everything. So, I choose to believe in the prevailing scientific theory.


Remember, that the Bible didn't start to get recorded until Abraham, I believe... who came MUCH later... and he only wrote what he was told (I'm assuming) so maybe he wasn't told by God so many details and such...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:32 pm


Dr. Kool
This is not as much of debate as I would have hoped... Oh well. I'm perfectly open to the idea that some kind of deity (spelling?) guided evolution. I don't think that's what happened, but I'm open to the idea.


A lot of people think science disproves God but I see it just the oppisite- science proves God. I just don't think God would have created us without the ability to adapt and live in our surroundings- he knows better than that.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:46 pm


i believe in intelligent design too but i DO think it should be tough in school along side evolution after all u dont have to believe it was Jesus (thought it WAS) it could have been an alien someone would argue, but the idea that some large thing made us is scienctific u know. Also i dont think the part about us coming from monkeys is true or whatever u call those big foot looking things. I mean God clearing says he made man from dirt and woman from man, there was no period of years our time or his where we ran around earth being savages before becoming human.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:37 pm


Digi_Dream_Gurl
i believe in intelligent design too but i DO think it should be tough in school along side evolution after all u dont have to believe it was Jesus (thought it WAS) it could have been an alien someone would argue, but the idea that some large thing made us is scienctific u know. Also i dont think the part about us coming from monkeys is true or whatever u call those big foot looking things. I mean God clearing says he made man from dirt and woman from man, there was no period of years our time or his where we ran around earth being savages before becoming human.


The problem is we have a seperation between church and state, and if were and athiest, I wouldn't want someone telling me a higher being did this, which I didn't believe in. Inversly, I don't like teachers who make eveolution out so that its pureply no God at all. Either one is wrong and violates seperation of church and state.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:04 pm


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i believe in intelligent design too but i DO think it should be tough in school along side evolution after all u dont have to believe it was Jesus (thought it WAS) it could have been an alien someone would argue, but the idea that some large thing made us is scienctific u know. Also i dont think the part about us coming from monkeys is true or whatever u call those big foot looking things. I mean God clearing says he made man from dirt and woman from man, there was no period of years our time or his where we ran around earth being savages before becoming human.


Intelligent design is not a science. There is no scientific evidence to support it, therefore it cannot be taught in science classes. There is no evidence of a higher being, and no evidence contradicting a higher being. Religion is a separate entity from science.

Sidenote: If you don't believe we evolved from apes, then what do you believe in?

(off topic: I love your outfit, Liz.)

Captain_Theoretical


Allythea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:46 pm


http://creationworldview.org

This is a site that promotes intelligent design and the creationist view. Some really interesting stuff. smile
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:06 am


Captain_Theoretical
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i believe in intelligent design too but i DO think it should be tough in school along side evolution after all u dont have to believe it was Jesus (thought it WAS) it could have been an alien someone would argue, but the idea that some large thing made us is scienctific u know. Also i dont think the part about us coming from monkeys is true or whatever u call those big foot looking things. I mean God clearing says he made man from dirt and woman from man, there was no period of years our time or his where we ran around earth being savages before becoming human.


Intelligent design is not a science. There is no scientific evidence to support it, therefore it cannot be taught in science classes. There is no evidence of a higher being, and no evidence contradicting a higher being. Religion is a separate entity from science.

Sidenote: If you don't believe we evolved from apes, then what do you believe in?

(off topic: I love your outfit, Liz.)
I think she made it pretty clear what she believed. We came from dirt 'cause God said so. 3nodding There's evidence for us evolving from apes. We don't share any genetic similarities with dirt. We're almost exacctly like bananas, but not dirt. It would make more sense if we created from bananas.

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Captain_Theoretical

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:32 am


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I think she made it pretty clear what she believed. We came from dirt 'cause God said so. There's evidence for us evolving from apes. We don't share any genetic similarities with dirt. We're almost exacctly like bananas, but not dirt. It would make more sense if we created from bananas.


What I meant was that we're clearly not literally made of dirt, and she said she believed in intelligent design (evolution guided by God, if I'm not horribly mistaken) and then she said she didn't believe we evolved from apes. So, I was just wondering that if she believes in evolution but doesn't believe we evolved from apes then what does she believe we evolved from?
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